Is Broner the next Zab Judah???

True test is when he eventually fights someone that he doesn't have a size advantage over and can bang. Broner gets hit cleanly a lot in his fights but the smaller guys haven't been able to really hurt him. Test failed............

When I look at Broner, I see a lot more potential than what I saw in Zab. But time will tell.

Nah, aside from Floyd, Adrien's the most talented and dangerous fighter in boxing. Zab was weak. Every current boxer up to 160 except Floyd would be easy work for Adrien. Who else do you think is gonna be p4p #1 when Big Bro retires?? Haha :D Seriously though, I hope for the sake of humanity this is sarcasm...

People focus too much on fighters OUTSIDE of the ring and want to use that to judge how good they are IN THE RING! Broner not as talented as Zab was but he has a better work ethic and seems to be stronger mentally then Zab already so this comparison is...well...AWFUL! Zab problem was his work ethic, his father Yoel Judah would have to find Zab to get him to come and train at the gym, Zab preferred other stuff like hanging around in Brooklyn over training and thought he was talented enough to train when he wants and just show up and win based on his natural talent Broner can be as good as he wants to be if he stays focus on his boxing career, he seems like a guy when it is time to train he is willing to work extremely hard and I think he has a good trainer in Mike Stafford who will keep him focus when it comes to boxing

Great thread! Ok now on to the comparison: Both guys have/had the same attitude. Either guy is charming, nice individually but thuggish in groups. Both guys are supremely confident and have incredible natural talent. It hurts me because I feel as though both these guys as individuals are good kids (Judah is still a kid to us old screwheads approaching 50!)....They need a guy who will be their daddy! AMike Tyson like presence, or a Cus Amato presence like Tyson had....Broke my heart when Sweet Pea couldn't do it for Judah...I really hoped that we might see a disciplined, emotionally matured Judah. The problem with both these guys is NOT the training!! Judah has always been a hard worker, and so is Broner....the problem is emotional maturity. Kind of funny when ya think about it but actually? it takes a bit of maturity to hold it together when one gets belted in the mouth. Judah tends to fall apart under pressure. Bronner is setting himself up for the same fall.... Here is how I can predict that with almost certainty: A) Bronner has a horrendous habit of gving away rounds. It means that he will have to operate at a loss when things get rough, you can best believe a guy like Malinagi is going to steal those first few rounds if Bronner lets him. Bronner sets way to wide. He can't apply pressure this way, its that simple. With Judah his habits that killed him in the ring were a lack of direction from his corner, an inability to deal with getting hurt in the ring, and just a comensurate amount of ring intelligence to deal with the physical skills. Bronner will have the same problems...In the big leagues you can't give away rounds to a guy who has skills. I hope Broner looks at this thread and maybe thinks about Judah a bit. I doubt he gets by Paulie frankly. He might get a gift decision is all

Who knows? If he is, it isn't a bad thing. Zab has had a good career. 5 time world champ and undisputed champion at 147. He didn't live up to the "ATG" expectations that people placed on him for whatever reason, (probably because people fall in love with and overrate speed and power) but based on his skills and abilities his career has been a success.

Broner is not nearly as good as Zab was. I'd actually like to see Broner fight Zab right now. Anyone would be a step up from his recent opponents. Very true statement here. Again: short memory syndrome....Zab was a supreme talent, he had all the natural ability of Bronner, had a great instinct in the ring, and had a lot going for him.

I remember when Zab was coming up, my friends were saying he ll be one of the ATGs, because he was Sweet Pea with 1 punch KO power.

We don't know yet, next floyd or next judah

Broner is a no class clown outside the ring in my opinion. Judah was a bragging jerk in his early days too. Broner is a bigger jerk than Judah was. The difference is Judah often did not train hard or fight his best. That does not seem to be the case with Broner. Broner is proud of his ring skills and his roll model is Floyd Mayweather. Mayweather is famous for training hard and staying in shape. I think Broner will give his boxing career a 100% effort and not waste his talent the way Judah did. Broner wants to be a great fighter and he is willing to work hard to great. He might continue to act like a fool outside the ring but I think he will always show up for his fights in top condition and fight hard.

Broner is not nearly as good as Zab was. I'd actually like to see Broner fight Zab right now. Anyone would be a step up from his recent opponents.

His life outside the ring does make me wonder. When Tyson went out of control around 1988-99, he seriously declined.

judah would have quit against demarco Judah would have quit against Rees!

I see a lot of similarities in and out of the ring.. Both have/ p4p potential, but as Zab fell bit into his success outside the ring and started socializing w the hip hop crowd he couldnt keep his head inbetween the ropes. Anyone see Broner headed the same way or is it just me???? I can see him n a couple years all over WSHH before getting "Judahd" by someone like Mattysse..hm No. Broner is far more talented. Judah at his best, was just a fighter with some speed. Broner can have an off night, and still do well. Of course him going up and down in classes, can potentially ruin him.

Idk but I have a feeling you're right I want to see how he reacts when he gets "rocked". People seem to believe Floyd has made it this far untouched granted he doesn't get touched often but he has taken some BIG shots in his career and that's what makes him great he simply doesn't allow it to happen again.... Idk if broner has that in him... Could be wrong.

If he stays in the 147lb division it is probable, the effectiveness of his physical attributes would be negated and he'd have to rely more heavily on his boxing IQ. I feel that that is pretty much what ****ed up Zab's career, imo he'd probably be a hall of famer if he spent his prime years in the Jr Welterweight division. You don't? Just watch his last fight, it was embarrassing how many punches little Rees landed clean. I don't think his defense is spectacular but at the same time I don't think his fight with Rees is a good indication on the quality of his defense. With short fighters their punches come out of your field of vision, it can be quite tricky to deal with.

Broner gets hit more than floyd ( who doesnt?) but gets hit clean alot? I dont see it. You don't? Just watch his last fight, it was embarrassing how many punches little Rees landed clean.

True test is when he eventually fights someone that he doesn't have a size advantage over and can bang. Broner gets hit cleanly a lot in his fights but the smaller guys haven't been able to really hurt him. Broner gets hit more than floyd ( who doesnt?) but gets hit clean alot? I dont see it.

Nah, aside from Floyd, Adrien's the most talented and dangerous fighter in boxing. Zab was weak. Every current boxer up to 160 except Floyd would be easy work for Adrien. Who else do you think is gonna be p4p #1 when Big Bro retires??

True test is when he eventually fights someone that he doesn't have a size advantage over and can bang. Broner gets hit cleanly a lot in his fights but the smaller guys haven't been able to really hurt him.