Who should Canelo spar with?

as i said in the canelo to spar tito ramos thread, they should pay rigo a **** load of money to spar with him. joe louis (at lhw) use to love to spar eddie futch (a lightweight) when they where both amateurs. When Louis was training for the 1934 National AAU Tournament, Futch suggested that he spar with middleweights. Futch said, "I used to ask him, 'Why do you want to box with me? I know what you want—you want speed. But the middleweights are fast enough for you. You're a light heavyweight. Get a middleweight, they're bigger and they're fast enough.' He said, 'No, no, no. I can hit those guys with everything. When I hit you with anything, I know I'm sharp.' So I sparred with him for that tournament." dead cereal.

A few rounds beating up on broner probably wouldn't hurt The Can Man would be easy work for Canelo.:boxing:

A few rounds beating up on broner probably wouldn't hurt

Anyone known for their "veteran tactics" in the ring, preferably an MMA fighter.

They're runners (for the most part) just like Floyd. Canelo's main challenge is to cut off the ring and catch up with Mayweather. I don't think Alvarez has to worry too much about what Floyd throws, he can take his punches, just like he took the bigger Trout's with ease. Canelo's main challenge is to consistently get up close and personal with FMJ like Cotto did, if he can manage that, he can stop him. I don't see him having that hard of a time cotto caught up to him constantly Floyd's just not as mobile at 154 at least I haven't seen it. He didn't move to much vs de lahoya or cotto maybe because he knew he had to fight those men but idk just haven't seen the great mobility at 154 I've seen at 147 and below.

He'll use Steve Forbes at some point

Honestly he couldn't have done anything to have have actually beat Manny its a difference in skill level I disagree, Pacquiao looked poor-ish against Mosley when Shane got on his bike and he lost those late rounds against Bradley. If Tim had boxed that way from the start he might have merited the decision. I'd pick Tim in a rematch with Pacquiao (assuming Ruslan hasn't scrambled his brain).

Bradley really isn't a backfoot fighter at all. How many fighters has Bradley fought the entirety of a fight on the backfoot? You said 4 fights. Let's look at his last 4 fights. Provodkiov, came out aggressively, got hurt and boxed as long as he could or his boxing ability would let him. Pacquaio, tried to both box and brawl then when he couldn't handle Pacquaio's power and realised he didn't have the ability to outbox him, went into survival mode for the most part. He boxed both Provodnikov on the backfoot for most of the fight and was given the decision and he won the rounds he boxed against Pacquiao on the backfoot. He is a very good mobile backfoot fighter. Sure, he will stand toe to toe and get inside with an Alexander who can't hurt him but Tim is far more effective when he uses the ring. Floyd's last 4 fights have been against the likes of Ortiz and Mosley where he walked towards them - he won't be doing that against Canelo, he will run like he did from the plodding Guerrero. He will come forward as much as he can because that's his style then if he were to get hurt he would try and box to the best of his ability which is limited. I don't agree. He is a very good boxer. He's on many people's PFP lists for a reason. He's not exceptional on the backfoot. If he was exceptional on the back foot he wouldn't have been in the problems he's been in. The problems he has gotten into have been when he has decided to trade or stay too long on the inside - i.e. when he doesn't box on the backfoot. When he sticks to a plan of boxing, he is very difficult to get to. Even when he "runs" his footwork or his back foot ability doesn't resemble Mayweather's in any way. Same difference IDH. Bradley's movement around the ring would provide good foil for Mayweather's proposed gameplan - which we both know will be to run and avoid getting caught against the ropes.

No, I think he should box in the way that suits his strengths. Bradley makes the mistake of thinking he can trade with his opponents. Imo he could have beaten Pacquiao if he had moved around the ring from the outset. Honestly he couldn't have done anything to have have actually beat Manny its a difference in skill level

No, I think he should box in the way that suits his strengths. Bradley makes the mistake of thinking he can trade with his opponents. Imo he could have beaten Pacquiao if he had moved around the ring from the outset. False. When it was clear he couldn't handle banging with Pacquaio he tried to box. He doesn't have the boxing ability to outbox Pacquaio. He's not an overly good boxer.

They are runners. Bradley comes inside more but they are both backfoot fighters who ideally like to make full use of the ring. Bradley has actually looked the more mobile fighter over his last 3-4 fights of the two. Bradley really isn't a backfoot fighter at all. How many fighters has Bradley fought the entirety of a fight on the backfoot? You said 4 fights. Let's look at his last 4 fights. Provodkiov, came out aggressively, got hurt and boxed as long as he could or his boxing ability would let him. Pacquaio, tried to both box and brawl then when he couldn't handle Pacquaio's power and realised he didn't have the ability to outbox him, went into survival mode for the most part. Casamayor - Barely took a single step backward. Alexander - Barely took a single step backward. After which he virtually won every round, same against Provodnikov after getting dropped early. How long do you think he's going to come forward sparring Alvarez? be serious now. He will come forward as much as he can because that's his style then if he were to get hurt he would try and box to the best of his ability which is limited. I also don't know how you think Bradley survives as a world class fighter without being exceptional at anything. Like I said Bradley is exceptional on the backfoot, it's only when he comes forward he looks vulnerable, chasing him around the ring would be good practice for Alvarez because that's what he's going to be doing against Mayweather. He survives as a world class fighter because he's good in every area with great heart and stamina. Anyone with these traits will do well in Boxing. He's not exceptional on the backfoot. If he was exceptional on the back foot he wouldn't have been in the problems he's been in. Like I said, he's probably come forward more in his career as opposed to going backward. Even when he "runs" his footwork or his back foot ability doesn't resemble Mayweather's in any way.

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So he's supposed to keep getting hit does that sound smart No, I think he should box in the way that suits his strengths. Bradley makes the mistake of thinking he can trade with his opponents. Imo he could have beaten Pacquiao if he had moved around the ring from the outset.

Alvarez doesn't move, he's a static fighter. Everyone has legs compared to him. The challenge for Canelo is to adapt his immobile style to put pressure on. He'll run as soon as he's hit hard, ask Manny Pacquiao. Bradley's an exceptionally good backfoot fighter when he fights that way. So he's supposed to keep getting hit does that sound smart

You didn't say compared to Canelo you said Bradley is a runner like Mayweather. Neither are "runners" but Mayweather certainly moves a lot more effectively than Bradley when he wants to. Bradley's movement isn't great at all. They are runners. Bradley comes inside more but they are both backfoot fighters who ideally like to make full use of the ring. Bradley has actually looked the more mobile fighter over his last 3-4 fights of the two. Bradley's backfoot isn't exceptional at all. Bradley isn't exceptional at anything. And Bradley tried to come foward against Pacquaio. When it inevitabley didn't work and wasn't working he tried something else. After which he virtually won every round, same against Provodnikov after getting dropped early. How long do you think he's going to come forward sparring Alvarez? be serious now. I also don't know how you think Bradley survives as a world class fighter without being exceptional at anything. Like I said Bradley is exceptional on the backfoot, it's only when he comes forward he looks vulnerable, chasing him around the ring would be good practice for Alvarez because that's what he's going to be doing against Mayweather.

Karl Dargan is his best bet

The only person he needs is ODLH but I think Canelo hits too hard for him

Alvarez doesn't move, he's a static fighter. Everyone has legs compared to him. The challenge for Canelo is to adapt his style to put pressure on. You didn't say compared to Canelo you said Bradley is a runner like Mayweather. Neither are "runners" but Mayweather certainly moves a lot more effectively than Bradley when he wants to. Bradley's movement isn't great at all. He'll run as soon as he's hit hard, ask Manny Pacquiao. Bradley's an exceptional good backfoot when he fights that way. Bradley's backfoot isn't exceptional at all. Bradley isn't exceptional at anything. And Bradley tried to come foward against Pacquaio. When it inevitabley didn't work and wasn't working he tried something else. When fighting others he moves forward as much as he does backward. He's probably done more moving forward in his career than he has backward. He is literally the worst sparring partner I could think of. Pretending that someone like Bradley would be a sparring partner, that is.

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shawn porter to mimic the size and arm length. he's a good athlete, too. i'm trying to think of a solid, less than top shelf JMW who is a counterpuncher. ishe smith, perhaps. i'm not saying these are reasonable sparring partners, given where they are in their careers, but they would help him get ready. maybe somebody with speed, and a punchingbag to round things off :rofl: