Manny Pacquiao Would Fight Floyd Mayweather, But Not Canelo Alvarez!

there is no excuse for him fighting a loser i give no credit for him if he beats rios, it should have been alvarado... pac let me down this time He just got knocked out there both comming off a loss this a test to see if PAC can take power still and where he's at it's a good fight he could be fighting the shenchko or however it's spelled of the world.

Pacquiao will never fight Mayweather because Mayweather will always want almost all the money and Pacquiao won't ever go for that. Pacquiao can still make damn good money fighting other fighters. Pacquiao does not need Mayweather but he does need to look good in his fight with Rios. Mayweather does not need Pacquiao since he is getting something like 30 million no matter who he fights. I'd say the chances of a Mayweather-Pacquiao fighter ever happening are close to zero. But pac will take a measly 3 mil from arum over 40 mil from may? That's the type bs pac will go for!

Manny would NEVER fight Canelo , not if his life depended on it would he fight a real JMW , Canelos skills speed and size difference would blast Manny outa there , Margo was chosen because he was sloth slow a former WW , then CWed to 150 and he took diuretics to make the weight , then a guy this slow they put in a 26 ft ring , do you guys ever break a fight down . Canelo destroys Manny , to big and to good . Canelo had a hard time getting under 152 for a 150 CW fight several years ago. Imagine the even bigger version of Canelo making it under 152 now? It's going to be very tough. Why didn't you pick up on that since you love discussing CWs? Here is Oscar speaking the truth BEFORE the fight was contracted for 152: "Canelo is barely making 154, says De La Hoya, and he can’t even make 152 for a catchweight fight. De La Hoya is probably speaking the truth about that because Canelo failed to make the catchweight of 150 lbs. for his fight against Matthew Hatton 2+ years ago for the vacant WBC junior middleweight title. Canelo weighed in at 151.8. but the fight still went ahead" http://www.sportstalk200.com/2013/05/de-la-hoya-mayweather-has-to-come-up-to-154-for-canelo/

shy to name the great fighters he beaten? right.... so u became a believer due to canelo beating grandpa mosley, the great baldomir then huh? he schooled them right? wow what a skill, wonder why i miss seeing it :( and wow ggg saying canelo is good boy now canelo is great Wow i just realize who im talking and wasting my time to :chairshot Your a bit of goose , I said to you in the first post you need names on paper to verify to yourself a fighter is good I don't I evaluate the performance , you don't care that Oscar was a waif needing IV fluids his name is all you see , Cotto complained about being drained and was ducked at 154 but that don't matter to you either , Margo come of a beating had 2 yrs out and needed diuretics to make a BS 150 and just to make sure then they put him in a 26 ft ring so Manny can pot shot the sloth all night . but that don't matter to either because you didn't and don't see any of it , just the name and a beating is all your vision can see . The big names on Mannys resume lol , they would all be beat to fck by Canelo the night Manny fought them , Steve Florbes would have stopped the dead man walking Oscar that Manny fought lol , so whats in a name when it don't represent the real fighter , its name only , the sport of boxing and all its prospects have been riding of washed up names for ever , Manny just did it in another way and on the big stage , he is WW hype job , that's why he is fighting Rios , since he stopped with lowering CWs he has not fought a WW and been beat by LWs twice .

The Pacquiao that fought Cotto and Margarito beats any version of Canelo. Too much speed and movement. Canelo gets worn down and beat up. No way he could keep up with the pace Pac would set. That Pac WONT fight anybody above 150 even when they blown up WWs , that's what you don't see , the reasons why he looked like he did in those fights , and the reasons he flunked out with Mosley Bradley and JMM , all from 135 , a full blown prime JMW would blow Manny a new one , keep believing the hype kid .

still dodge my question in what canelo fight made u a believer that he got skillz and speed? Every time he fights I see sharp short fast punches , he hits hard without being a KO artist , and at the moment the NO 1 JMW in the world , GGG said he is the best fighter he has been in a ring with , if you cant see the class that's in Canelo your following the wrong sport .

Again, I understand that the Rios fight is to make manny look good. You're completely missing the point of the post. I clearly said there's no reason he couldn't have fought Alvarado instead. Did anyone catch that part. The point of me saying he tried to fight JMM and Bradley was because in the post I was answering the guy said manny shouldn't have to fight a winner. My point was he was trying to fight two winners prior to signing for Rios so he could've fought Mike instead. Trust me I know Bradley wanted the rematch after the first fight with Manny. You guys are just taking my post out of context. You went off on a wild tangent because you think I have an agenda but it couldn't be further from the truth. The reason I won't give manny hell over this fight is because I don't think Alvarado is that good either and top rank doesn't have many good fighters at ww. The fact that manny is coming off a KO has nothing to do with my opinion. Sorry I miss read you .

The Pacquiao that fought Cotto and Margarito beats any version of Canelo. Too much speed and movement. Canelo gets worn down and beat up. No way he could keep up with the pace Pac would set.

He wasn't trying hard enough , by out pricing the guy that just KOed you is insulting to Marquez , give JMM 50/50 and Manny would have got the fight . Bradley owes him nothing and was a refused a promised rematch that forced him to wallow in public condemnation after his biggest win , Bradley wanted him again badly and Manny left him in the lurch to fight JMM so I can understand Bradley thinking fck you Manny I,ll beat the guy that Koed you . So don't make out Manny tried to get the bigger fights , they have a public agenda and must put out a certain image , they choose Rios because he is a face first B fighter , Arum is selling Rios down the river they want him to get Koed to posture Manny into a big cashout fight probably JMM or Floyd , the others wont pay enough and Manny will lose to them the money is a big priority to Manny . Again, I understand that the Rios fight is to make manny look good. You're completely missing the point of the post. I clearly said there's no reason he couldn't have fought Alvarado instead. Did anyone catch that part. The point of me saying he tried to fight JMM and Bradley was because in the post I was answering the guy said manny shouldn't have to fight a winner. My point was he was trying to fight two winners prior to signing for Rios so he could've fought Mike instead. Trust me I know Bradley wanted the rematch after the first fight with Manny. You guys are just taking my post out of context. You went off on a wild tangent because you think I have an agenda but it couldn't be further from the truth. The reason I won't give manny hell over this fight is because I don't think Alvarado is that good either and top rank doesn't have many good fighters at ww. The fact that manny is coming off a KO has nothing to do with my opinion.

I actually don't have a problem with a Rios fight. I think it will get PAC back on track and have him look really good again. But he was trying to fight winners in Marquez and Bradley. No reason he couldn't fight Alvarado. He wasn't trying hard enough , by out pricing the guy that just KOed you is insulting to Marquez , give JMM 50/50 and Manny would have got the fight . Bradley owes him nothing and was a refused a promised rematch that forced him to wallow in public condemnation after his biggest win , Bradley wanted him again badly and Manny left him in the lurch to fight JMM so I can understand Bradley thinking fck you Manny I,ll beat the guy that Koed you . So don't make out Manny tried to get the bigger fights , they have a public agenda and must put out a certain image , they choose Rios because he is a face first B fighter , Arum is selling Rios down the river they want him to get Koed to posture Manny into a big cashout fight probably JMM or Floyd , the others wont pay enough and Manny will lose to them the money is a big priority to Manny .

I mean in all honesty at least a damn welterweighht!!!! Ask yourself this, why didnt Pac fight Alexander??? Dat would have more credibility than a 140 pounder comin off a loss... Didnt even fight Mike Alvarado... The greats fight at least decent competition..... Rios is a bum and should not even be considered lol Did you read my post? I said there's no reason he couldn't fight Alvarado. Not to mention Alexander won't happen since he's with Golden Boy. Do you think Rios would beat broner??? Why didnt Pac go after broner???? Many fights dat would have been more viable.... People are trying to see if Rios can put pac to sleep to determine if Pac is still okay... Rios aint shat at all, and PAC will not respect Rios because if he does and it goes the distance thats just as bad as losing in all honesty...... Careful matchmakin and da tards are eating it up.... Again no Broner fight because of promoter beef. PAC tard? Lmao you're crazy. I'm the furthest thing from one. I'm just a fan of the sport. Check my post history. Like I said in the original post no reason he can't fight Alvarado but Top Rank doesn't have a deep stable so Rios is probably the 2nd best option. Pacman tried to fight Marquez and Bradley first but they're fighting each other.

as i said see againts who? which fight made u a canelo believer? faster than jmm? base on againts who? slow arse grandpa mosley? give me fighter names u got nothing? so u got left with canelo having the size.... skills untested, speed untested heck i can see every punch he throws even at super fast speed :/ right canelo only has size againts floyd or manny... pac vs marquez was all close fights only dumbos think different other wise pac struggled againts marquez marquez struggled againts pac and that went to 4 fights size alone doesnt beat pac vs marg speed and skills doesnt beat pac vs bradley u saying canelo would kill pac in one fight is like saying canelo is better than marquez skillwise = the dumbest thing a hater could say in this forum Read it again you missed it all and maybe have a think about things , or better still just give your brain time to absorb things , and thirdly have a go at this sport you will get a much better understanding of boxing , all your Marquez gibberish has nothing at all in common with Canelo . Originally Posted by Reloaded He has skills based on what I see and I didn't say he has them at JMM level he don't , but he is a much faster puncher than JMM and a lot bigger , I don't need others to tell me if a guy can fight Ive been around boxing before you were born , you kids are all about names and hype not the actually boxing there a lots of crucial elements outside of the fight that have a big effect on the fight itself . Marquez arguably beat him 3 out of 4 and KOed him to finally get the win on paper so I don't know what your on about because JMM is not the only one to beat him or stop him , I think Manny is a great fighter but a WW fraud , that's why he is fighting Rios and not a live WW . Canelo still has a big size advantage over Floyd and seeing he was 153 last fight if you think 152 makes all the difference you must be a great fortune teller because I wont know if Canelo will be effected until I see the fight , at this point I don't think it will bother him , its not like 2 lb to a 147 fighter the equivalent would be 150 so in reality Floyd has made more of mental dent with the 152 than a physical one , but like I say the fight will tell all about the weight , if Floyd is pushing Canelo around Id say the he is weight effected , until then try and be a logical fan instead of a fanboy hater .

I actually don't have a problem with a Rios fight. I think it will get PAC back on track and have him look really good again. But he was trying to fight winners in Marquez and Bradley. No reason he couldn't fight Alvarado. Do you think Rios would beat broner??? Why didnt Pac go after broner???? Many fights dat would have been more viable.... People are trying to see if Rios can put pac to sleep to determine if Pac is still okay... Rios aint shat at all, and PAC will not respect Rios because if he does and it goes the distance thats just as bad as losing in all honesty...... Careful matchmakin and da tards are eating it up....

I actually don't have a problem with a Rios fight. I think it will get PAC back on track and have him look really good again. But he was trying to fight winners in Marquez and Bradley. No reason he couldn't fight Alvarado. I mean in all honesty at least a damn welterweighht!!!! Ask yourself this, why didnt Pac fight Alexander??? Dat would have more credibility than a 140 pounder comin off a loss... Didnt even fight Mike Alvarado... The greats fight at least decent competition..... Rios is a bum and should not even be considered lol

Canelo is too big for a past prime Pacquiao doe. When did Manny git old overnight?? Please I beg you answer me this. Pac was just knocked out true, but what made yall say he wasnt prime?? Because he couldnt put mosley away?? Truth is Pac never could cut the ring off effectively at all... Never has been able to. Any boxer that shows him movement he looks bad against... Even Cotto showed us this and he was prime when he fought cotto... Mosley can box, and Pac cant cut a ring off wit a katana... Dats why Bradley made him look like ****, but against Clottey, and Margs etc he looks phenomenal... In 2009 He iced Cotto and Hatton... What damage has he taken?? No the truth is simple..... Against people with movement he looks like **** and will look good against Rios. Yall aint foolin no damn body lol Rios has never even fought at welterweight period... Have yall no fawkin shame??? Cut it out, as people on dis board dat know boxing have been saying, he been facing opposition that makes him look good.... And Rios is no exception....... A sacrificial goat for Pacquiao lol

in pacs defence he did get koed in his last fight... why should he be forced to fight a winner if hes coming off a loss himself? I actually don't have a problem with a Rios fight. I think it will get PAC back on track and have him look really good again. But he was trying to fight winners in Marquez and Bradley. No reason he couldn't fight Alvarado.

as i said see againts who? which fight made u a canelo believer? faster than jmm? base on againts who? slow arse grandpa mosley? give me fighter names u got nothing? so u got left with canelo having the size.... skills untested, speed untested heck i can see every punch he throws even at super fast speed :/ right canelo only has size againts floyd or manny... pac vs marquez was all close fights only dumbos think different other wise pac struggled againts marquez marquez struggled againts pac and that went to 4 fights size alone doesnt beat pac vs marg speed and skills doesnt beat pac vs bradley u saying canelo would kill pac in one fight is like saying canelo is better than marquez skillwise = the dumbest thing a hater could say in this forum Canelo would beat Pac............ Its okay dont cry bro...... Canelo would serve PAC ass somethin fierce......

in pacs defence he did get koed in his last fight... why should he be forced to fight a winner if hes coming off a loss himself? So if you lose, you battle tailor made losers???? Seriously if Floyd was facing Rios in September yall would be tearin Floyd a new ******* lmao And not directed at you, but why is it as of late, everytime theres a can pac beat this person thread do I keep seeing dis shat?? "If it was the pac pre bradley, he would win, or if it was the pac of old etc" I have yet to hear anyone say if da real ALI that fought Liston was fighting Trevor Berbick, berbick would have been whooped... While true, its not like Pacquiao doesnt still fight. If thats da case he needs to retire.....

is pac using floyd name to sell his fight vs rios?smh but he shouldnt fight nelo at 152 the size difference would be extreme. This is a perfect example why I say floyd is the best and people will never admit it. It's call weight class, floyd and manny come in the ring weighing around 150 yet people really want Floyd to fight Nelo and GGG because of his larger frame but when it comes to pac it's ok for him not to. You guys are sorry. Your logic makes as much sense as saying just because paul Williams and George Foreman are both around the same height forman being like an inch taller it's ok for Williams to fight him.

I don't care if I am they are 50. Just for the long as wait, I'd shell out 70 beans to watch them get it on in the ring.