Anyone wanna tell me what's going on at 168? (belts)

You can hold The Ring belt even if you down hold any of the 4 major alphabet titles. Ricky Hatton had The Ring belt and IBO when he fought Pacquaio

I remember Cotto's title being upgraded to "Super" after winning the "Regular" one from Foreman, before fighting Mayorga. Makes no sense.

By that logic, shouldn't Froch be WBA super champ? Honestly, this is ridiculous. Yes, he should be. Ward didn't hold any titles when he won the WBA Super title, so that should really have been downgraded to a WBA Interim title, with him having first crack at the WBA regular champion. The whole situation was affected by the super 6 and has quickly descended into an absolute farce, with nobody showing any willingness to try and sort it out.

Ward is just the true champ.

Belts mean sh't including the Ring belt.

so ward has 18 months to fight froch or vacate

Uhh, makes sense, sorta... anyone wanna explain now what makes Ward the WBA super champion?? edit: nevermind, missed that last post, thanks Thats alright, wanted to know myself too lol so had a google :) and yeah I agree, it makes no sense now! (edit - especially when Mayweather is classed as a super champion and hasn't followed those rules)

Just had a look on WBA site... WBA SUPER CHAMPIONSHIPS (by WBA - Feb 11, 2009 - 11:12:37 AM) DEFINITION The SUPER WORLD CHAMPION CATEGORY OR UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION was created for those World Champions who hold the title of two or more organizations recognized by the WBA, like the World Boxing Council (WBC), the International Boxing Federation (IBF) and the World Boxing Organization (WBO). The creation of the category of SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS or UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPIONS was born from a suggestion sent to us by Lennox Lewis, World Boxing Association former Heavyweight Champion, which we have considered convenient in order to give the Unified Champions a more flexible time to defend their titles as well as the challengers the chance to fight for the title. PROPOSED REGULATION We are still working to set the regulation that shall rule the SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS, and we have considered it convenient to establish the following: The SUPER CHAMPIONS will be obliged to make the mandatory defense of their titles in a period no longer than 18 months against the boxer recognized as the World Boxing Association Champion of the corresponding division. In the intermediate period between the mandatory defenses, the UNDISPUTED SUPER CHAMPION will be able to defend his title against any recognized opponent chosen from the official ratings list of the WBA or from the organizations it recognizes and with the approval of those organizations. The WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO will coordinate whenever necessary their respective ratings, to minimize any incompatibility in them for the Unified Titles, thus easing the optional fights of the UNIFIED SUPER CHAMPIONS. In those cases of controversies that make difficult the selection of the mandatory contender to fight with the SUPER CHAMPION, the organizations will be able to order mandatory fights (Box-off suggested by Lennox Lewis) to determine the mandatory contender –previously agreed-. In those cases when they do not reach an agreement to make the mandatory fight as it is stated in point ‘a’ and ‘b’ previously stated in this provisional regulation, the Purse Bid Procedure will be ordered. By that logic, shouldn't Froch be WBA super champ? Honestly, this is ridiculous.

and for the ring... CHAMPIONSHIP POLICY - Championship vacancies can be filled in the following two ways: 1. THE RING’s Nos. 1 and 2 contenders fight one another. 2. If the Nos. 1 and 2 contenders chose not to fight one another and either of them fights No. 3, No. 4 or No. 5, the winner may be awarded THE RING belt if the Editorial Board deems the contenders worthy. Here are the seven situations in which a champion can lose his belt: 1. The Champion loses a fight in the weight class in which he is champion. 2. The Champion moves to another weight class. 3. The Champion does not schedule a fight in any weight class for 18 months. 4. The Champion does not schedule a fight at his championship weight for 18 months (even if he fights at another weight). 5. The Champion does not schedule a fight with a Top-5 contender from any weight class for two years. 6. The Champion retires. 7. The Champion tests positive for a banned substance. RATINGS POLICY The criteria by which THE RING rates fighters is as follows (in order of importance): 1. Results. This is the most objective criterion and takes precedence over all others. 2. Performance. How a fighter performs in a victory or defeat can be a factor to determine his place in the ratings. 3. Track record: A fighter’s accomplishments in the recent past can be a factor to determine his place in the ratings. That includes quality of opposition.

Uhh, makes sense, sorta... anyone wanna explain now what makes Ward the WBA super champion?? edit: nevermind, missed that last post, thanks

Just had a look on WBA site... WBA SUPER CHAMPIONSHIPS (by WBA - Feb 11, 2009 - 11:12:37 AM) DEFINITION The SUPER WORLD CHAMPION CATEGORY OR UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPION was created for those World Champions who hold the title of two or more organizations recognized by the WBA, like the World Boxing Council (WBC), the International Boxing Federation (IBF) and the World Boxing Organization (WBO). The creation of the category of SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS or UNDISPUTED WORLD CHAMPIONS was born from a suggestion sent to us by Lennox Lewis, World Boxing Association former Heavyweight Champion, which we have considered convenient in order to give the Unified Champions a more flexible time to defend their titles as well as the challengers the chance to fight for the title. PROPOSED REGULATION We are still working to set the regulation that shall rule the SUPER WORLD CHAMPIONS, and we have considered it convenient to establish the following: The SUPER CHAMPIONS will be obliged to make the mandatory defense of their titles in a period no longer than 18 months against the boxer recognized as the World Boxing Association Champion of the corresponding division. In the intermediate period between the mandatory defenses, the UNDISPUTED SUPER CHAMPION will be able to defend his title against any recognized opponent chosen from the official ratings list of the WBA or from the organizations it recognizes and with the approval of those organizations. The WBA, WBC, IBF and WBO will coordinate whenever necessary their respective ratings, to minimize any incompatibility in them for the Unified Titles, thus easing the optional fights of the UNIFIED SUPER CHAMPIONS. In those cases of controversies that make difficult the selection of the mandatory contender to fight with the SUPER CHAMPION, the organizations will be able to order mandatory fights (Box-off suggested by Lennox Lewis) to determine the mandatory contender –previously agreed-. In those cases when they do not reach an agreement to make the mandatory fight as it is stated in point ‘a’ and ‘b’ previously stated in this provisional regulation, the Purse Bid Procedure will be ordered.

Froch - IBF Champion Stieglitz - WBO Champion Ward - WBA 'Super' Champion Froch - WBA 'Regular' Champion WBC - Vacant for Ward to lose the Ring belt he needs to be replaced as the number one super middle on the ring rankings against the number 2 ring fighter. I think thats the rules anyway