Joan Guzman vs Victor Ortiz in talks

Absolutely no way Guzman could beat Ortiz at welter! The guy is a lightweight who is fighting a stone overweight. You just never know with ortiz

Absolutely no way Guzman could beat Ortiz at welter! The guy is a lightweight who is fighting a stone overweight.

What network would still agree to televise a Guzman fight? Up until the last minute the fight would always be in jeopardy, as Guzman takes nothing seriously.

They'll both quit at the same time and who Evers story is better will win LOL :biggthump

Ortiz wud ko guzman, if guzman lacked power at 140lb how strong u think he gonna be at 147 against big ass ortiz....and guzman aint as fast either...GUZMAN IS FINISHED at da top level Finished? Every time he got the chance to get there he ****ed it up he never really got started

Even off this layoff, Ortiz beats Guzman pretty badly.

They'll both quit at the same time and who Evers story is better will win haha but no seriously Ortiz should beat the breaks off this man unless the lay off has done to much to him

Good scrap

Quitter vs quitter, not sure if I like this.

Good fight... The outcome of the fight depends on how Ortiz approaches the fight, if he's in attack mode, he'll win by clear decision, possible KO; if he tries to box and use his footwork on the outside, Guzman is going to decision him. If they trade roles pressing and boxing, whoever presses the fight most wins a close decision. Ortiz' strength advantage is so great (not to mention his offensive arsenal good against Guzman's style) that Ortiz would be a fool to not press the fight, but we all know Victor's literally a tree bro. Finally a great response.this site is full of children and a s s h o l e s

Good fight... The outcome of the fight depends on how Ortiz approaches the fight, if he's in attack mode, he'll win by clear decision, possible KO; if he tries to box and use his footwork on the outside, Guzman is going to decision him. If they trade roles pressing and boxing, whoever presses the fight most wins a close decision. Ortiz' strength advantage is so great (not to mention his offensive arsenal good against Guzman's style) that Ortiz would be a fool to not press the fight, but we all know Victor's literally a tree bro.

I hope they have a dance off in the ring. But do that first before one quits and the other gets hurt.

they both suffer severe injuries in RD 6. No contest.

Why? tell him it's at 140 so he can barely make weight lol i went 9 pounds up instead of 9 pounds down :pat:

Yes but they're telling Joan its at 169 Why? tell him it's at 140 so he can barely make weight

Is this at 160? Yes but they're telling Joan its at 169

Any source? It wont happen