The junior middle limit - reality

Straight from the mouth of Dan Rafael - Somewhat. However, the Mayweather camp told me that Alvarez's side offered the catch weight, obviously as a way to ensure they would get the fight. What was Floyd supposed to do? Say no? I mean he could have and I would have liked that but he is also a businessman. If somebody hands you an advantage you usually dont say no. That said, if he truly believed what he has preached about catch weights, he should have said no, let's do the contract at the championship weight of 154, the same way I did when I fought Cotto and Oscar.

As implied above there is a rigorous definition to the word limit and you seem to have the wrong idea of what it means. A correct statement would be that 152 is within the jr middleweight limit, but the division is bounded from above by 154 lbs. This is a legit fight but it leaves room for criticism because of the catch weight. Floyd is hypocritical but who here really believes he is a principled man with integrity? By "he" here, are you addressing Floyd or fellow posters and readers? Such clarity would affect the responses you get to your post, methinks. P34c3

The weight limit for the boxing class is 148-154 lbs. Anything that falls between 148 lb and 154 lbs is the super welterweight limit. Please respect all fighter that are dedicated to make this weight and don't blow it on the scales. Please respect all fighters if fighter (a) weights 148 lbs and fighter (b) weights 152 lbs....this is still within the junior middle division. This has been the rules for this particular weight class since 1962.....1962. We must all learn to live with this and respect it. As implied above there is a rigorous definition to the word limit and you seem to have the wrong idea of what it means. A correct statement would be that 152 is within the jr middleweight limit, but the division is bounded from above by 154 lbs. This is a legit fight but it leaves room for criticism because of the catch weight. Floyd is hypocritical but who here really believes he is a principled man with integrity?

When has a fight ever been made and you not complain? No matter whos fighting. You complained about the Peterson vs Matthysse at 141. You complained about the Lara fight. Your always all over Floyd. STFU focking baby. Your one of those that would rather talk sh1t than watch a great fight. Once the Garcia vs Matthysse fight gets made you'll be crying about that **** too. Shut the **** up. You sound mad? Are you mad bro? Do you need a hug? http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/107/432/i_hug_that_feel.png

The weight limit for the boxing class is 148-154 lbs. Anything that falls between 148 lb and 154 lbs is the super welterweight limit. Please respect all fighter that are dedicated to make this weight and don't blow it on the scales. Please respect all fighters if fighter (a) weights 148 lbs and fighter (b) weights 152 lbs....this is still within the junior middle division. This has been the rules for this particular weight class since 1962..... 1962. We must all learn to live with this and respect it. tell us you feel about the Cotto Manny fight. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

The weight limit for the boxing class is 148-154 lbs. Anything that falls between 148 lb and 154 lbs is the super welterweight limit. Please respect all fighter that are dedicated to make this weight and don't blow it on the scales. Please respect all fighters if fighter (a) weights 148 lbs and fighter (b) weights 152 lbs....this is still within the junior middle division. This has been the rules for this particular weight class since 1962.....1962. We must all learn to live with this and respect it. Right so does that justifies Mayweather saying 153lbs or 154lbs isn't jr middleweight for the Canelo Alvarez fight?

That's fine. Come in at any weight within that range. The issue here is that the weight has been capped at 152lbs. People say that 2lbs is nothing......if it's nothing then why bother? And if you cannot determine what you want or is mutually comfortable for yourselves within that range, why put the range there? So, your assertion goes both ways, dawg. P34c3

It's hilarious seeing people who've done nothing but berate Pac for his catchweights.... only to go around and defend May when he does it. And don't say it doesn't count because that's what Canelo brought to him. HE wanted it at 147 and then 150

Good god the Floyd fanboys are pathetic. They've had their moments in the past, but this is a new low.

you know what else is reality??? Cherrypicker said he wants the guys that he fights to be at their most comfortable weight ... And Canelo previously called out Floyd @ 150...and is now saying - emphatically - that he's comfortable fighting Floyd @ 152, as negotiated. So what, exactly, is your problem? Why are you being holier than the Pope? Why don't you just be reasonable with your mind so you stand a better chance of living a healthier - and longer - life in this world, assuming you so desire? Why don't you just let go, and prepare to enjoy what you enjoy? P34c3

http://sphotos.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/537309_10150779020037953_550377952_11390692_1102456518_n.jpg When has a fight ever been made and you not complain? No matter whos fighting. You complained about the Peterson vs Matthysse at 141. You complained about the Lara fight. Your always all over Floyd. STFU focking baby. Your one of those that would rather talk sh1t than watch a great fight. Once the Garcia vs Matthysse fight gets made you'll be crying about that **** too. Shut the **** up.

the Floydfag defense squad is fighting hard :laugh: just let it go or man up and keep it real there's nothing wrong with the fight, people can't complain it's the mindless sheepism that's bringing out the jokes and criticism

I would have preferred 154, I believe Money beats Canelo @ 154. The catchweight will give people ammo against Money to say Canelo was drained etc..... It will at the end of the day taint his victory if he wins. Canelo came in at 153 vs No Doubt I believe he can make 152 without it effecting him more then normal, so it's not that big a deal at the end of the day because Canelo will be @ 170s come fight night. To add we all know Canelo will have the size and power advantage come fight night. Money will be eating to make 152, Canelo will be draining down to make it. On fight night Money will come in under 152, Canelo will be in the 170's. This catchweight seems fair when you look at it that way, both fighters agreed to it, they aren't complaining then we shouldn't ether.

you know what else is reality??? Cherrypicker said he wants the guys that he fights to be at their most comfortable weight Serious question, what's Canelos most comfortable weight then?

Exactly. 148-154........ Not 148-152. What he said.....

Queen_Ellerbe at it again. He doesn't even know what to say or do anymore to defend Mayweather. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

148-154 not 148-152 floyd is a fraud. cotto is basically undefeated he said. he only fights opponents at their best he said. the very same floyd that you love said these things. it must be hard to pick which floyd to listen to.

That's fine. Come in at any weight within that range. The issue here is that the weight has been capped at 152lbs. People say that 2lbs is nothing......if it's nothing then why bother?

Well yea... that's why both titles are on the line. Everyone is complaining that the ceiling for the weight is down two pounds and Canelo is a big kid who might have trouble keeping it down. Couldn't even make the catchweight for his own title fight