The Boogeyman gets taken out by one of the brothers aka Floyd or Broner next!

Khan, Garcia and Broner were expecting Peterson to take Matthysse out in a 12 round decision Matthysse destroyed Peterson Khan and Broner both want Garcia to beat Matthysse Matthysse is going to destroy Garcia Broner & Khan will stay away from 140 once Matthysse rules it, Although a small part of Khan will probaly be wanting to fight Lucas, Luckily Khan's management understand he has atleast 2 good years left in him and that shouldn't be ended early by Lucas. Why i'm mentioning this nobody Broner is that he's looking to cherry pick his way into the top level bracket of fighters.

Floyd would beat Matty fairly easily. I think Matty KO's Broner in a good fight.

floyd ud's him broner gets koed before he hits the ground

There are ways of explaining his every bad performance at 147 away but the bottom line is that he performed better at 140. What of Miguel Cotto who performs better at 147 but very averagely at 154? or Marcos Maidana who looks sluggish and undersized at '47? Not to labour the point but you just can't tell how a fighter adjusts to a weight class until you see it. Collazo's size was the main issue imo. Hatton couldn't physically bully his opponents at 147 like he could at 140 and Luis is a solid guy. Same with Senchenko who was more than able to drive Ricky back when he tried to impose himself. So you're saying that Cotto's jump from 140 to 147 was successful then. 154 is too much for Cotto. I will agree with you there but but Lucas' jump to 147 is equivalent to Cotto going to 147 not 154. Isn't that correct? I would say that Lucas would probably struggle at 154 though just like Cotto. Maidana did struggle against Alexander. That had more to do with his skills and style than weight imo. That's why he changed trainers and has been improving since then. I believe he has 3 straight knockouts since that fight (against lesser opposition than Alexander though I will admit but still solid fighters). I just want to clarify. I'm not opposed to a fight at 147 for Lucas prior to Floyd but I do think he'll be fine at the weight. It bothers me that he needs to win by KO though to impress you. No fighter can expect a KO every time out no matter how powerful they are. I think his power will carry up but that doesn't mean he will KO guys like Berto, Alexander or Bradley. None of them have been KO'd before. If Matthysse were to beat them comfortably, that would be good enough.

He clearly beat Abregu. Against Provodnikov, Bradley showed good movement when he boxed and he got hurt when he tried to stand toe to toe. Bradley has been hurt by power punchers at 140 (Kendall Holt) as well so I don't think that fight proves much. This is what I meant though. People will point to weight as the reason he struggled with Ruslan. The real reason is that one of Bradley's flaws got exposed again. He has a tendency to try and trade at times. Holt and Ruslan made him pay. There are ways of explaining his every bad performance at 147 away but the bottom line is that he performed better at 140. What of Miguel Cotto who performs better at 147 but very averagely at 154? or Marcos Maidana who looks sluggish and undersized at '47? Not to labour the point but you just can't tell how a fighter adjusts to a weight class until you see it. Let's look at Ricky Hatton. He struggled against southpaws especially those with hand speed. He struggled with Collazo for this reason and was knocked out by Manny. He was also knocked down by Magee earlier in his career. Weight is just a convenient excuse used. His struggles with southpaws is overlooked or undervalued. Collazo's size was the main issue imo. Hatton couldn't physically bully his opponents at 147 like he could at 140 and Luis is a solid guy. Same with Senchenko who was more than able to drive Ricky back when he tried to impose himself.

The come-forward was in reference to Berto although I realise it could have been read otherwise. But let's talk Matthysse-Thurman. If this fight was at 140, do you still think Thurman wins? (ignoring drainage) Imo Matthysse is going to be able to blast most guys out at 140 even if they're superior boxers. His power, like Malignaggi alluded to, is what makes him appear to many as a special fighter. Move him up a weight and potentially neutralise his power, he's not going to be that difficult to beat because his pure boxing skills aren't elite. The 140 version is the only proven version, he should prove himself at 147 before he's seen in the same light at that weight. Guerrero and Ortiz did nothing at WW or even LWW. How are these good wins? He didn't even beat Ortiz fairly. Berto and Thurman or even a lump like Zaveck... good physical tests against genuine WWs. If he can power through those guys like he has at 140 we'll know he's a force at the weight. Alexander won his title against an old Bailey (beaten no one good at 147) defended it against Lee Purdy. He has proven virtually nothing at the weight besides being able to hug Maidana (another 140 stepping up) out of a fight. you just stated if lucas beat berto it'll prove he's a force, so why doesn't it prove those two are a force it makes no sense at all. if your agruement is that neither one has a good lww to go along with a dominate berto win like lucas would have i agree with you. but that's not originally what you stated.

All right, Floyd Sr. reckons his son can make 140 comfortably. Let's assume it's true. Who would you pick out of Mayweather v Matthysse at 140? I would go with Matthysse because I know his power would count and he'd land the big shots he needs to at some point in the fight, I'm not certain of that at '47 since Floyd might have better punch resistance or Lucas may be slower etc. Maybe Matthysse's power carries up, maybe it doesn't. Same for Golovkin at 168, he may not be the same fighter even though he probably comes in the ring at the same weight as Froch. You just don't know until you see them in action at the weight class. and Provodnikov? he arguably lost that fight too (went down twice in the second round). Apparently wasn't impressive v Abregu either. To quote Malignaggi again...'we have weight classes for a reason' He clearly beat Abregu. Against Provodnikov, Bradley showed good movement when he boxed and he got hurt when he tried to stand toe to toe. Bradley has been hurt by power punchers at 140 (Kendall Holt) as well so I don't think that fight proves much. This is what I meant though. People will point to weight as the reason he struggled with Ruslan. The real reason is that one of Bradley's flaws got exposed again. He has a tendency to try and trade at times. Holt and Ruslan made him pay. Let's look at Ricky Hatton. He struggled against southpaws especially those with hand speed. He struggled with Collazo for this reason and was knocked out by Manny. He was also knocked down by Magee earlier in his career. Weight is just a convenient excuse used. His struggles with southpaws is overlooked or undervalued.

Froch's walk-around weight is 172, he says that's why he won't fight a LHW. Just like Martinez walk around weight was 167, I don't buy it.

In the bold, I believe Golovkin weighed 170 against Macklin, and there is no way a big SMW in Froch enters the ring weighing that. Froch's walk-around weight is 172, he says that's why he won't fight a LHW.

All right, Floyd Sr. reckons his son can make 140 comfortably. Let's assume it's true. Who would you pick out of Mayweather v Matthysse at 140? I would go with Matthysse because I know his power would count and he'd land the big shots he needs to at some point in the fight, I'm not certain of that at '47. Maybe Matthysse power carries up, maybe it doesn't. Same for Golovkin at '68, he may not be the same fighter even though he probably comes in the ring at the same weight as Froch. You just don't know until you see them in action at the weight class. For starters I don't believe Mayweather can make 140, or be healthy at that, so I don't agree with Sr. Floyd hasn't gone through the experience of making weight for quite some time, he's probably forgotten about it's difficulty. In the bold, I believe Golovkin weighed 170 against Macklin, and there is no way a big SMW in Froch enters the ring weighing that.

See, this to me is a result of you playing dumb. Mayweather has been dominant to answer the bold, but is it because of his size, overwhelming strength or power? We're talking about a guy who enters the ring at the low 150 lbs. Nope, I think Thurman handles him because I think he's the goods. Mosley used to call his style power boxing, though I never got that, what Thurman does...that to me looks like power boxing. Good defense, power on both hands, killer instinct, soon enough he'll prove me right. All right, Floyd Sr. reckons his son can make 140 comfortably. Let's assume it's true. Who would you pick out of Mayweather v Matthysse at 140? I would go with Matthysse because I know his power would count and he'd land the big shots he needs to at some point in the fight, I'm not certain of that at '47 since Floyd might have better punch resistance or Lucas may be slower etc. Maybe Matthysse's power carries up, maybe it doesn't. Same for Golovkin at 168, he may not be the same fighter even though he probably comes in the ring at the same weight as Froch. You just don't know until you see them in action at the weight class. I don't think Bradley should necessarily be at 140. He lost to a better fighter just like Hatton did. The weight wasn't the issue. The disparity in skill level was. and Provodnikov? he arguably lost that fight too (went down twice in the second round). Apparently wasn't impressive v Abregu either. To quote Malignaggi again...'we have weight classes for a reason'

To a lot of other people he's 0-2 or 0-3. Well precisely. Bradley should be at 140. He's at 147 sniffing a payday, just like Marquez, Rios, Khan, Guerrero and a bunch of other fighters. They're not fighting at their best weight, they're compromising themselves for their opponents. Credible on paper, but an effective 147 fighter? we won't know that until he fights a WW and that shouldn't be Mayweather straight away. I don't think Bradley should necessarily be at 140. He lost to a better fighter just like Hatton did. The weight wasn't the issue. The disparity in skill level was.

....they don't fight at the same weight class. Mayweather has proven himself as a effective 147 and even 154 fighter to some degree. Matthysse just at 140. If you look at Pacquiao, he stopped KO-ing his opponents at 147 because they could take his punches better. Yet you feel Thurman would beat Matthysse there. Tells its own story. Wiping out the best at 140 doesn't mean you'll do the same at 147 because it's a step up. See, this to me is a result of you playing dumb. Mayweather has been dominant to answer the bold, but is it because of his size, overwhelming strength or power? We're talking about a guy who enters the ring at the low 150 lbs. Nope, I think Thurman handles him because I think he's the goods. Mosley used to call his style power boxing, though I never got that, what Thurman does...that to me looks like power boxing. Good defense, power on both hands, killer instinct, soon enough he'll prove me right.

Move up and one eventually faces a bigger foe, on the other hand, Matthysse and Mayweather weigh exactly the same so your point is...... ....they don't fight at the same weight class. Mayweather has proven himself as a effective 147 and even 154 fighter to some degree. Matthysse just at 140. If you look at Pacquiao, he stopped KO-ing his opponents at 147 because they could take his punches better. Beating Peterson, and possibly Garcia next...I can't think of many names at '47 that would overshadow that. Yet you feel Thurman would beat Matthysse there. Tells its own story. Wiping out the best at 140 doesn't mean you'll do the same at 147 because it's a step up.

The come-forward was in reference to Berto although I realise it could have been read otherwise. But let's talk Matthysse-Thurman. If this fight was at 140, do you still think Thurman wins? (ignoring drainage) Imo Matthysse is going to be able to blast most guys out at 140 even if they're superior boxers. His power, like Malignaggi alluded to, is what makes him appear to many as a special fighter. Move him up a weight and potentially neutralise his power, he's not going to be that difficult to beat because his pure boxing skills aren't elite. The 140 version is the only proven version, he should prove himself at 147 before he's seen in the same light at that weight. Move up and one eventually faces a bigger foe, on the other hand, Matthysse and Mayweather weigh exactly the same so your point is...... which goes to my initial point. Beating Peterson, and possibly Garcia next...I can't think of many names at '47 that would overshadow that.

Thurman is more than jus' a come foward fighter, he's mobile and can throw power punches off of odd angles. I doubt Matthysse stops him, I don't even think he beats him. The come-forward was in reference to Berto although I realise it could have been read otherwise. But let's talk Matthysse-Thurman. If this fight was at 140, do you still think Thurman wins? (ignoring drainage) Imo Matthysse is going to be able to blast most guys out at 140 even if they're superior boxers. His power, like Malignaggi alluded to, is what makes him appear to many as a special fighter. Move him up a weight and potentially neutralise his power, he's not going to be that difficult to beat because his pure boxing skills aren't elite. The 140 version is the only proven version, he should prove himself at 147 before he's seen in the same light at that weight. are you serious? berto was almost koed by ortiz and thats a bad win for floyd ,guerrero beat the hell out of him and that's a bad win for floyd? Guerrero and Ortiz did nothing at WW or even LWW. How are these good wins? He didn't even beat Ortiz fairly.

Power through meaning winning by KO. If Matthysse is the same force at WW he'll stop a come-forward fighter like Berto (or Thurman) he'll stop him. I suspect however, he won't be and will struggle to get the bigger guys out of there i.e. his power, upon which so much of his game relies won't have the same effect. Floyd fans are keen for the match-up because they know Floyd holds the advantages weight-wise where Matthysse is unproven, suggest Golovkin at 154 to them and it's a whole 'nother story (even though that's where FMJ is fighting). are you serious? berto was almost koed by ortiz and thats a bad win for floyd ,guerrero beat the hell out of him and that's a bad win for floyd? but if mattyshe manages to stop him it'll be a great win for floyd smh. hahahahaha, didnt ricky fight at 47 if golovkin vs floyd is fair then ricky vs floyd is fair.

Power through meaning winning by KO. If Matthysse is the same force at WW he'll stop a come-forward fighter like Berto (or Thurman) he'll stop him. I suspect however, he won't be and will struggle to get the bigger guys out of there i.e. his power, upon which so much of his game relies won't have the same effect. Floyd fans are keen for the match-up because they know Floyd holds the advantages weight-wise where Matthysse is unproven, suggest Golovkin at 154 to them and it's a whole 'nother story (even though that's where FMJ is fighting). Thurman is more than jus' a come foward fighter, he's mobile and can throw power punches off of odd angles. I doubt Matthysse stops him, I don't even think he beats him.

Guerrero powered thru berto and you don't even consider him a good win for floyd at ww. but you'd consider lucas a force at ww if he beat berto? Power through meaning winning by KO. If Matthysse is the same force at WW he'll stop a come-forward fighter like Berto (or Thurman) he'll stop him. I suspect however, he won't be and will struggle to get the bigger guys out of there i.e. his power, upon which so much of his game relies won't have the same effect. Floyd fans are keen for the match-up because they know Floyd holds the advantages weight-wise where Matthysse is unproven, suggest Golovkin at 154 to them and it's a whole 'nother story (even though that's where FMJ is fighting).

Berto and Thurman or even a lump like Zaveck... good physical tests against genuine WWs. If he can power through those guys like he has at 140 we'll know he's a force at the weight. Alexander won his title against an old Bailey (beaten no one good at 147) defended it against Lee Purdy. He has proven virtually nothing at the weight besides being able to hug Maidana (another 140 stepping up) out of a fight. Guerrero powered thru berto and you don't even consider him a good win for floyd at ww. but you'd consider lucas a force at ww if he beat berto?