Sergey kovalev - overrated?

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And if Kovalev beats Ward what will you say? I'll say, congrats to the crusher! P4P #1 in the sport. Bring on Stevenson! I wouldn't be bothered if Kovalev won. I think Andre is a fantastic human being and I respect him tons, but he doesn't validate me as a person or a boxing fan. I'd rather see the best man win. Kovalev has certain personally quirks (chough*racist*cough) but I still like him a lot as a fighter and have learned a good deal from watching him. He's such a brilliant example of how proper form can generate massive power without needing to load up, exaggerate, have bulking muscle, etc.

His resume is overrated, but the guy himself deserves a lot of the praise he gets because of the talents he's shown. That's what makes the Ward fight so great, it's finally a chance to see Kovalev fight an elite fighter in his prime. A chance for him to prove just how great he his (or isn't). And if Kovalev beats Ward what will you say?

Even if Kovalev gets beat by Ward I don't think it means he's overrated, we all know Ward is a excellent fighter and he could easily beat Kovalev on the 19th. I think we will find out if he's as good as advertised though that night if he wins or puts up a hell of a fight .. If he would lose to some guy ranked #7 or something then yeah, he's overrated obviously

His resume is overrated, but the guy himself deserves a lot of the praise he gets because of the talents he's shown. That's what makes the Ward fight so great, it's finally a chance to see Kovalev fight an elite fighter in his prime. A chance for him to prove just how great he his (or isn't).

Maybe Kovalev will prove me wrong, which might be hard if Hopkins doesn't fight him and Ward never moves up, but those two fight a style I think would neutralize Kovalev. Kovalev obviously has a very good chance against Hopkins and should probably be the favorite, but Ward would definitely beat him IMO. Hopefully we get to see these fights. Kovalev is HBO now, and they should push Ward to fight him in the near future. Still think Ward beats him, but Kovalev has improved a lot from the fighter he was back during the Cleverly fight. The Hopkins fight was really eye-opening. And thank you HBO, for pushing Ward to take this fight. :boxing:

if kovalev wins i'll be the first to admit that he is the better fighter , but it just ain't happening. he's there to be hit and clevs style of fighting is a nightmare , we will see if kovalev can go a full paced hard 12 rounds as we know nathan can and we will also see if clevs chin is "overrated" :lol1: :lol1: What a gem

will cleverly gain anyone's respect once he beats kovalev :rofl: :rofl:

Lol why you acting like Dawson was some bum at the time? As far as skills and techniques go, Dawson was a far superior fighter than Kovalev. That isn't to say Kovalev wouldn't beat Hopkins, but let's not revise history and make it seem like Dawson had no skills. He was a highly skilled fighter. I never said that. Of course Dawson had skills- but IMO this Kovalev is better then that Dawson. I'm not sure- I think Kovalev is just as technically sound and skillful as Dawson was, he's just never had to put it on display for 12 rounds. And add his crippling power- Dawson could only dream of power like KOvalevs. Whatever Dawson hit Hop with, Kovalev hits him 10x harder. If you believe Dawson is more skillful then you could think Kovalev might not have those same opportunities - however I don't believe that. The Dawson that beat Hop is easy work for the Krusher. This is just my opinion, don't take it personal, I know yorva huge hopkins fan. Many people will disagree with me and that's OKAY

Both Hopkins and Ward do things that Kovalev has never had to contend with yet. They are capable of clinching and spoiling for several rounds. Kovalev likes to fight in a rhythm and they would both try to break that rhythm. You are absolutely correct- however Kovalev isn't the plodder Pascal or Cloud are. Neither man can clinch and spoil the duration of a whole fight and not get caught once - and neither has faced a man with KOvalevs power (don't forget wards tasted the canvas before) Also don't forget Kovlaev comes inside to try and overwhelm his opponents with non stop power shots - but I believe he is most effective when he's at Range and using his jab as a measuring stick to let right hand go. He is no crude brawler like Rios who is going to be in Wards orvHopkins pocket all night, I think he will adapt if he has to and give himself some room and the moment either man go on the defensive or possibly survival mode he will come forward and try to end it IMO

Kovalev beats both IMO. Hopkins at this point (with all due respect) won't go past 5. The man lost to Chad Dawson for Christ sakes, stop going around acting like he's invincible..... If Dawson can put in work, Kovalev absolutely puts him to sleep IMO. Ward-Kovalev is the best possible fight out there At 168-175 I think and I actually think Kovalev is the man to take his 0. Bold prediction, I know... But once Ward feels his power he's on his bike ans it's only a matter of time. No one 175 and under beats Kovalev. Sign it, seal it and lock it up , I'll bump this in a year and you will see :boxing: Maybe Kovalev will prove me wrong, which might be hard if Hopkins doesn't fight him and Ward never moves up, but those two fight a style I think would neutralize Kovalev. Kovalev obviously has a very good chance against Hopkins and should probably be the favorite, but Ward would definitely beat him IMO. Hopefully we get to see these fights. Kovalev is HBO now, and they should push Ward to fight him in the near future.

Kovalev beats both IMO. Hopkins at this point (with all due respect) won't go past 5. The man lost to Chad Dawson for Christ sakes, stop going around acting like he's invincible..... If Dawson can put in work, Kovalev absolutely puts him to sleep IMO. Ward-Kovalev is the best possible fight out there At 168-175 I think and I actually think Kovalev is the man to take his 0. Bold prediction, I know... But once Ward feels his power he's on his bike ans it's only a matter of time. No one 175 and under beats Kovalev. Sign it, seal it and lock it up , I'll bump this in a year and you will see :boxing: Both Hopkins and Ward do things that Kovalev has never had to contend with yet. They are capable of clinching and spoiling for several rounds. Kovalev likes to fight in a rhythm and they would both try to break that rhythm.

Kovalev proved he is one of the better LHW in the world. I think its fair to have stevenson and bhop ahead of him. I think Kovalev right now is the best of the kovalev/cloud/cleverely/chad/pascal group.

Bhop and Ward both tire him out early and both stop him. Kovalev beats both IMO. Hopkins at this point (with all due respect) won't go past 5. The man lost to Chad Dawson for Christ sakes, stop going around acting like he's invincible..... If Dawson can put in work, Kovalev absolutely puts him to sleep IMO. Ward-Kovalev is the best possible fight out there At 168-175 I think and I actually think Kovalev is the man to take his 0. Bold prediction, I know... But once Ward feels his power he's on his bike ans it's only a matter of time. No one 175 and under beats Kovalev. Sign it, seal it and lock it up , I'll bump this in a year and you will see :boxing:

Nope, personally I think Kovalev is going to clean out 175 division and will fight andre ward sometime late next year. I've been saying this for almost a year. Sergey Kovalev is the absolute toughest possible fight for Ward out there, more so then golovkin. IMO. While he hasn't shown the most elite defense thus far, I honestly think it's just him going into everyone of his fights so far knowing he's going to spark his opponent and not even worried about getting hit back because he knows he'll ice them. When/if he fights guys like ward and even cleverly in august, I think you'll see a more fluid Kovalev and not as "sloppy." I think you'll see a better defense and movement from him as he continues to step up, but just like GGG.... His offense is so good that he could honestly have the worst defense in the world and any fight he's in would still be 50/50 due to his monstrous offense alone. His very techinically sound and has good boxing skills on top of his destructive power.... When you have that kind of an attack, it's easy to see why a guy can get a bit careless against opponents you know you're going spark anyway. No, I don't think he's overrated ;)

Bhop and Ward both tire him out early and both stop him.

if kovalev wins i'll be the first to admit that he is the better fighter , but it just ain't happening. he's there to be hit and clevs style of fighting is a nightmare , we will see if kovalev can go a full paced hard 12 rounds as we know nathan can and we will also see if clevs chin is "overrated" the guy can obviously punch but he has no head movement. i think clev beats him in a 12 round war. i wanna see how this guy reacts to being hit in the body as his chin looks bigger than the white cliffs of dover. willing to take bets on this fight. whats your thoughts on the "beast" thought i'd give my thread a bump! my oh my , look at those comments how fvcking wrong was i. come at me cunts!

Kovalev is what he is and Cleverly is what he is. That being said, Cleverly sucks something fierce and will get decimated in front of his hometown fans early. Why he took this fight I don't know, but he's an idiot if he thinks this is going to be like fighting the Robin Krasniqi's of the world.

He's certainly overrated on here. I can envisage a Lacy style back-pedalling from a lot of people on here if Clev beats him. Kovalev has proven his power and legitmacy. Lacy didn't, Lacy looked terrible everytime he fought someone decent both prior and after the Calzaghe fight. If anyone is like Lacy it's Tavoris Cloud. They are pretty much carbon copys of one another.

He's certainly overrated on here. I can envisage a Lacy style back-pedalling from a lot of people on here if Clev beats him.