Has The May-Ghost PPV Buys Been Released Yet?

I get labeled a Floyd fan by the worst posters here. They think that posters have to agree with them when they criticize Floyd. Check my posting history. They are just sick of me thinking I'm defending his out of the ring problems. Foh. I love it though. Even power can't help you when going against me. I turn the biggest Gorilla in the room into a rat ass cry baby in his own thread. No ducky, you get owned, get mad and make yourself look like a twat, then you get banned, come back a little bit meek, trying to play the changed character before finally reverting back to being a grade 'a' floydiot bumsniff - the fanbase universally regarded as the least knowledgeable and most racist in all sports, not just boxing. You may get better one day, but I doubt it.

I dunno why, Floyd has many just as able defenders, like Frank for example. I think he should focus on defending Haye, that's a much more lonely jobI get labeled a Floyd fan by the worst posters here. They think that posters have to agree with them when they criticize Floyd. Check my posting history. They are just sick of me thinking I'm defending his out of the ring problems. Foh. I love it though. Even power can't help you when going against me. I turn the biggest Gorilla in the room into a rat ass cry baby in his own thread.

The "official" numbers will most likely never be released. Any why not? It probably did poorly for "mayweather" standards, so they would rather put it behind them and move on to the superfight. May vs. Canelo will most likely make up for it.

Even more interesting is the prospect of sales for Floyd's fights post-Canelo. I don't see anybody else out there that Mayweather can do astronomical numbers with like he'll do with Canelo. There are a lot of respectable/decent fights out there that could perform well enough on PPV, but I don't see anybody else out there for Floyd post-Canelo that will put up the kind of massive numbers needed in order to justify those guarantees. It's a bit winded but this is what I said right after the FMJ/Guerrero fight, so I'm totally with you on the "how does he out do the last fight" line of thought. I mean, if ya'll think about it - what sense would it make for Floyd to fight Canelo NOW? Floyd has 5 fights left on his Showtime contract, and insists he's DONE after that. Why would Floyd make his second or third fight on that contract be the biggest fight he has out of the options he has. Look at it like this - Say he fights Canelo as his 3rd fight (of 6)... then what does he follow it up with as his last few fights, Devon Alexander?!?! Andre Berto?!? A rematch with Ortiz (not likely anyway)?!? No way. You don't make your last few fights fighting the likes of Devon or Berto or some sh*t. If your Floyd Mayweather Jr, you make your last few fights the biggest possible fights out there and minimize losing risk because it's the grand finale. He should fight the Devons and Bertos now - sit back and let Canelo/Cotto fight (and considers the winner) and Pacquiao vs whoever (and considers the winner). Again, it just doesn't make sense to fight Canelo (or Pac for that matter) until the end of his 6 fight contract. You don't fight your big fights at the beginning of the countdown and then take the perceivable easier fights AFTERWARDS... you wait until the end and make it the coup de grace. If you're Floyd Mayweather Jr (where $$$$ is the ultimate goal) if you make your last contracted fight (EVER) a high profit/high value fight, it still leaves room for possible air of a 7th fight vs whoever the highest demand/highest money thriller the fans mouth waterinly demand. They insist he's "retired for good", until a media/fan wishlist is so high that he gets back into that era that was created back in 09/10, where the profiteers insist that he can make 100-150 million dollars guaranteed (not including PPV $). Floyd says he's gonna finish up his 6 fights and then move on to other things in boxing, namely his Promotional Company, and will probably dabble in training (but IMO he wont find the glory in it he thinks he will because he knows the only thing he can control in this business is HIMSELF). The lure of BIG, easy money will bring him out if there's a huge clamour for it). But, you don't get all that if you end your fighting career fighting the likes of Devon Alexander or Andre fvcking Berto. :boxing: If this contract with Mayweather is to be a success, I think Showtime is going to have to rely on stacking the rest of his undercards as well as they're doing with this Alvarez bout, because Floyd vs. Khan, Alexander, or whoever just won't sell that well as a stand-alone fight. Since they bit the bullet and went with the big money fight with Canelo on Floyds second of a six fight guarantee, this is exactly why I think GBP added Matt/Garcia to the undercard. They want to ensure the biggest possible PPV buy rate and break records. I've already seen a lot of posters on here who said they weren't buying/weren't sure if they were buying the PPV now saying that the undercard sealed the deal for them. The casual fans were already buying this card regardless, the undercard helps convince the hardcore fans that use other methods to watch (or wait for replays) to buy the PPV, IMO.

I dunno why, Floyd has many just as able defenders, like Frank for example. I think he should focus on defending Haye, that's a much more lonely job Hahahahahaha^^^^^:lol1::haha::banana:

Yup Fan Dan said 850k or something like that. It did really poor.

There is no difference between them. The thread is about the official numbers not being released. Pac/Bradley numbers were never released by HBO. Neither were the numbers for Pac/Marquez IV, Pac/Mosley (on Showtime) or Pac/Marquez III. At least the Showtime executive said the number exceeded 1 million PPVs, although no official numbers were released. No official at Showtime or HBO has said anything about the numbers for Pacquaio's last four fights. It doesn't matter to the network what the numbers were in those other fights. Sure if numbers inflated their profit is lower, but they're not taking a loss either way, much less a huge loss. But it's not just the loss, more of a rude awakening to what they got themselves into with that 6 fight contract.

Don't bother asking him to post a link he just likes to come to Mayweathers rescue all the time.:kabong: I dunno why, Floyd has many just as able defenders, like Frank for example. I think he should focus on defending Haye, that's a much more lonely job

The big difference is, Pac Bradley cost the network nothing, the entire burden was Arum's. Here the network apparently had a break even point of 1.1m+ due to the huge Floyd guarantee. There is no difference between them. The thread is about the official numbers not being released. Pac/Bradley numbers were never released by HBO. Neither were the numbers for Pac/Marquez IV, Pac/Mosley (on Showtime) or Pac/Marquez III. At least the Showtime executive said the number exceeded 1 million PPVs, although no official numbers were released. No official at Showtime or HBO has said anything about the numbers for Pacquaio's last four fights.

go ahead and post a link Don't bother asking him to post a link he just likes to come to Mayweathers rescue all the time.:kabong:

Try it yourself, I bet your PC comes with a calculator. But you once you see the 2 numbers next to each other, 12 and 28, you can kinda eyeball it like I did, and you came out ahead by 3%I know why this thread was created. The TS knows why too. Hilarious. Oh, my bad. Band, SHO may have not profited the way that they wanted to, but I know for a fact that they didn't lose money.

You have calculated, and rounded off in a way that has never seen before, lmao! Try it yourself, I bet your PC comes with a calculator. But you once you see the 2 numbers next to each other, 12 and 28, you can kinda eyeball it like I did, and you came out ahead by 3%

If 12m is true, it's 43% of 28m, which was their annual boxing budget for 2012. So I actually rounded it down, it's even worse. If we were rounding to 5, the proper figure is 45% lolYou have calculated, and rounded off in a way that has never seen before, lmao!

40%, lmmfao! You can't google him and then post this, lmao! If 12m is true, it's 43% of 28m, which was their annual boxing budget for 2012. So I actually rounded it down, it's even worse. If we were rounding to 5, the proper figure is 45% lol

1. he's a lawyer 2. he may have lost 40% of their annual budget in one night, as his first major (very aggressive) move in the new position40%, lmmfao! You can't google him and then post this, lmao!

So Espinoza is a liar then. Ok. 1. he's a lawyer 2. he may have lost 40% of their annual budget in one night, as his first major (very aggressive) move in the new position

That's all Frank was asking about, a leak. 2 of the biggest name reporters leaked it.So Espinoza is a liar then. Ok.

It was on track to do 1.2m buys, but then 300,00 people heard Ruben Guerrero's interview, where he said that Robert Guerrero wasn't going to use the jab, and they all decided "Fuck that, these motherfuckers are crazy" I thought they were lying when they said Guerrero wasn't going to jab. I didn't think they'd actually be that stupid.

Come on nobody on either side has concrete evidence of there numbers both are spouting hearsay. That's all Frank was asking about, a leak. 2 of the biggest name reporters leaked it.

This is not how boxing works. I can guarantee you that had Floyd's numbers not even broke even, he would've been ****ted on by a leaked source. I didn't expect Floyd Guerrero to do big numbers as SHO imo didn't either, but I know that they expected the fight to do more than break even which i'm betting it did. SHO could be disappointed that they could've made a bigger profit, and they could even come out and say it. They didn't. Floyd right now can't make big money unless he fought a Canelo. He can't do that with PAc coming of an embarrasing ko loss, a Matthysse, a Broner, a Lara, a Trout. Right now Canelo is the only fighter who could create a big buzz in boxing and bring his own crowd. they were leaked to iole and rafeal. they are journalists. journalists have sources. that's how they got the info. yeah you go bet on that lol yeah they probably wanted to make more than negative 12 million dollars pac is still the 2nd biggest draw in boxing, why can't he do big numbers? oh cause you say so? well that settles it.