BOXING: Fury fights backTYSON FURY insists he is ready to fight David Haye, despite his rival claiming that the Manchester brawler is ducking their £10m clash.
Haye reckons that unbeaten Fury, 24, will not sign the contract to meet him in one of the biggest ever domestic heavyweight battles at Manchester Arena on September 28.
Former WBA heavyweight champ Haye, 32, tweeted: “I did everything in my power to get Fury in the ring. Even gifting him a 50/50 split. But Big Chump won’t sign contract 4 the fans #AllTalk.”
Fury’s camp are shocked at the outburst and say they are waiting for Londoner Haye to sign the deal before their deadline this weekend. Click Here To Read More]
Thanks for the kind words, and that's fair enough - each man to his own. I you like what you see from the Klitschkos then all the power to you. I don't dislike either one really, I just don't find them very interesting. It's their fans that do it for me. In fact, both of them seem like cool guys.
To your point, I don't envisage this being a particularly hard fight for Haye. I can't see Fury handle an aggressive Haye, which is the one I'm fully expecting to come on the night. The overhand right is not really a punch Haye throws that much. Hasn't really thrown it since Mormeck if I remember correctly. I expect his jab-straight right to be the key here. Fury's lack of defense and poor pawing jab won't be enough to stop Haye like Wlad's did for example.
I expect Haye to finish him inside 5 rounds. With regards to Wlad, I really can't see Haye beating him unless he goes down hill over the next couple of fights. He's too good, too big, too strong. But there's no shame in that, Wlad is two weight classes above Haye. He tried once and failed obviously, but I'm not even sure that the public wants to see it again. I'm sure Wlad will offer Haye a rematch after a couple of wins though.
In total agreement, for once!
Aside from the Vitali comment, spot on.
I don't comment much in here, but I have to say, while I completely disagree with your evaluation of the Klitschko's, your evaluation of this HW era in general, and to a lesser extent your evaluation of Haye, you generally give well reasoned and logically consistent arguments. I'd have to call you the winner on most of the arguments in this thread, re: Haye's choice of opponents etc.
However, Fury's chances are underestimated for this fight. Haye should be the favorite, yes, but I won't be at all surprised if Fury fights fairly disciplined, avoids the overhand right, and uses the size that Haye has always struggled with to break down and ko Haye. If that happens, I'll be very interested in your reaction at that stage. Will you go immediately to "he's going to beat Wlad" or will you delegitimize the victory to prepare for the likelihood that he then gets beat by WK? Personally, on my side, I'm open to reevaluation of Haye if he beats Fury. if Haye wins, he will go up dramatically in my estimation. I have him at a very weak and debatable #3 right now, but I've never believed he warrants another match with a K at this point and I believe several other top 10 HW's would beat him (weak # 3 because while I don't think he'd beat all the top 10's below the K's, he'd beat more of them then the one's who would beat him). If he wins, I'll make him a strong #3, and will definitely allow that he has earned another title shot.
Of course, this is all assuming the fight gets made. Based on his tweets, Fury does appear to be pricing himself out, which is disappointing and absurd, its probably as much or more than he'd get for a title shot, with lesser risk. Props to Haye, who, per above, I dislike and believe somewhat overrated, for being willing to go to 50/50 with a lesser draw to get an intriguing fight made.
Thanks for the kind words, and that's fair enough - each man to his own. I you like what you see from the Klitschkos then all the power to you. I don't dislike either one really, I just don't find them very interesting. It's their fans that do it for me. In fact, both of them seem like cool guys.
To your point, I don't envisage this being a particularly hard fight for Haye. I can't see Fury handle an aggressive Haye, which is the one I'm fully expecting to come on the night. The overhand right is not really a punch Haye throws that much. Hasn't really thrown it since Mormeck if I remember correctly. I expect his jab-straight right to be the key here. Fury's lack of defense and poor pawing jab won't be enough to stop Haye like Wlad's did for example.
I expect Haye to finish him inside 5 rounds. With regards to Wlad, I really can't see Haye beating him unless he goes down hill over the next couple of fights. He's too good, too big, too strong. But there's no shame in that, Wlad is two weight classes above Haye. He tried once and failed obviously, but I'm not even sure that the public wants to see it again. I'm sure Wlad will offer Haye a rematch after a couple of wins though.
Vitali is a whole other story altogether though. At this stage in his career, I think Haye takes him tbh. He hasn't looked good since the Adamek fight I think. We couldn't judge him off the Solis fight. But he doesn't want it for whatever reason. And all the power to him.
Fury has beaten Chisora and Cunningham. People are going to be in for a big shock. This won't be anywhere near as easy for Haye as people think. Fury might even pull off an upset.
I agree! fury is a good fight! This will be not an easy fight for both!
Haye and Booth must have fallen off their Penthouse designer chairs and spilt Bollinger, Truffles and Caviar everyhere when Tyson asked for that 80:20 deal...
Read the definition of that duck before you comment please.
I don't comment much in here, but I have to say, while I completely disagree with your evaluation of the Klitschko's, your evaluation of this HW era in general, and to a lesser extent your evaluation of Haye, you generally give well reasoned and logically consistent arguments. I'd have to call you the winner on most of the arguments in this thread, re: Haye's choice of opponents etc.
However, Fury's chances are underestimated for this fight. Haye should be the favorite, yes, but I won't be at all surprised if Fury fights fairly disciplined, avoids the overhand right, and uses the size that Haye has always struggled with to break down and ko Haye. If that happens, I'll be very interested in your reaction at that stage. Will you go immediately to "he's going to beat Wlad" or will you delegitimize the victory to prepare for the likelihood that he then gets beat by WK? Personally, on my side, I'm open to reevaluation of Haye if he beats Fury. if Haye wins, he will go up dramatically in my estimation. I have him at a very weak and debatable #3 right now, but I've never believed he warrants another match with a K at this point and I believe several other top 10 HW's would beat him (weak # 3 because while I don't think he'd beat all the top 10's below the K's, he'd beat more of them then the one's who would beat him). If he wins, I'll make him a strong #3, and will definitely allow that he has earned another title shot.
Of course, this is all assuming the fight gets made. Based on his tweets, Fury does appear to be pricing himself out, which is disappointing and absurd, its probably as much or more than he'd get for a title shot, with lesser risk. Props to Haye, who, per above, I dislike and believe somewhat overrated, for being willing to go to 50/50 with a lesser draw to get an intriguing fight made.
I see a bunch of babbling on Fury's side.....but none of it says that they will accept the 50/50 split that David Haye suggested. PLUS they stated they are ready to move on if not signed by a specific date.
Fury is not serious about the fight.
David Haye is good at calling out people but he's not good at answering people when they call him out ;)
James Toney would even knock Haye out after all a shot past it fighter like Carl Thompson did it :lol1::lol1::lol1:
Lol doesn't Toney call out the k bros every week?
Just to let you know I will be there If/When that happens ;)
I wouldn't doubt that for one second. Since I was specifically thinking of you when I wrote it.
Where is Wienerschnitzel by the way? Anybody heard from him? I'm starting to miss the poor guy.
So most of the contenders are ducking him? Have you ever thought they are ducking Haye as well? Not because they are scared or anything, but because it's high-risk, low reward.
Like pulev, who was offered a shot, turned it down for a fight against Fury for the final eliminator. Fury obviously dropped out for whatever reason, but can you see it wouldn't make sense for Pulev to fight Haye?
Btw, nobody is ducking Wlad, he should just pay them more than £100.000 like he did Chisora.
Source please.
Ducked Haye BTW. Lol. You must be joking.
This is the first time I Can recall, where you can not only safely predict the winner by KO as Well as the punch that will end the fight. Fury has been down hard from overhand rights which just happens to be Haye's moneypunch.
So this is the end of Fury sadly, but I Will enjoy the buildup immensly.
Peter Fury on Twitter: "Me & Tyson sat back few days to see the response on the 80/20. Some fools just believe anything they read. & Tyson taking the piss Royale Lol"
Hahaha you gotta like them. Playing everyone.
Haha, just like when we thought they'd fight Pulev
Peter Fury on Twitter: "Me & Tyson sat back few days to see the response on the 80/20. Some fools just believe anything they read. & Tyson taking the piss Royale Lol"
Hahaha you gotta like them. Playing everyone.
Your statement is he is more entertaining than Mayweather - so my point is what do you call entertaining his recent Heavyweight antics or his out of the ring antics and then you threw in his mediocre opponents so I think it was you changing the subject. - So I question your agenda.