Okay, let's say he takes off his shoes, clothes, and jewelry...let's take away like 5lbs. Still a lot, compared to Lara who went up only 10lbs, let's take away 5lbs from Lara, that would be 5lbs.
No doubt 15 is a lot. We also don't know if Lara or Angulo stripped down, it could be only Lara did and it was less of a difference. Could be only Angulo did, and it was wider. Just saying, unlike the official weighin, there's no direct incentive to shed weight. There's the famous Clottey 170lb weighin with full clothes and jewelry
Is this the latest hot topic for Mayweather fanboys? :lol1:
I remember the years of "take da test!"
I remember Floyd and his fans saying "I only want it to be a fair fight"
but when it comes to Floyd gaining the advantages then "it's OK and normal that he tries to get all the advantages."
Same day weigh ins ended around 1983, ~30 years ago. A decade is 10 years and more then 1 decade = decades. Yes its water weight. Regain their strength from starving? How the hell does starving your self makes you stronger? :dunce:
Another post which makes no sense. Heavyweights dont have to "make weight", so what if they are walking around heavier, what relevance does this have to rehydration and weigh ins? Oh absolutely none
get up that obstacle boy!!!!
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Same day weigh ins ended around 1983, ~30 years ago. A decade is 10 years and more then 1 decade = decades. Yes its water weight. Regain their strength from starving? How the hell does starving your self makes you stronger? :dunce:
Another post which makes no sense. Heavyweights dont have to "make weight", so what if they are walking around heavier, what relevance does this have to rehydration and weigh ins? Oh absolutely nonesigh
you let me reel you in too easily.
"20 pounds is water weight" 20 pounds? whahahaha! water weight is something that you cut over night (being no higher then 8 pounds) we're talking about guys going up to their walking around weight (and down when training to make weight) & not everyone's body retains huge amounts of fluids to make an impact on the scales as "water weight" it really depends on that individual. water weight is nether here nore there for this discussion. it's a joke of a argument. i call it for what it is.......guys that go up 20 pounds + are going up to their natural weight. (the weight that they most likely walk around at)........do you actually think a fighter like broner walks around at 135? or rios walks around at 140 & just gains water weight? "they're gaining water weight" NO. they're gaining walk around weight..........much too easy.
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are you really debating how many years are in a decade? O.O you said dacadeS. with an "S" the mid 90's to 2000's is when this weight BS really kicked up. by those terms theres only been one decade (from 1983 to 1990) without same day weigh ins. and weight hydration in the 80's was so insignificant & minimal to the point of not even worth mentioning........wtf
looking at my post you got confused.........i mentioned the heavyweights because the overall point was to compare weights of today vs the past. you are fooling yourself (or only started watching boxing in the last 10 years) if you think boxers (by any significant number) always re hydrated to 20 + pounds on fight night? anyone who has even a inch of knowledge about the sport knows that weight has gotten worse since cutting same day weigh ins. (not even same day weigh ins. guys were just more disciplined) now we're left at what we have today........guys fighting in divisions & blowing up no where near the division.
Same day weigh ins ended around 1983, ~30 years ago. A decade is 10 years and more then 1 decade = decades.
lol @ water weight..........
more like regaining their strength back from starving themselves down to a division thats not around their walking weight.
Yes its water weight. Regain their strength from starving? How the hell does starving your self makes you stronger? :dunce:
(heavyweight division)
thats the point.........theres no weight @ heavyweight today.......guys are are walking around 40 pounds heavier then what they should be. weight has gotten worse over the years in the sport.......
Another post which makes no sense. Heavyweights dont have to "make weight", so what if they are walking around heavier, what relevance does this have to rehydration and weigh ins? Oh absolutely none
Those figures might not be reliable. The guys could be wearing shoes, clothes and jewelry, if they want.That's true. The fighters are not weighed stipped down to their underpants the way they are for the real weigh in. They never tell you this because they like the shock value of the big weight gain. My guess is he put on about 17 pounds and that's still way to much weight to gain in 32 hours. Such a huge weight gain probably did him more harm than good.The human body was not designed to gain so much weight in such a short time. Until they return to same day weigh ins {probably never} some fighters will continue to gain large amounts of weight after the weigh in.
Angulo is on some sort of banned substance like chavez jr. Imo cause he had unlimited stamina and a relentless attack like i never seen before. He used to get tired before after like the 5th or 6th round but last night he was gettin stronger every round, i was like wtf?! Doesnt he run out of batteries? Lmao
Fighters have been doing it for decades, what exactly has changed? It's not a secret the human body can cut water.
And what are you taking about with the heavyweights, they don't rehydrate at all, why would they cut weight when they have no limit. You obviously are really confused
looking at my post you got confused.........i mentioned the heavyweights because the overall point was to compare weights of today vs the past. you are fooling yourself (or only started watching boxing in the last 10 years) if you think boxers (by any significant number) always re hydrated to 20 + pounds on fight night? anyone who has even a inch of knowledge about the sport knows that weight has gotten worse since cutting same day weigh ins. (not even same day weigh ins. guys were just more disciplined) now we're left at what we have today........guys fighting in divisions & blowing up no where near the division.
lol @ water weight..........
more like regaining their strength back from starving themselves down to a division thats not around their walking weight.
(heavyweight division)
thats the point.........theres no weight @ heavyweight today.......guys are are walking around 40 pounds heavier then what they should be. weight has gotten worse over the years in the sport.......
Would this also include Gamboa?
Absolutely, I don't like it and have said that many times.
Not to mention it does Gamboa in particular more harm than good in my eye's.
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Originally Posted by Dominicano Soy
I like how everyone that steps on to the unofficial scales is either wearing chinchilla coats, boots with more chains than Mr.T.
Just shoes can add 4lbs. He may have change and a fat wallet on him, who knows. If he really cared, he'd have vetoed them from showing it, like Chavez Jr or Mayweather.
Who are yoy kidding? Me wearing a whole military uniform with steel toe boots only add on 10lbs... Y'all delusional man.
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If I ran boxing I would have weigh-ins within 6 hours before the fight, and decrease the number of weight classes to 8. Don't expect either of those things to happen any time soon, though.
dude you're fooling yourself if you think guys were blowing up (a significant amount) over 20 + pounds on fight night.
thats part of the reason why heavyweights are bigger today. most of these guys are fighting 30 pounds over their natural fighting weight. a guy like arreola should be fighting at 220. instead he comes in at 240 +
Fighters have been doing it for decades, what exactly has changed? It's not a secret the human body can cut water.
And what are you taking about with the heavyweights, they don't rehydrate at all, why would they cut weight when they have no limit. You obviously are really confused
It's been ridiculous for a while IMO.
Either get back to fight afternoon weigh in's or stick a 10lb rehydration max on it, that would also weed a lot of guys out of divisions that they dont really belong in.
Would this also include Gamboa?
And your spotin a Floyd set.
It's pretty well documented that Floyd enters the ring about twenty pounds above the actual welterweight limit.
Yes the day before weigh In rule was implemented about 30 years ago so yes decades
dude you're fooling yourself if you think guys were blowing up (a significant amount) over 20 + pounds on fight night.
thats part of the reason why heavyweights are bigger today. most of these guys are fighting 30 pounds over their natural fighting weight. a guy like arreola should be fighting at 220. instead he comes in at 240 +
broner
kirland
gamboa
What wins fights?weights or skills,Dont understand ts point. 3 new ones added to the list...........
angulo
love
canelo
donaire
trout
ortiz
chavez jr.
rios
broner
kirkland
gamboa
feel free to add more.............