Riddick Bowe Punished in Muay Thai Debut

I sure can tell, you havent trained neither boxing or thai box. Every person who at least trained for few years and knows more just basics would laugh at this fairy tail 3 months of boxing and 4 months of muay-thai behind my shoulders :boxing: edit: I admit I can't know if you trained or not - but the post remains the same. Bring it on friend) I actually trained longer than you in both sports. I never had any competitive bouts in Muay Thai but I trained there for about a year. The Muay Thai gym is Planet Combat, you can check out the website if you want? They do Muay Thai, MMA, fitness classes etc but it is best for just Muay Thai as this is what Karen and Howard are both experts in. Karen has had one (maybe more now) MMA fight but it was against another Thai Boxer so it was just stand up Muay Thai but in a cage! She won btw. Undefeated in Muay Thai and MMA lol. But yeah I like Boxing a whole lot more than Muay Thai and trained in Boxing for a few years (since about 14 I think). So you can think that every1 who ever says anything about themselves online is a lie or you can think that there may actually be people on a boxing forum who have you know.... boxed!

I have trained both in Muay Thai and Boxing, I trained in boxing much longer than Muay Thai though. The Muay Thai gym I was at is home of a 3 time womans world champ, undefeated, Karen Ousey and her Husband, former British Champ Howard Hughes. Sparred with Karen a few times (we are the same weight roughly) and some domestic champs and while it is tough I find the Muay Thai guys are very easy to hit and focus more on offense than defense making them susceptible to the jab and the way their footing is, they struggle against lots of movement as they have a more plodding style. I sure can tell, you havent trained neither boxing or thai box. Every person who at least trained for few years and knows more just basics would laugh at this fairy tail 3 months of boxing and 4 months of muay-thai behind my shoulders :boxing: edit: I admit I can't know if you trained or not - but the post remains the same. Bring it on friend)

Yeah it is more brutal... I won't deny that! But it is only brutal in the same sense as in boxing.... if you go toe to toe! If you stand and trade then it really does become a hard man contest with knees, elbows etc, but these are only useful up close.... but I found that the Thai boxers are not used to facing someone with fast foot speed and movement on the outside.... if you watch Thai fighters, they spend a lot of time midrange feinting... when they go up against someone who boxes from the outside with footspeed, I found they can't really cut the ring off and they plod forward a lot because their footing has to be in a certain position before they can generate power into their kicks which makes for a very rigid stance. Also I found a lot of the time they are focusing on the oppositions legs, looking out for kicks to defend against rather than punches... as the majority of their outside fighting/mid range fighting is kicks, they don't do so well looking out for solid jabs and straight rights....... I never faced a thai boxer with a decent jab. I found most times I would outbox the thai boxer but if you do get kicked hard then it hurts 10x more than a punch and I will admit to going down against Karen a couple of times with straight kicks to the mid section.... but hey that's life! Wow! Great insight, man! Thanks for taking the time to share!

Interesting. What about the use of shins and elbows in Muay Thai? Don't you feel that it makes for a more brutal sport? Yeah it is more brutal... I won't deny that! But it is only brutal in the same sense as in boxing.... if you go toe to toe! If you stand and trade then it really does become a hard man contest with knees, elbows etc, but these are only useful up close.... but I found that the Thai boxers are not used to facing someone with fast foot speed and movement on the outside.... if you watch Thai fighters, they spend a lot of time midrange feinting... when they go up against someone who boxes from the outside with footspeed, I found they can't really cut the ring off and they plod forward a lot because their footing has to be in a certain position before they can generate power into their kicks which makes for a very rigid stance. Also I found a lot of the time they are focusing on the oppositions legs, looking out for kicks to defend against rather than punches... as the majority of their outside fighting/mid range fighting is kicks, they don't do so well looking out for solid jabs and straight rights....... I never faced a thai boxer with a decent jab. I found most times I would outbox the thai boxer but if you do get kicked hard then it hurts 10x more than a punch and I will admit to going down against Karen a couple of times with straight kicks to the mid section.... but hey that's life!

I have trained both in Muay Thai and Boxing, I trained in boxing much longer than Muay Thai though. The Muay Thai gym I was at is home of a 3 time womans world champ, undefeated, Karen Ousey and her Husband, former British Champ Howard Hughes. Sparred with Karen a few times (we are the same weight roughly) and some domestic champs and while it is tough I find the Muay Thai guys are very easy to hit and focus more on offense than defense making them susceptible to the jab and the way their footing is, they struggle against lots of movement as they have a more plodding style. Interesting. What about the use of shins and elbows in Muay Thai? Don't you feel that it makes for a more brutal sport?

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Muay Thai has been referred to as "human cockfighting." It's serious business. I have trained both in Muay Thai and Boxing, I trained in boxing much longer than Muay Thai though. The Muay Thai gym I was at is home of a 3 time womans world champ, undefeated, Karen Ousey and her Husband, former British Champ Howard Hughes. Sparred with Karen a few times (we are the same weight roughly) and some domestic champs and while it is tough I find the Muay Thai guys are very easy to hit and focus more on offense than defense making them susceptible to the jab and the way their footing is, they struggle against lots of movement as they have a more plodding style.

don't see anything sad about it. he blew all his money on stupid sh1t, thats his fault for being a dumbass. I have no sympathy for stuff like that.

Muay Thai is no joke. This is one of the most brutal fights I've ever seen and the combatants are only 15 and 18 years old. Muay Thai has been referred to as "human cockfighting." It's serious business.

Man thats a sad interview, especially the bolded. Yeah, bro. The whole thing is sad. At least Bowe has the ability to make a couple of bucks if he needs to...even if it's as a circus clown. Reminds me of the classic film "Requiem for a Heavyweight."

Muay Thai is no joke. This is one of the most brutal fights I've ever seen and the combatants are only 15 and 18 years old. That was brutal! Those kids got some next level chins giving and taking all those elbows.

Muay Thai is no joke. This is one of the most brutal fights I've ever seen and the combatants are only 15 and 18 years old.

(Associated Press) PATTAYA, Thailand -- Wincing in pain and clutching his shins, Riddick Bowe ended his debut in Thai kickboxing with a thud in the second round. The 45-year-old former world heavyweight boxing champion came to a rude awakening on Friday that Muay Thai is just as punishing. "It's much harder than boxing," Bowe said after limping out of the ring. Bowe took a big beating from his 30-year-old Russian opponent Levgen Golovin, who assaulted the former champion with repeated kicks to the shins. Bowe lost his balance and fell five times before the bout was ended by technical knockout after his last fall. "You can recover from a head shot or a body shot, but when you get kicked in the leg it lasts a long time," he said. "My leg is still hurting. I don't know how long it's been -- 15 minutes?" Bowe's last boxing match was in 2008. He says he decided to try Muay Thai because he was bored with retirement and needs the cash. He made $150,000 from Friday's fight, organized by Thai promoters trying to increase the international appeal of Thailand's national sport. The bout was held at an outdoor ring set up beside the beach in Pattaya, a Thai town best known for its seaside red-light district. Bowe beat Evander Holyfield in 1992 to become the undisputed world heavyweight champion. Now weighing 300 pounds, Bowe was heavy and slow and barely landed a punch in Friday's fight. Despite the pain in his legs, Bowe smiled for the cameras after the fight and mustered some optimism. "I had a lot of fun. I'm going to do it again. Next time it's going to be different," he said. "I'll be back soon." Bowe's opponent shook his head in disbelief when told the aging boxer isn't giving up on Muay Thai. "It would be a big mistake. It's not for him," Golovin said. "He's too slow and a bit too old." http://a.espncdn.com/photo/2013/0614/mma_r_bowe_d1_400.jpg Man thats a sad interview, especially the bolded.