Who used to be on the berto bandwagon

I was on the bandwagon and still love to watch him fight but he didnt live up to the heights I thought he would,still a world class fighter and very game albeit a bit dim

i was a bit but not no more... all the guy is, is speed and power. Not to mention he complains after every loss, always talks a big came but is out thinking hes a rapper every other day dude is a joke

im still on the bandwagon. berto will be p4p #1 by the end of 2014. bump this thread!

Overpaid? Definitely. Overhyped? Nah I don't think so.He had about 3 fans on here. Cheated? Yes. Decline? From Floyd to Jesus Soto Karass in 2 years SMH.

I have to admit that I was on the Berto bandwagon. I liked how he would incorporate the uppercut into his arsenal. If he had fought and beat Mosley, he could have been a top 3 welterweight. I do still think that he can give very entertaining fights against any welterweight and junior welterweights.

They wouldn't have to admit it, Larry's "Berto is going to remind everyone he's a beast" thread would list all the names you need. I remember those days when he was called the new Mayweather and how he would take over etc I wish I had time to bump up all those threads.

There was A LOT of people on here who were who were on the wagon, none of them would come in here now and admit it. I alway thought he was over paid for fighting mediocre competition and whenever he steps up he needs a gift to get the W. They wouldn't have to admit it, Larry's "Berto is going to remind everyone he's a beast" thread would list all the names you need.

There was A LOT of people on here who were who were on the wagon, none of them would come in here now and admit it. I alway thought he was over paid for fighting mediocre competition and whenever he steps up he needs a gift to get the W.

Collazo changed my mind about him and Hatton

Good post above me. I was never on the bandwagon but always thought Berto would be a top 2 pr 3 welter in the years to come and I guess he was rated as such before he started losing. He still has the physical tools to be a top level fighter, the power is there and is the aggression. He just lacks the finish and finesse of a truly elite boxer.

Lets be honest here, who thought he was gunna be a force to be reckoned with His right hook right uppercut combo was beast but as he stepped up the competition it was obvious he wasn't what i thought I was, to be fair I still am. A couple of losses didn't make him a worse fighter to me, just not as good as I assumed, but you also have to give credit to his opponents. I give all the credit to Ortiz for beating Berto and not coming out intimidated. (My buddy sparred with Berto before this and was intimidated by his name/resume/status- and it affected him in the ring) I don't hype undefeated fighters and then ditch them when they take a loss, I follow/like fighters for different reasons and I mantain that opinion of them unless something drastically changes. I have never been mistaken in a sense that I thought someone wasn't a bum that was, or something significant, I have never been a fan of a fighter that later quit and disappointed me, or did something so drastic I no longer became a fan of them. Some boxers lose alot of hype unnnecessarily in my opinon, especially amongst casual fans. So a fighter eats a loss, even one he should have won and all of the sudden he's overrated or his career is over? Laughable. Most fighters, even great ones, don't stay undefeated, to me Berto is still an elite fighter with average defense but a fun style to watch, good power, and a better chance at bigger paydays than people want to give him credit for. Fans are so fickle. Paul Williams lost hype almost from one day to the next. Boxing should not be this way. In no sport do I abandon my team when they lose.

I don't know how anyone could stay sold after Collazo.

I always thought he was over paid and over hyped but he does make some exciting fights. Like his fights with Collazo and Ortiz I always wanted to see those two rematches but never happened. I will be rooting for him agains't Soto Karass if he doesn't beat him Berto is done.

Berto turned out to be exactly what he was back then and that was the problem. After he survived Collazo, he and his camp should have seen the improvements that needed to be made to challenge the elite. Conditioning, work rate, a real jab, more educated head movement, a more responsible defense, fighting off the back foot, fighting on the inside...heck, keeping his chin tucked better. They had a whole list and we saw no fight changing improvement in any area. Still lacked a jab to keep fighters honest, never threw enough yet still gassed, opponents still find his head with their eyes close, he still can be backed up to the ropes and worked over due to his lack of inside fighting ability. I wouldn't call it being on a bandwagon to see potential. I would if you said he could handle Mayweather and Manny, though.

I wish the Mosley fight would have happened. I think he still had enough back then to beat berto hype.

Lets be honest here, who thought he was gunna be a force to be reckoned with His right hook right uppercut combo was beast but as he stepped up the competition it was obvious he wasn't what i thought Never jumped on that bandwagon - I always thought he was a limited fighter and would have a tough time with a decent boxer. You saw the signs when he fought Collazo............... Man...I miss Collazo he was underrated. Garcia reminds me of Berto. Wait for a decent boxer exploit his weaknesses. :boxing: