Interview over at floyd hype. Basically he stated that he originally requested VADA testing and they told him that if he insists of VADA there will be no fight so he obliged to not miss out on a 7 figure payday. They offered usada but Paulie said that he has yet to be tested.
Wow. Schaefer threatens to cancel the fight for something that would level the playing field. Wow. Unbelievable. I thought these are the same people advocating a clean sport in the past. They are now against it.
This whole thing is bogus.
VADA is used in about 10% of big fights, and catches guys left and right.
USADA does about 90% of the big fights, never catches anybody and it costs more to use than VADA.
From my research it costs roughly $3,500 to use VADA where USADA costs about $10,000
There is a reason USADA costs more and never catches anyone, yet all the promoters use it. There is a reason why VADA catches guys but is hardly ever used.
Boxing is a corrupt sport and im willing to bet that 90% of the top level guys use. Especially when coming up in Weight like broner and manny OR coming down in weight like Chavez Jr and Mayorga
Quit with the conspiracy theories. There is no conspiracy with either USADA or VADA. The differences are just in experience, reputation, and cost. VADA has only two cases of positive results -- Lamont Peterson and Andre Berto. USADA only has one case of a positive result. So 2 guys to 1 guy. Wow, that is a huge difference.
VADA isn't "hardly" used. Top Rank uses VADA exclusively. Golden Boy uses USADA exclusively. And Top Rank is less keen on doing random drug testing than Golden Boy. Golden Boy was the first Promotional entity to use both USADA and VADA, before choosing USADA exclusively.
BScene news on PEDerson only go back 17 pages so I couldnt find it but I could've sworn there was some news that BOTH PEDersons signed with GB.
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This whole thing is bogus.
VADA is used in about 10% of big fights, and catches guys left and right.
USADA does about 90% of the big fights, never catches anybody and it costs more to use than VADA.
From my research it costs roughly $3,500 to use VADA where USADA costs about $10,000
There is a reason USADA costs more and never catches anyone, yet all the promoters use it.
There is a reason why VADA catches guys but is hardly ever used.
Boxing is a corrupt sport and im willing to bet that 90% of the top level guys use.
Especially when coming up in Weight like broner and manny OR coming down in weight like Chavez Jr and Mayorga
Yes but there's supposed to be a start point. No testing at all done with a little over a month to go to the fight makes the whole thing look like a token gesture.
I agree.
And it's difficult to give an opinion because none of us know the details about it. Did Paulie sign off on a contract that specifically said USADA would do the testing? Did Golden Boy just fail to pay USADA, therefore no testing has taken place? Is USADA just too busy to conduct it? A bunch of unknowns with this story. Paulie should really, really get on top of that though.
USADA kept the New York SAC in the loop for the Morales-Garcia fight.
VADA didn't tell Nevada SAC anything, even after they found Lamont positive in March. They only told Lamont and his lawyer. It was ultimately Lamont's lawyer who told the Nevada SAC...in May.
Not according to Keith Idec, they had 4 dirty samples and the commission was told the B sample would not be in till after the fight. But you probably knew this, just forgot
That's some dirty ****.
If I was Paulie I would juice for this fight.
lol it would hilarious if Paulie came out with one-punch KO power like Marquez
I can just imagine Paulie trying to explain it in the post-fight interview in his superfast voice "yeh we were workin on it in the gym, medicine ball strengthened my wrists but I always had that KO power I just didn't always land the right punches to show you all"
Its a shame there will always be a question mark now did floyd use peds and had gbp/usada declare him a clean athlete regardless ,how does he and broner get away eatin mcdonalds and soft drinks?and still come in great shape ?have to be the best peds out there..
You know you don't have to just eat chicken and rice to stay in shape. Food is food for the most part. Not like they eat junk for breakfast lunch and dinner
Its a shame there will always be a question mark now did floyd use peds and had gbp/usada declare him a clean athlete regardless ,how does he and broner get away eatin mcdonalds and soft drinks?and still come in great shape ?have to be the best peds out there..
because if you use steroids to mask performance enhancing steroids, then under usada you can get away with it. Usada are amateurs man, why do you think you hear these people saying that drug testing is flawed, even for olympics, they admitted themself too many cheats get away with it
with vada, they do advance testing even when levels are very slightly higher than usual, where if you look usada, you must have an unusual high level before they even begin to take it seriously
then on top of that, and this is my main annoyance
if a fighter tests positive, they report it to golden boy, golden boy then have the choice themselves to decide what to do, if they say to them, forget about it by making some lame excuse, usada do that, they cannot tell the commission or anyone else
vada refuse to do the above
do you see why I said all this testing stuff is bs? it catches very very very little, and when they do get caught, they can get away with it
you're a clown , USADA is the most stringest drug testing to date and is used internationally. you act like you know WTF you're talking about.
Lol Paulie clearly stated he hadn't been tested yet and didnt know when.
Here I was thinking the entire idea of "random testing" was that you would never know when they will show up and test you....
Yes but there's supposed to be a start point. No testing at all done with a little over a month to go to the fight makes the whole thing look like a token gesture.
Lol Paulie clearly stated he hadn't been tested yet and didnt know when.
Here I was thinking the entire idea of "random testing" was that you would never know when they will show up and test you....
USADA kept the New York SAC in the loop for the Morales-Garcia fight.
VADA didn't tell Nevada SAC anything, even after they found Lamont positive in March. They only told Lamont and his lawyer. It was ultimately Lamont's lawyer who told the Nevada SAC...in May.
because if you use steroids to mask performance enhancing steroids, then under usada you can get away with it. Usada are amateurs man, why do you think you hear these people saying that drug testing is flawed, even for olympics, they admitted themself too many cheats get away with it
with vada, they do advance testing even when levels are very slightly higher than usual, where if you look usada, you must have an unusual high level before they even begin to take it seriously
then on top of that, and this is my main annoyance
if a fighter tests positive, they report it to golden boy, golden boy then have the choice themselves to decide what to do, if they say to them, forget about it by making some lame excuse, usada do that, they cannot tell the commission or anyone else
vada refuse to do the above
do you see why I said all this testing stuff is bs? it catches very very very little, and when they do get caught, they can get away with it
because if you use steroids to mask performance enhancing steroids, then under usada you can get away with it. Usada are amateurs man, why do you think you hear these people saying that drug testing is flawed, even for olympics, they admitted themself too many cheats get away with it
with vada, they do advance testing even when levels are very slightly higher than usual, where if you look usada, you must have an unusual high level before they even begin to take it seriously
then on top of that, and this is my main annoyance
if a fighter tests positive, they report it to golden boy, golden boy then have the choice themselves to decide what to do, if they say to them, forget about it by making some lame excuse, usada do that, they cannot tell the commission or anyone else
vada refuse to do the above
do you see why I said all this testing stuff is bs? it catches very very very little, and when they do get caught, they can get away with it
USADA brought down Lance ARmstrong-who at the time was as world renown as Kobe, Messi or Tiger.
If you continually over simplify what happened with the situations you reference you begin to believe that they aren't credible. The debate has blended too much into who each side is with.
Either way, Paulie can ask for whatever he wants if he thinks it helps increase his earnings for his fight.