Now Floyd is not Thomas Hearns, Ray Robinson nor Ray Leonard size.
Although Duran did and is smaller than Floyd.
But why aren't other WW's offer big challenges? People say that he should fight Martinez, Glovokin and even Andre Ward.
Why aren't Cotto, Pacquiao, Broner, Marquez and others asked to take on these much bigger men?
So my point is, Mayweather should be too big to fight the Cottos, Pacquiaos of the world.
lol @ that being flabby. You must be ripped. abs aren't going to beat Mayweather, sorry
He's a fcuking pro boxer going into his biggest fight yet, and he's sporting love handles. Are your eyes finally registering?
you have no idea what weight it was. he was looking ace in sparring.
lol everyone who? you and pac boy? roflll
He was eating tacos and throwing rocks for training. GTFO alt, people can use their eyes
http://assets.sbnation.com/assets/1847545/marquez_against_mayweather.jpg
So Marquez weighs in what he usually does on fight night but he was only bloated for Floyd lol ok
Normally he puts on all that water weight. This was no water weight, you could see the flab at the weighin. I guess everybody noticed except this alt
If Marquez was bloated for Floyd he was bloated for every fight before 2010
I don't get that logic. But don't sweat the logic, most people can use their eyes and see the flab
Well then it's all assumptions until he takes action and actually makes the weight; campaigns there. His words are as useless as Martinez's, it becomes a mockery, and I'm glad writers are sensible enough not to touch on the topic because it's really a circus act when the consensus is, Mayweather is a WW and Golovkin a MW.
So in your mind, Floyd is a SWW paper champ? Why didn't you say so earlier, why do I have to squeeze it out of you?
Again, I wouldn't expect a paper SWW champ to face GGG. We got no quarrel.
I wouldn't even think a genuine Jr MW should expected to fight a career MW but it would certainly be more plausible.
I don't expect Welterweights to fight career MW's though. I don't expect any Welterweight's who aren't full time Jr MW's to fight career MW's unless that career MW moves down in weight and into position.
As for the belt, I don't like people fighting for belts at Catchweight's. It's not new to the sport and something that's always going to happen but it's not something I like or have I ever liked.
That said, this fight isn't about the belt. This fight is bigger than the "belts" so I'll brush aside my distaste for the belts being on the line considering it's the best fight in Boxing.
It's really irrelevant because as soon as the fights over, Mayweather will head straight back down to his actual divison, Welterweight.
But you better believe he's packing his SWW belts with him lol.
I do find it interesting you see 2 classes of champs, regular champs, and guys that moved up from way below. To me a champ is a champ, unless it's a paper champ, no celebrity circuit. I understand stepping into a weightclass and requesting a CW, but these selective CWs are bullsh1t.
2x, soon unified, lineal, that's a whale of a paper champ.
Imagine that you will be repeating this exact same post to the exact same person at some point(s) or another.
He's got a giant bag filled with feathers, and he ain't afraid to throw them. I think we're fueled by the hope that maybe, jus' maybe...he'll get it. The scariest part is when your oblivious to the fact that he may be pulling your leg.
Well then it's all assumptions until he takes action and actually makes the weight; campaigns there. His words are as useless as Martinez's, it becomes a mockery, and I'm glad writers are sensible enough not to touch on the topic because it's really a circus act when the consensus is, Mayweather is a WW and Golovkin a MW.
Imagine that you will be repeating this exact same post to the exact same person at some point(s) or another.
He says he can make it no problem, will do it for Floyd, Canelo, even Cotto. Even as a MW he rehydrates lower than many SWWs, including Floyd's next opponent.
Well then it's all assumptions until he takes action and actually makes the weight; campaigns there. His words are as useless as Martinez's, it becomes a mockery, and I'm glad writers are sensible enough not to touch on the topic because it's really a circus act when the consensus is, Mayweather is a WW and Golovkin a MW.
Cool then I don't know why we're arguing. I wouldn't expect a paper SWW champ to face GGG, but a genuine champ, sure. There's plenty of people in this thread that would disagree with you on that (tho not as many as before may 2013), I'm addressing these guys.
Aren't you just a little troubled that this imposter champ might soon be holding the "lineal" belt at this weight, plus a bunch more? You just said even that won't qualify him as genuine champ (due to CW?), so it's an interesting situation, double so since unlike other hit and run paper champs, he's proven he'll hold onto it without intention to defend at the regulation weight
I wouldn't even think a genuine Jr MW should expected to fight a career MW but it would certainly be more plausible.
I don't expect Welterweights to fight career MW's though. I don't expect any Welterweight's who aren't full time Jr MW's to fight career MW's unless that career MW moves down in weight and into position.
As for the belt, I don't like people fighting for belts at Catchweight's. It's not new to the sport and something that's always going to happen but it's not something I like or have I ever liked.
That said, this fight isn't about the belt. This fight is bigger than the "belts" so I'll brush aside my distaste for the belts being on the line considering it's the best fight in Boxing.
It's really irrelevant because as soon as the fights over, Mayweather will head straight back down to his actual divison, Welterweight.
How does that relate to Golovkin being a career MW, and never having campaigned at 154 though?
He says he can make it no problem, will do it for Floyd, Canelo, even Cotto. Even as a MW he rehydrates lower than many SWWs, including Floyd's next opponent.
And yes like I have said multiple times Mayweather is nothing but a paper Champion at 154 as it stands.
Cool then I don't know why we're arguing. I wouldn't expect a paper SWW champ to face GGG, but a genuine champ, sure. There's plenty of people in this thread that would disagree with you on that (tho not as many as before may 2013), I'm addressing these guys.
Aren't you just a little troubled that this imposter champ might soon be holding the "lineal" belt at this weight, plus a bunch more? You just said even that won't qualify him as genuine champ (due to CW?), so it's an interesting situation, double so since unlike other hit and run paper champs, he's proven he'll hold onto it without intention to defend at the regulation weight
Cotto and DLH are the guys that Floyd beat for the SWW belts duh. Is he a SWW champ in your mind or not? If he is, too small is not a valid excuse, try something else
How does that relate to Golovkin being a career MW, and never having campaigned at 154 though?
So what does DLH and Cotto have to do with Golovkin, pertaining to this discussion. It's like you ran out of ammo as soon as you started this stupid argument, now your throwing feathers :lol1:
Cotto and DLH are the guys that Floyd beat for the SWW belts duh. Is he a SWW champ in your mind or not? If he is, too small is not a valid excuse, try something else
So what does DLH and Cotto have to do with Golovkin, pertaining to this discussion. It's like you ran out of ammo as soon as you started this stupid argument, now your throwing feathers :lol1:
:lol1: That's how I feel.
Do you understand about proportion? There is a reason why there's 1 weight class between welter and middle, and 3 between 109 and 122. Can you make a guess? Hint: see first sentence
So you consider Floyd a selective champ at SWW? There's less nice ways of putting that. But I get your gist, at 154 he's the champ of big money past prime guys that started at JWW or lower
Then the discussion on the matter is moot from there because the proportion is different.
And yes like I have said multiple times Mayweather is nothing but a paper Champion at 154 as it stands.
He fights there only for big money fights, nothing more.
His ideal weight is 147 hence the fact he always fights there unless there's a money fight available at 154 and when he does fight there the heaviest he'd weighed in is 151 lbs.
I don't except a person who fits this criteria to fight a 7 year career MW unless of course that career MW moves down and puts himself into position. Then I would expect it.
I feel like I've said this a few times before.
Do you understand about proportion? There is a reason why there's 1 weight class between welter and middle, and 3 between 109 and 122. Can you make a guess? Hint: see first sentence
So you consider Floyd a selective champ at SWW? There's less nice ways of putting that. But I get your gist, at 154 he's the champ of big money past prime guys that started at JWW or lower
So what does DLH and Cotto have to do with Golovkin, pertaining to this discussion. It's like you ran out of ammo as soon as you started this stupid argument, now your throwing feathers :lol1:
What are you talking about? I'm picking the exact differences in weight. As in, literally the exact differences. That's not reaching, that's just pointing out the exact differences in LB's as the Mayweather-Golovkin situation.
How many times? :lol1: 118 is not the eqivilent of 154. 115 is the eqivlent of 154. 115 is 7 lbs south of 122. 154 is 6 lbs south of 160.
147 - 13 lbs south of 160
109 (108) - 13 lbs south of 160
115 - 7 lbs south of 160
154 - 6 lbs south of 160
151, heaviest Floyd has weighed in. Eqilvent = 112
I consider Mayweather a Champion at 154. I consider him a very small Jr MW and a Welterweight who selectively fights at Jr MW, a total of 2 times in the last 6 years to be exact.
I don't expect someone who fits this criteria to fight a career MW unless of course that career MW moves down in weight and puts himself in position.
Do you understand about proportion? There is a reason why there's 1 weight class between welter and middle, and 3 between 109 and 122. Can you make a guess? Hint: see first sentence
So you consider Floyd a selective champ at SWW? There's less nice ways of putting that. But I get your gist, at 154 he's the champ of big money past prime guys that started at JWW or lower