After Dawson was knocked down, Dawson tried to get up as soon as he could. At the count of 5, Dawson was already on his way up and was completely up after 6 almost 7 count. At that point, the ref counted up to 8 then asked Dawson if he was ready to continue .... Dawson was still out of it as far as being stable on his feet. Possibly even his eyes but I didn't get a chance to see that.
It must have been reactionary/instinctual but Chad should have waited a bit longer before attempting to get up. This way, he would have gotten an extra second or two since the ref would have gone higher than an 8 count before asking Dawson if he was ready to fight. Chad was also close to the ropes, he could have tried getting support while getting up but didn't.
Maybe it would not have made the difference but sometimes that is all you need to "look" OK to continue as far as the ref's standards are concerned.
Whats up with people saying dawson was out of, didnt know where he was etc? Thats clearly not the case. Im not saying it should have continued, certainly not saying he wasnt hurt. But he clearly knew where he was at and what had happened, his legs juat werent cooperating with him.
How he got up wouldnt have changed that btw, not in this case. The mistake he did was not showing proper respect for stevenson and his power. Walking into stevensons range with his hands low, trying to do too much too soon without feeling out his oponent first and figure out the right approach.
good post!!! :fing02:
Chad's only mistake was starting off like he was the puncher in the fight....thats all!!
Whats up with people saying dawson was out of, didnt know where he was etc? Thats clearly not the case. Im not saying it should have continued, certainly not saying he wasnt hurt. But he clearly knew where he was at and what had happened, his legs juat werent cooperating with him.
How he got up wouldnt have changed that btw, not in this case. The mistake he did was not showing proper respect for stevenson and his power. Walking into stevensons range with his hands low, trying to do too much too soon without feeling out his oponent first and figure out the right approach.
I predicted Stevenson to KO Chad, and I think Dawson will be stopped many more times if he chooses to continue his career for long. It started with Miranda putting him down in the gym, then the Ward and Stevenson fights. His punch resistance will never be the same like RJJ after Tarver 2.
No seriously, I think he got up n was looking around for the car he thought he just got hit by n realized he was in a boxing fight in Canada
Looked more like bullying to me, Chad got pimp slapped.
lol ...true ..... except he was no longer in a boxing fight since it was over ...... you can say "until he realized he just lost a boxing fight in Canada."
No seriously, I think he got up n was looking around for the car he thought he just got hit by n realized he was in a boxing fight in Canada
2-3 extra seconds on the canvas wouldn't of made a difference, he was severely dazed and could barely stand up straight... Even if the ref let it continue, he would of been annhilated.
It doesn't matter how legitimate a stoppage was, SOMEBODY will always say they should have been allowed to continue. Anyone who thinks this fight was stopped early is a disgrace to boxing, Dawson was done. I'm glad some of you aren't referees, otherwise half the fighters you purport to love would be eating through a straw.
Peterson and Dawson were completely different knocked downs..I thought Peterson was still in in somewhat but Dawson was completely gone..you could see it in his eyes.
They both had no legs/no balance and were badly hurt. Peterson was done after the 2nd KD. He just got another chance from the ref and Dawson didn't. If the ref let the Dawson fight continue, it would've been stopped shortly after as well. Not really that much difference.
Good video clip: Has mix of Dawson's comments then the KO.
Dawson said,
- "He is just a stepping stone"
- "He is just a fighter to make me look good"
- "He is no Glen Johnson, ... I have beaten great fighters .... I just don't see it"
- "I'm a big 175 fighter ... BIG! He is going to look tiny"
I think a lot of refs may have let Chad continue but it would have delayed the inevitable and allowed for a brutal KO finish...
I would have had Chad try and walk to me before waving the fight off...
Chad looked confident the way he started the fight, he was going toe-to-toe with Adonis and blow for blow in the center of the ring, he just got caught cold...
After Chad got clobbered, he got up n thought he was back at home in connecuit til he realized he was in a boxing fight in Canada. Poor guy. Smh
lol ...true ..... except he was no longer in a boxing fight since it was over ...... you can say "until he realized he just lost a boxing fight in Canada."
Interesting outlook. Chad did get up really quick because he couldn't move for the first few seconds and then all of a sudden he was on his feet. I don't think it would have made any difference but who knows. Dawson was no more hurt than Peterson was against Matthysse. They both were off balance and really disoriented. However, Peterson was able to put his gloves up when the ref asked. Chad had problems doing that. Maybe with a few extra seconds he could've cleared his head. I think the ref just saved Dawson from taking a few extra shots to the head. The stoppage was inevitable.
Peterson and Dawson were completely different knocked downs..I thought Peterson was still in in somewhat but Dawson was completely gone..you could see it in his eyes.
Chad was out, he wasn't even there, so he didn't think about "getting support from the ropes". He was badly injured in that moment and he didn't have his legs. The moment he went down and how he reacted I thought he won't beat the count. It reminded me of Thompson vs David Price - if a fighter goes down so hard, it is over. I remember thinking in my head that if the ref lets Dawson continue he should be charged with murder.
True Chad was out of it and I agree at the point of the stoppage, the ref made the right call. Still, there have been fighters in worse condition try to use the ropes for support and some realize that they should take their time to get up.
Chad got up with little problem but he was not all there and it showed. His legs were not there.
Me too, I thought that Dawson was not going to get up in time but then when I saw him jump up so fast I was surprised.
Sometimes all you need is a few more seconds and your head/body reacts differently. As I stated already, perhaps it would not make a difference but Chad made a mistake trying to get up so soon.
Dawson was done. He could have stayed down for 9 and half seconds and he still wouldn't have been fit to continue.
Sometimes, you just get knocked the fuck out, that's boxing, not much you can do about it.