What's killing boxing?

Additionally it's the quality of the fighters and the matches most commonly found on terrestrial programming. Would-be fans don't get to see the best of what boxing has to offer. Speaking in terms of the United States; ESPN level fights make the sport look bad in the eyes of your average sports fan... Or so I have been told by friends and colleagues who refuse to convert.

Boxing is producing more income than it ever has. While it's not getting as much US coverage as it used to its flourishing everywhere else. Though the bottom line is, is boxing losing money or making far less than it used to? The answer is an emphatic no. It's a bigger revenue source than ever before and is still the top combat sport in the states are probably the world....

Cheating Boring fighters Not enough exposure/coverage of the sport Promoter beef/Network beef Too many weight classes and belts Corruption in every aspect (judging, refs, commissions) Expensive PPVs this sums it all up

Ehm boxing is not getting killed? It's status and interest is growing in Europe and Asia. South america is also growing. So why do you say it's getting killed?

and Floyd Mayweather :rofl:Good stuff.

The #1 thing that is killing boxing is: no media coverage. ESPN doesn't bother reporting on exciting stories in boxing, even with fights as relevant and important and impressive as Peterson vs Matthysse. When a good fight happens in boxing, nobody knows it happened except people who are already fans of the sport. This is the biggest factor outside of all the fights being on premium channels with tiny audience compared to network television. The sport has become so hard to follow the media will rather just say it's dead/dying then have to put the time and effort into understanding how all the BS belts/promoters/television crap works.

Boxing is dying again eh? For the 7th decade now. hahahahahaha I say "ridiculous number of belts" is bad for the sport

The #1 thing that is killing boxing is: no media coverage. ESPN doesn't bother reporting on exciting stories in boxing, even with fights as relevant and important and impressive as Peterson vs Matthysse. When a good fight happens in boxing, nobody knows it happened except people who are already fans of the sport.

Rules not being enforced, look at all the great fights and you'll notice that none of them have any of the BS constant holding that is so widespread now and makes fights boring as hell. In fighting is basically extinct, jab, straight, hold and reset. ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ

Fans that have no respect for the sweet science, only being bias towards certain fighters. The sanctioning bodies that seem to bode bias towards certain fighters. The knowledge that ignorant fans seem to possess about what are skills and what is not. You are aware that none of what you said is what you could call a new occurrence, right? Things have been that way since way back, and probably always will be.

Is it the ridiculous number of belts? The boxing organizations themselves? Having too many weight classes? Corrupt refs/judges? All of the above? I think you and I are going to die first.

Honestly there are a lot of factors. I don't like the fact that once a fighter reaches the pinnacle of the sport it cost almost $80 to see him fight (Floyd and Manny). These two bring the most exposure to the sport. We need some freebies once in a while. It also hurts that there is no heavyweight superstar. Cold War between Golden Boy and Top Rank. This cost us the biggest fight of the decade and many other great fights (Donaire vs Mares). Bad judging- We had a fight party at my friends house for Pacman vs. Bradley. It was his 1st time watching/paying for a PPV event. No need to continue. Boxing is like the only sport dumb enough to rob the superstar. Too many belts and then some of the sanctioning bodies don't want unification bouts. But of course that only applies to some fighters. And that leads us to corruption. There's so much corruption in boxing its shameful. The judges, promoters, sanctioning bodies, dirty fighters etc.... this sums up everything. But Boxing is not dying. I'd say it is flourishing. Maybe injured but it shall live on for many years to come

To be fair those who follow certain amateurs into pro boxing can acquaint for certain fighters on a pro level. A great fcuking post though. Very true, but with those other sports we see the Under Armor & McDonald's high school All American games. We see nationally televised high school football and basketball games on espn2, espn & espnu. The little league world series and college world series tournaments. There's all sorts of avenues for other sports. The country followed a guy like Tim Tebow because they connected with the person, no matter how horrible his mechanics were. They got attached to him and rooted him on. Not saying boxing is dead or dying, just wanted to give my opinion on this topic, but the sport could market itself a little better with amateurs, as well as established pros.

I wouldn't say boxing is dying exactly but, as others have said, there are many factors as to why we aren't seeing the best fights possible on a consistent basis. For me it all comes back to greed.

Greed. Greedy promoters, greedy sanctioning bodies, greedy fighters.

Honestly there are a lot of factors. I don't like the fact that once a fighter reaches the pinnacle of the sport it cost almost $80 to see him fight (Floyd and Manny). These two bring the most exposure to the sport. We need some freebies once in a while. It also hurts that there is no heavyweight superstar. Cold War between Golden Boy and Top Rank. This cost us the biggest fight of the decade and many other great fights (Donaire vs Mares). Bad judging- We had a fight party at my friends house for Pacman vs. Bradley. It was his 1st time watching/paying for a PPV event. No need to continue. Boxing is like the only sport dumb enough to rob the superstar. Too many belts and then some of the sanctioning bodies don't want unification bouts. But of course that only applies to some fighters. And that leads us to corruption. There's so much corruption in boxing its shameful. The judges, promoters, sanctioning bodies, dirty fighters etc.... Bumped for how on point this is. On the too many belt issues, catchweights are one thing and understandable to the common fan. But there needs to be one, 1, uno, just ONE guy per division who you can point to and say "HEY THAT MOTHER-EFFER RIGHT THERE he's the G-damn man. I know that because he beat the guy who used to be the man", instead there are all these f'n belts and then we need unification bouts, etc. It's a headache. I love and follow boxing and have zero interest in caring who has what belt.

Boxing is dying again eh? For the 7th decade now.

Another aspect, outside of the ones already mentioned, is the fact that there's no personal attachment from their amateur days. In football, basketball and baseball we see guys from high school on espn here in America. We watch them play on national tv and see the "love for the game" mentality that they bring to the table. It's not prospects or future first round picks negotiating the terms. We follow them, know their backstory and keep tabs on them in the pros. In boxing we get home of that. Corruption in the amateurs is a part of it. No national coverage of the world championships or pan am games to go with it. To top it off, we really don't know who these guys are til we see them fight a household name, which is very minimal nowadays To be fair those who follow certain amateurs into pro boxing can acquaint for certain fighters on a pro level. A great fcuking post though.

Another aspect, outside of the ones already mentioned, is the fact that there's no personal attachment from their amateur days. In football, basketball and baseball we see guys from high school on espn here in America. We watch them play on national tv and see the "love for the game" mentality that they bring to the table. It's not prospects or future first round picks negotiating the terms. We follow them, know their backstory and keep tabs on them in the pros. In boxing we get home of that. Corruption in the amateurs is a part of it. No national coverage of the world championships or pan am games to go with it. To top it off, we really don't know who these guys are til we see them fight a household name, which is very minimal nowadays

The question is how to fix it? **** trickles from the top down on to the most deserving- up and comers, prospects, and eventually ends up on the fans.