Gatti, Baldomir and Golovkin. Fightnight weights

Floyd: If Golovkin wants to fight me at 147 like Baldomir did then he can get it. Q: *crickets* He was a 0 time SWW champ when he fought Baldo, right. Now he's 2x SWW champ, about the be unified, "lineal". How's that not fair game for anyone that can make 154?

Q: Now that you've beaten Canelo, are you going to fight Golovkin next? Floyd: No. Golovkin is to big even at 154. Q: Howcome Golovkin is to big when he doesn't rehydrate to more than your previous opponents Baldomir and Gatti (and Canelo)? Floyd: If Golovkin wants to fight me at 147 like Baldomir did then he can get it. Q: *crickets*

The point is that Floyds alleged weight disadvantage in a Golovkin fight is the same as in the fights with Gatti and Baldomir (and Canelo). So what I'm saying is that weight is not a proper excuse to avoid a Golovkin fight. It would be much better if Floyd stans like yourself came clean and said that Golovkin presents too much danger for Floyd at this point in his career. To say something like that would be to display a lack of boxing knowledge. What danger does he possess? It puzzles me when people think irrationally and with emotion over logic, styles and physical strengths and weaknesses aside, Floyd is the more gifted, intelligent, and experienced in the ring, when people constantly bring up every other fighter in desperation and make claims as to how or why they could beat Floyd, they only show their ignorance of the sport. "floyd stans" are generally ignorant and illogical as well, the problem is that most of us who appreciate and acknowledge the gap he has above other current fighters aren't "floyd stans" we are fans of the sport, and we recognize Floyd as the best in the sport. Big difference. Any fighter stands a punchers chance against any other fighter, but beyond that most emotional fans get lost in the mist. It's also obvious who is a true fan of the sport and who only wants to see people they despise lose to make themselves feel better, hard to enjoy a sport when all that's on your mind is malice on another fighter you think deserves to lose or is not as good as he actually is. And Floyd is vastly overrated by people today, he won't even sniff the top ten of all time, but the fact remains that he is the best boxer today by a significant margin, and when people bring up fighters who haven't even earned that payday shot and say things like "oh, he's a threat floyd is ducking him", it's just ridiculous. It's casual fan talk.

What was Oscar's reason? And why not be consistent about it, why allow for Ortiz and skip for Marquez, where the fight night weight would have been of MUCH interest? There's wide 1 fight swings all the time. Peterson went up 8lbs after Ortiz, Bradley went up 10 after Pac, tons more. I'm not even saying Floyd's ever hit 160, I don't think he has. But I'm sure he's hit 155 or thereabouts. Either way, if you gonna be using weight as an excuse to either dodge eligible challengers (eg Sergio at 154) or impose a CW in a title unification (for the "lineal" belt!), you better step on that scale fight night, don't leave us guessing. Oscar just liked being in control just like Floyd does. Floyd has pretty much followed all of Oscar's steps into his diva-ish ways which is why it's no coincidence the "not being weighed" fiasco started immediately after that fight. My guess is he likely weighed himself for the Ortiz fight because that was around the time we had fools claiming he comes to the ring at 160 lbs.

Does anybody know the fight night weights for Gatti and Baldomir when they fought Floyd? How much did they gain from the weigh-in? What does that say about Golovkin as a future opponent for Floyd? Thanks. There's a GGG master thread. Also, why do people like you insist on discussing a fight that not only won't happen anytime soon, it may not happen at all. Unless discussing fantasy fights is trending lately.

Likely for the same reason Oscar did. And unless you consider that fight night weight to be fake then yes that is good enough for me. Unless there's a lost 5-10 lbs between the Ortiz fight and all of his other fights. Add the fact he was 148 lbs a month prior to the Guererro fight. Add the fact he's never weighed in more than 151 lbs for a fight. I think it's fair to assume a correlation. What was Oscar's reason? And why not be consistent about it, why allow for Ortiz and skip for Marquez, where the fight night weight would have been of MUCH interest? There's wide 1 fight swings all the time. Peterson went up 8lbs after Ortiz, Bradley went up 10 after Pac, tons more. I'm not even saying Floyd's ever hit 160, I don't think he has. But I'm sure he's hit 155 or thereabouts. Either way, if you gonna be using weight as an excuse to either dodge eligible challengers (eg Sergio at 154) or impose a CW in a title unification (for the "lineal" belt!), you better step on that scale fight night, don't leave us guessing.

Fight night weight is not always an indicator of size because some fighters put on a lot of water weight when they rehydrate after the weigh in and others don't. For example Ortiz rehydrated to 164 against Floyd while Martinez rehydrated to 167 against Barker. Are they the same size? You would think that would be obvious.

Fight night weight is not always an indicator of size because some fighters put on a lot of water weight when they rehydrate after the weigh in and others don't. For example Ortiz rehydrated to 164 against Floyd while Martinez rehydrated to 167 against Barker. Are they the same size?

Golovkin needs to be fighting Middleweights just like he did with Macklin. Hopefully Sergio Martinez, Daniel Geale, and guys in his weight class fight him. I think Golovkin should focus on getting Martinez and if he wins that make his way to 168 and have a legit opponent for Ward at 168. If he wants Mayweather, move to 154.

Please. The guy has 1 fight night figure since 2007, and this is good enough for you ? If you're desperate to believe the narrative. Why refuse fight night weighin habitually, if there's nothing to hide? Who does that? Mostly guys like Chavez Jr. Not that Floyd is like him, but he's highly insecure and has put on ridiculous statements regarding his fight night weight Likely for the same reason Oscar did. And unless you consider that fight night weight to be fake then yes that is good enough for me. Unless there's a lost 5-10 lbs between the Ortiz fight and all of his other fights. Add the fact he was 148 lbs a month prior to the Guererro fight. Add the fact he's never weighed in more than 151 lbs for a fight. I think it's fair to assume a correlation.

JMM was paid a huge amount for complying. I cant believe you think its fair when one fighter fail to live up to the contracted weight. Floyd couldnt drop even two measly lbs. But hey Floyd is a small WW. LMAO. He's not a small WW but he's certainly an average sized WW. Small in comparison to the majority of WW's by today's standards.

Let me reiterate the point of this thread by making up an interview with Floyd as it could happen a few months from now: Q: Now that you've beaten Canelo, are you going to fight Golovkin next? Floyd: No. Golovkin is to big even at 154. Q: Howcome Golovkin is to big when he doesn't rehydrate to more than your previous opponents Baldomir and Gatti (and Canelo)? Floyd: Yeah you are right. The real reason that I dont want to fight him is XXXXXXXXXXXXXX. The answer I'm looking for is what these X'es stand for. Feel free to give a take. You don't need to reiterate the point of the thread with a made up interview. I know the point of the thread and responded to it. If Golovkin is serious about being considered an opponent for Mayweather he should move down to 154 and make noise there. The chances of that are slim considering he hasn't weighed under 160 lbs in I don't know how long and if I recall correctly has never weighed under 160 as a pro. In regards to the weight, I was responding and refuting the idea that Mayweather is bigger now than he was in 2006. There is nothing to sugges that, and again, the scales support it.

And yet Floyd as a JMW champion fights for a JMW belt at a CW! Matthysse has to move all the way up to 147. No CW for him! The 'fairness' guy strikes again! Doublestandards a'plenty. floyd won both his titles at JMW at 154 lbs. How would fighting Matts at 147 be different? floyd is defending his JMW title in a unification fight against a guy who won his JMW title at a CW. how is it a double standard?

And yet Floyd as a JMW champion fights for a JMW belt at a CW! Matthysse has to move all the way up to 147. No CW for him! The 'fairness' guy strikes again! Doublestandards a'plenty. Again Floyd didn't call Canelo out.

Again if Matthyse wants it he can come to 147. Period. And yet Floyd as a JMW champion fights for a JMW belt at a CW! Matthysse has to move all the way up to 147. No CW for him! The 'fairness' guy strikes again! Doublestandards a'plenty.

Two lbs? Like Canelo? . :tool: JMM looked like the Pillsbury doughboy. Floyd, who you claim is a small WW, couldn't even drop 2 lbs. :chairshot Canelo should have been forced to come to 147. He's lucky Floyd granted him the extra pounds.

Two lbs? Like Canelo? . :tool: JMM looked like the Pillsbury doughboy. Floyd, who you claim is a small WW, couldn't even drop 2 lbs. :chairshot Did May call out JMM? If you're calling ppl out then be ready to fight them in their division.

So you are saying that Floyd wouldn't mind fighting GGG, but network politics prohibits it. That's ok with me; Floyd wants it, but Will not leave Showtime for it. Let's talk Matthysse then. You claim Floyd is a small WW. Dó you think Floyd will fight Matthysse and at what weight? Surely a CW would be fair right? I'm not saying its just politics there are other reasons too. Its like you keep leaving out things and are trying to zero in on if floyd wants to fight ggg or not. why would floyd be thinking about fighting a MW who isn't the best in the world or the lineal champion? I have never said floyd was a small ww. please don't lie or make things up. He will probably fight matts at 147 if he beats garcia. I don't think there will be a cw.

So you are saying that Floyd wouldn't mind fighting GGG, but network politics prohibits it. That's ok with me; Floyd wants it, but Will not leave Showtime for it. Let's talk Matthysse then. You claim Floyd is a small WW. Dó you think Floyd will fight Matthysse and at what weight? Surely a CW would be fair right? Again if Matthyse wants it he can come to 147. Period.

Floyd came out of retirement for that fight. Plus JMM didn't get drained. Floyd had a whopping two pound advantage on him. Stop crying. Two lbs? Like Canelo? . :tool: JMM looked like the Pillsbury doughboy. Floyd, who you claim is a small WW, couldn't even drop 2 lbs. :chairshot