[Video] Marquez responds to Bradley, on his threat to pull out over drug testing

I tried talking JMM-Bradley. See page 2 or so. But the heavy accusations of Marquez roiding from posters that's been advocating Pac for years became to much bear. But, I believe Marquez is willing to take any/all tests regardless of agency. From reading other posters, it sounds like Arum is trying to throw wrenches in the plans. If that's the case, we should blame Arum, not Bradley or Marquez because they just want to take tests and fight. Gotcha. I gotta say, having multiple agencies involved is straight retarded, and shows just how much of a joke the whole thing is.

Slob Arum probably doesn't want to pay for any testing. He prob found out he can save 5 dollars using NSAC and thats the hold up

I can show you guys a video and articles of Ariza telling everyone how hard Pac had to work to RISE in weight against De La Hoya. Are you guys seriously trying to re-write history here? Pac is on tape in the Pac-DLH pre-fight videos talking about how hard he's working, how much he's eating just to make 145 against DLH, but you guys are telling me how it's his normal size. You guys take one idiotic theory, believe it, then jump to the next, believe that, then you look up one day and you guys have literally re-created historic events. I'm one tard that agrees with you on Pac JMM 4. It was an even playing field, no complaining. But you're not really talking JMM Bradley. It appears there's real issues there

Pac has not always been fast like he was in 08/09 with a high workrate while moving up in weight. Pac broke the WW punch stat record. Pac shattered his round by round fight stats as a WW than when he was in his early 20's as a strawweight or whatever he was. It's a FACT that Pac climbed weight classes while raising his stamina, getting older, stronger, etc. Shane Mosley fought Prime DLH, Winky Wright, Vargas, Mayora... you name them Shane's fought them. Only people that dropped Shane was Forrest, who was a HUGE welterweight and Pacquiao. And you're telling me Pac didn't get stronger? It's embarrassing that you're sitting here accussing Marquez of PED's, but not Pac in 08/09. It's the same thing. Again, I don't want to here schit about fight night weights because just because Victor Ortiz can weight 166 on fight night, doesn't mean he should be fighting as a SMW. it did raise, as it would for most people who are making a weightclass they dont belong in, like khan his style also changed through the years he definitely didn't peak at welterweight, that much is for sure, and LMFAO@ "FACT"

Even at 30 years old, you don't get faster, bigger, older, more powerful, all while increasing your cardio all at the same damn time. Sure, you can get bigger and older, but not faster. You can get faster, but not bigger. But you don't break WW round by round punch stat records while getting bigger and older dumbass. The man hit Margarito with 7 punches in less than a second. He threw a crazy 13-14 punch combo against Cotto in like 2-3 seconds. GTFOH with that fan boy logic b1tch. If you say Marquez is on PED's against Pac, then Pac was on PEDs from 08-09. period Again, don't come talking to me about Pac's previous fight night weights at welterweight it's when pacquiao started imploying the "hands-up and stand there take punches" sequences, because he needs his breaks, did this in all his welterweight fights except vs dela hoya also pacquiao definitely is not faster at welterweight, his speed was about the same, and with guys like margarito and clottey, combo's give the impression of more speed pacquiao's fight night weight has been 146-147 for a long long time, he went from 140 to 143, and still weighs in 146-147, fight night not a big leap there only now that he's getting softer and carrying more fat is he coming in alittle heavier

why is PED testing such a problem for TR fights? Because they haven't signed a no disclosure contract with a test agency. But I heard Schaefer complaining about it and sounding regretful (after Peterson Holt?), he thinks it's really the commission's job

they should just do testing like golden boy and when their fighters test positive hide the result lol. Or just do like they cann continue to do when TR holds fights in Texas and not have the fighters test.

Even at 30 years old, you don't get faster, bigger, older, more powerful, all while increasing your cardio all at the same damn time. Sure, you can get bigger and older, but not faster. You can get faster, but not bigger. But you don't break WW round by round punch stat records while getting bigger and older dumbass. The man hit Margarito with 7 punches in less than a second. He threw a crazy 13-14 punch combo against Cotto in like 2-3 seconds. GTFOH with that fan boy logic b1tch. If you say Marquez is on PED's against Pac, then Pac was on PEDs from 08-09. period Again, don't come talking to me about Pac's previous fight night weights Bro you are being irrational and fanatical here. Pacquiao has always been fast, always had high workrate, high stamina, good musculature. its in his genetics look at his brother Bobby Pacquiao is he on steroids too? http://www.fightwriter.com/sites/default/files/Bobby%20Pacquiao.jpg?1163397131 And Pac looked faster because he was fighting bigger slower guys! when he fought Marquez he looked slower, because Marquez has faster combos than Manny. And Pacman is slowing down now because of age, he is at the time when most fighters start slowing down, his style is a young mans style not good for longevity.

at this rate it might end up like pac-marquez 4 where bob told freddie it is too close to the fight now to start doing testing Yup, Arum probably knows JMM is on the sauce, and doesn't want to take a loss by canceling the fight or having JMM test positive and than it get called of after putting in millions in promotions and marketing fees. Roach actually wanted Pac to used testing before the third fight, and than his suspicions got even more serious in the fourth fight but Pacman said Ef it Im a warrior Ill fight whoever, sometimes that warrior mentality is too good for your own good, as Pacman tried everything and even hit Marquez with a kitchen sink and still couldn't drop him like he used too, while Marquez was dropping Pacman with ease like a sack of potatos.

why is PED testing such a problem for TR fights? they should just do testing like golden boy and when their fighters test positive hide the result lol.

What I'm saying is maybe Marquez is the first fighter that attempted to fight fire with fire against Pac. Maybe Marquez's PED's were better than Pac's :dunno: Pac played games for 3 1/2 years regarding testing. Marquez said fcuk asking for testing when you can get on the same thing Pac's taking. It's called Karma folks; especially when both passed post fight tests. Regarding putting on muscle mass, Pac did the same from 07 to 08. And don't talk to me about Pac's previous fight night weights This just shows you are unfair, you want to say pac put on muscle but don't want people to shut you down with proof that he was draining himself to make 130 Pac was always muscular and ripped and was known for his speed and stamina, he doesn't weigh more than 150 walking around. He ballooned to 145 at featherweight. Walks around at that weight so how the hell did he put on muscle? All he did was stop draining himself to make weight. Just like Floyd Pac was fighting at his natural walk around weight. They never balloon in weight, when Marquez fought Floyd he was bloated and eating like mad just to put on weight he was like 142-144 pounds soaking weight. He never had the genetics for muscularity, all of a sudden in the third fight he hires Memo and got huge, he outweight pacman and looked better than he did against Floyd he was like 153 on fight night while last time this guy couldn't even make 145 no matter how he tried to put on weight. Than he gets diced and hard in the fourth fight, they did this so his punches could be more fluid and not tight so the power would be more pronounced. at 39 years old when a mans testosterone is low. I do believe that JMM thought Pac was on the sauce so he felt why not use it too? Thats why he hired Memo, I think it was actually memo who convinced him to juice telling him everyone is doing it.

why is PED testing such a problem for TR fights?

Quote: Originally Posted by hectari Marquez is one of my favorites, but the dude at 39 put muscle on fast his genetics do not allow for him to do that no matter the training. plus why align your self with a known ped pusher chemist who even said he still cheats on video after testifying years ago? Marquez was never ripped or muscular like Pacman was. But I ain't made to me its Pacman's fault for not listening to Freddie Roach when he kept asking Pac to put drug testing in the contract starting in the third fight with Marquez. it takes one to know one,and this roid trt user knows Marquez is not natty. What I'm saying is maybe Marquez is the first fighter that attempted to fight fire with fire against Pac. Maybe Marquez's PED's were better than Pac's Pac played games for 3 1/2 years regarding testing. Marquez said fcuk asking for testing when you can get on the same thing Pac's taking. It's called Karma folks; especially when both passed post fight tests. Regarding putting on muscle mass, Pac did the same from 07 to 08. And don't talk to me about Pac's previous fight night weights Hey moron, was Pacquiao 40 fkin years old in 07-08? Didn't think that one thru did ya? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

I never claimed it was all his fault. I only said something about this is fishy. I can see why Bob would want to cause a delay, because the more the blood work is delayed, the better chances of the fight going on without getting flagged for a failed test before the fight even happens. Who put the idea in Bob's head I have no idea. I do know that Marquez initially refused to do VADA and said he would do USADA only. So bob said he would do it so NSAC oversees the testing. But that is obviously stalled and going at a snails pace/ at this rate it might end up like pac-marquez 4 where bob told freddie it is too close to the fight now to start doing testing

Let's say all of this is true. How is any of it Marquez's fault? He just wants to get tested and fight I never claimed it was all his fault. I only said something about this is fishy. I can see why Bob would want to cause a delay, because the more the blood work is delayed, the better chances of the fight going on without getting flagged for a failed test before the fight even happens. Who put the idea in Bob's head I have no idea. I do know that Marquez initially refused to do VADA and said he would do USADA only. So bob said he would do it so NSAC oversees the testing. But that is obviously stalled and going at a snails pace/

I guess he's trying to shoot down guys theories like yourself who thinks he's doping Good for him jmm is turning into a liar, this is the public facade, while behind the scenes he does his usual "yea, well, if you want me to test with vada then you can't rehydrate more than 10lbs" etc

And to be quite honest, Marquez doesn't need steroids for Bradley. I think Bradley probably beats him in a competitive bout, but Tim Bradley is no career ender here folks. I can see Marquez fighting fire with fire and taking PED's against Pac. Bradley just went life and death with Prod. JMM that fought Floyd is even competitive with Bradley. Bradley-JMM is a 52-48 type of fight. It's very close. JMM doesn't even need PED's here. Didn't JMM say, you can have testing if you agree to a rehydration clause? So maybe he thinks he doesn't need PEDs if Tim is 157 or below. I disagree, the guy that fought Casa, Katsidis and Juan Diaz gets beat easily by the LWW version Bradley IMO, unless Bradley has lost much off his least fight.

I guess he's trying to shoot down guys theories like yourself who thinks he's doping Good for him Marquez is one of my favorites, but the dude at 39 put muscle on fast his genetics do not allow for him to do that no matter the training. plus why align your self with a known ped pusher chemist who even said he still cheats on video after testifying years ago? Marquez was never ripped or muscular like Pacman was. But I ain't made to me its Pacman's fault for not listening to Freddie Roach when he kept asking Pac to put drug testing in the contract starting in the third fight with Marquez. it takes one to know one,and this roid trt user knows Marquez is not natty.

That is exactly what I am saying, they both should do it because they both were agreed upon. But Bob passing the responsibility on to NSAC of arrangement and oversight is only going to cause a delay in the testing, which we are already seeing. top Rank should have contacted the the Anti-Doping people directly and arranged it, but they didn't. Bob doesn't want to do that since if a result comes in positive, it's messy business keeping it quiet like GBP likes to. He'd rather have the commission cover it up, or have them decide to use lax testing cause it's in both the promoter's and commission's interest that big fights don't get canceled.

Marquez is probably on TRT which is legal in Nevada, he reminds me of Vitor Belfort who is taking TRT and had a similar physique transformation as Marquez. http://imguol.com/blogs/57/files/2013/05/vitor1.jpg trt doesnt make you look like that, that guy is on other steroids anyway, this is suprising, because heredia keeps harping on how him and marquez are strict on usada, and dont care for vada now marquez says he'll do whichever