Lets be serious, Ain't nobody messing with Martinez!

Bait. ..........

its time for sergio martinez appreciation thread because if he ever fights GGG, it will be his last time as 160lb champion. It could look like pacquiao de la hoya possibly pacquiao hatton. Yeah with Martinez being Pacquiao...

Barker and Murray both did the exact same thing. Solid fundamentals, close the distance round by round, and land their punches when they closed the distance. As the fight went on, they closed the distance more with each round. Golovkin is way better than either of them at doing exactly that. Neither guy fought like a pressure fighter, what they did do is shell up and picked their shots, forcing Sergio to initiate the action. They did on occasion close the distance by taking a few slow steps just to be in range for the 1-2. When Sergio would come in with a combination, they would keep their guard up and throw the 1-2 when the opportunity presented itself (Note the low output, but high connection rate) Golovkin is not that kind of fighter, he's not a safety first fighter like Barker and Murray who keep an educated guard and throw only when they see an opening. Golovkin tries to come in rapidly while cutting the angles and trying to throw combinations to the body and head. He also get's hit a lot more than Murray and Barker do as a result (notice how Rosado was able to catch him with some counters as he was coming in). Entirely different fighters, entirely different styles.

Martin Murray is the #1 contender to GGG WBA belt but when you look at Murray tweets all you see is Martinez, Chavez, Froch, Geale, and Barker you don't see GGG name..

Barker and Murray both did the exact same thing. Solid fundamentals, close the distance round by round, and land their punches when they closed the distance. As the fight went on, they closed the distance more with each round. Golovkin is way better than either of them at doing exactly that. My thoughts exactly. People choosing Sergio because he has shown ability to box and move, but in Sergio's recent fight his opponents (well Murray actually won) have made me think Sergio is MADE for GGG to dismantle.

I thought Martinez was overrated when most guys pretty much thought he was God. Now, he seems to have faded a bit. GGG by KO.

Darren Barker didn't cut off the ring at all, he shelled up and forced Sergio to initiate the action; something that frustrated him initially as he is generally used to countering his opponents as they're coming in. Sergio made the necessary adjustments and stopped Barker with a right hook through Barker's guard. Barker and Murray both did the exact same thing. Solid fundamentals, close the distance round by round, and land their punches when they closed the distance. As the fight went on, they closed the distance more with each round. Golovkin is way better than either of them at doing exactly that.

1) His footwork also causes him to get knocked down fairly often. 2) Golovkin has been shown to continue stalking even when hit flush. 3) Golovkin looked fine against Rosado and was sick 2 days before the fight. Against Ouma that was a war and it lasted longer than 6 rounds, Golovkin also did not eat or drink properly 2 days before the fight as he had to sleep in the airport because of visa issues. In both these situations Golovkin wasn't even close to his best. His stamina looked fine vs Ouma, especially considering how much of a war the fight was. 1) Sergio's footwork allows him to lower his opponent's output and open up angles for him to land his punches. He's also efficient at keeping his opponents in the right distance and using lateral movement to avoid getting trapped in an unnecessary skirmish. Even in the few occasions when the fight has been seen fighting on the ropes he has always looked solid (see: Sergio v. Chavez 4th & 11th rounds). 2) Golovkin has never been hit by anyone with anywhere close to the power Sergio can deliver with a counter left. How will he react when he get's caught by a punch he doesn't see coming? His chin hasn't been tested yet. 3) Against both Ouma and Rosado, GGG began showing signs of exhaustion starting in the 5th round; I actually scored the 5th round for Rosado. In the Ouma fight, by the last two or three rounds GGG looked too tired to keep his gloves up and was getting hit at will; Ouma was likewise exhausted and that's why he was stopped. GGG definitely seems to have stamina issues mostly because he's only had 1 fight go near the full ten. The vast majority of his fights have gone under 5 rounds. Sergio has proven 12 round stamina and is known to finish strong in the championship rounds. If Sergio isn't stopped within the first 5-7 rounds, it could turn into a very uphill battle for GGG.

Darren Barker didn't cut off the ring at all, he shelled up and forced Sergio to initiate the action; something that frustrated him initially as he is generally used to countering his opponents as their coming in. Sergio made the necessary adjustments and stopped Barker with a right hook through Barker's guard. I actually believe Golovkin's style suits Sergio more. The GGG hype is insane now with people just dismissing Sergio so brazenly. He'll walk Golovkin onto some wicked counters. We'll see how Golovkin's face and chin hold up. He wont be as defensively responsible as Barker or Martin Murray were for example. A healthy Sergio is a huge step up in class for GGG.

Motherf*cking Darren Barker cut off the ring on Sergio when people were claiming he should be p4p #1. Golovkin is 5x the fighter at cutting the ring that Darren Barker will probably ever be. Darren Barker didn't cut off the ring at all, he shelled up and forced Sergio to initiate the action; something that frustrated him initially as he is generally used to countering his opponents as they're coming in. Sergio made the necessary adjustments and stopped Barker with a right hook through Barker's guard.

lol they are fighting Canelo and Rios with their last fights being Marquez (which is a good fight but a KO loss) and Guerrero... What's your point? Are you trying to say these guys are the same level as someone like Darren Barker was operating at when Sergio fought him? The equivalent would be Floyd fighting Kell Brook.

Proksa was terribly overrated (went 20 rounds with Kerry Hope; Barker went 4) and neither can deliver the power a Sergio left hand can. I'd still like to see someone check GGG's chin. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8PZO0RCAAAkJWQ.jpg:large 1) A healthy and 100% Sergio has some of the best footwork in the sport, Golovkin would definitely have more trouble cutting the ring on Sergio than he did against Rosado. 2) Sergio's power with the overhand left and right hook could also make him think twice about coming in (assuming he's healthy & doesn't break his hand). 3) Sergio also has 12 round stamina and always finishes strong in the championship rounds; Golovkin looked exhausted by the 5th-6th round against both Rosado and Ouma. Motherf*cking Darren Barker cut off the ring on Sergio when people were claiming he should be p4p #1. Golovkin is 5x the fighter at cutting the ring that Darren Barker will probably ever be.

Floyd no, GGG, now that's another thing entirely.

I'd bet my all my points if a GGG vs PRIME Martinez happened.

a 100% healthy Martinez would give GGG a competitive fight. But i guess he would break his hands anyway. Last time i saw Sergio throwing a decent left power punch, was the Macklin fight.

Proksa was terribly overrated (went 20 rounds with Kerry Hope; Barker went 4) and neither can deliver the power a Sergio left hand can. I'd still like to see someone check GGG's chin. http://pic.twitter.com/KCmWFxdL 1) A healthy and 100% Sergio has some of the best footwork in the sport, Golovkin would definitely have more trouble cutting the ring on Sergio than he did against Rosado. 2) Sergio's power with the overhand left and right hook could also make him think twice about coming in (assuming he's healthy & doesn't break his hand). 3) Sergio also has 12 round stamina and always finishes strong in the championship rounds; Golovkin looked exhausted by the 5th-6th round against both Rosado and Ouma. 1) His footwork also causes him to get knocked down fairly often. 2) Golovkin has been shown to continue stalking even when hit flush. 3) Golovkin looked fine against Rosado and was sick 2 days before the fight. Against Ouma that was a war and it lasted longer than 6 rounds, Golovkin also did not eat or drink properly 2 days before the fight as he had to sleep in the airport because of visa issues. In both these situations Golovkin wasn't even close to his best. His stamina looked fine vs Ouma, especially considering how much of a war the fight was.

just like andre ward stated "but until someone can dominate or beat martinez" he is still #1. Can't break it down any better then that. lets make one thing clear ward said until someone beat him he is still number one at 160lbs everyone he said floyd is number one p4p martinez cant see floyd

In 355 amateur fights he's never been dropped. And yes he fought guys who can punch Proksa and Macklin both have very good power Proksa was terribly overrated (went 20 rounds with Kerry Hope; Barker went 4) and neither can deliver the power a Sergio left hand can. I'd still like to see someone check GGG's chin. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A8PZO0RCAAAkJWQ.jpg:large 1) A healthy and 100% Sergio has some of the best footwork in the sport, Golovkin would definitely have more trouble cutting the ring on Sergio than he did against Rosado. 2) Sergio's power with the overhand left and right hook could also make him think twice about coming in (assuming he's healthy & doesn't break his hand). 3) Sergio also has 12 round stamina and always finishes strong in the championship rounds; Golovkin looked exhausted by the 5th-6th round against both Rosado and Ouma.

In 355 amateur fights he's never been dropped. And yes he fought guys who can punch Proksa and Macklin both have very good power Hahahaha Proksa...Power? and macklin has a decent MW punch

If Mayweather, Pacquiao or Ward fought guys like Darren Barker or Martin Murray, there would be outrage. lol they are fighting Canelo and Rios with their last fights being Marquez (which is a good fight but a KO loss) and Guerrero...