Who needs who more? (Froch-Ward)

Ward's been there done that. If Ward is hungry for a huge payday and taking a step back, then sure he could fight Froch. But Ward needs to head upward and onward not take a step back. Some people draw, some can't, but everyone knows who the better fighter is.

Froch trained since boyhood to become a world champion and as a man, is now clever enough to know what to and what not to do. He knows that Ward is the better fighter, he knows if he fights him again there is a good chance of losing. He also knows that he holds 2 belts and Ward wants to fight, so Froch will make Ward bend to his demands. Do not start a post with such a stupid response when you show such an inability to understand that this sport is a business. Your opinion is that he needs Ward, fact is, he said yesterday he doesn't. People stopped fighting for legacy 40 years ago, you get the odd one or two but money talks. F*ck what he said in front of the camera, that's posturing and you know it. He strikes me as an Alpha Male and there is no way he is OK with a loss to Ward. I do believe he wants the fight at O2 and I agree the fight belongs on Froch'a side of the pond but he knows it, you know it, we ll know it. He needs and desires a shot at redemption.

It depends on how you look at it. Ward has a win over Froch and nobody argues that Ward was the clear winner. So nobody can claim Froch is as good or better than Ward until Froch beats Ward in a rematch. Froch needs Ward to fight him again before he can claim to be the best 168 pounder in the world. When it comes to making money Froch is very popular and a much bigger moneymaker than Ward. Ward needs Froch to make maximum money for a single fight. Froch can make big money with several different fighters. So Ward needs Froch for a real big single fight payday. Ward can live without Froch and still make good money fighting other fighters. I can't think of anyone Ward can fight that would make him as much money for one fight as he would get for fighting Froch in England. I would say Froch needs Ward more than Ward needs Froch. Ward will always have that clear win over Froch.

Chavez jr and in a few years GGG and chocolate will be there if he stays. Yeah. Andre "Mongoose" Ward still option to cash in $$

Pascal and Bute. Possibly catchweight with Martinez. Chavez jr and in a few years GGG and chocolate will be there if he stays.

Froch doesn't need Ward at all. Froch could fight Groves, Cleverly, Hopkins, possibly Kessler rematch and make a lot of money. Who can Ward fight and make a lot of money with other than Froch? That's why he wants the Froch fight so badly. He has no options. Froch has plenty. Pascal and Bute. Possibly catchweight with Martinez.

You guys are to funny. So, now it's all about the money. I dont care about how much $ fighters make. Froch needs Ward more. He has to atleast try to avenge his lost, I mean what fighter wants to be #2. Yeah ward should travel to the UK. Just not in Froch home city. How about Scotland? Froch is one of my favorite boxers but he has to go after Ward for respect. Nottingham is Froch's home city. London is where the fight would be held.

Apparently you're the one kidding yourself. Boxing is a business, first and foremost. It doesn't matter if you're the tenth rated fighter, if you entertain you get the pay-days and opportunities. The promoters make money by promoting entertaining fights that people will pay good money for. Andre Ward doesn't entertain, simples. Froch doesn't need Ward for any other reason apart from 'legacy'. If he wants a nice looking resume, fight Ward again for a chance to redeem yourself. Otherwise, he can continue to fight the rest of the best at 168 and earn a nice living. Ward needs Froch, I cannot understand how anyone else would think any different. It's so blatant that he's the one chasing and trying to force Froch to rematch him. The most delusional post I've read in recent memory. So according to your line of reasoning Froch trained since his boyhood to NOT beat the best in the world. So your trying to tell me Froch is 100% ok with losing to Ward and accepting the mantra of "Im #2! Woo!" GTFOH. He needs Ward as much as Ward needs a payday.

You guys are to funny. So, now it's all about the money. I dont care about how much $ fighters make. Froch needs Ward more. He has to atleast try to avenge his lost, I mean what fighter wants to be #2. Yeah ward should travel to the UK. Just not in Froch home city. How about Scotland? Froch is one of my favorite boxers but he has to go after Ward for respect.

For money ward needs froch For legacy froch needs ward They need each other.

no one need echother, Ward win clearly in his first fight and in a remach would be the same. Froch can fight against Kessler 3, Dirrell 2, Hopkins, Degale or Groves and Ward can fight Bute, Dirrell, Groves, Degale or go up to 175 Bute only fights in Canada, and when he went to the UK he had a rematch clause that allows him to avenge his loss in Canada. Dirrell? Is that guy even boxing right now? Groves and Degale are not big fights, and if they get a title shot is going to be in the UK. Up to 175? Ward already stated that he doesn't want to do that.

<3 they both need each other <3

Ward has nobody to fight. Froch can fight a bunch of guys but he won't be #1 in his division unless he beats ward.

If the fight doesn't happen who will make more in their respective next fight? And there is your answer, simple really Froch can happily make millions fighting infront of 60k+ fans each time until he retires Ward can't pull anything even remotely close to that.

no one need echother, Ward win clearly in his first fight and in a remach would be the same. Froch can fight against Kessler 3, Dirrell 2, Hopkins, Degale or Groves and Ward can fight Bute, Dirrell, Groves, Degale or go up to 175

froch needs ward for 1 he beat'em easy,and admitted he can't beat on live tv Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

well i'm not watching Ward but I am watching Froch soooo

Is it not the point of boxing to knock off the king of the hill? The #1 fighter in your respective division? Lets not kid ourselves as to who needs who. If Froch wants to be "The Man" in his division then he needs to beat one fighter and one fighter alone.

Froch doesn't need Ward at all. Froch could fight Groves, Cleverly, Hopkins, possibly Kessler rematch and make a lot of money. Who can Ward fight and make a lot of money with other than Froch? That's why he wants the Froch fight so badly. He has no options. Froch has plenty.

Ward needs froch for a big pay day. Froch doesn't need ward at all. Unless he wants to avenge his lose but really that fight wasn't entertaining. I don't think froch needs him. Just my opinion.