"size don't win fights, Skills do"

Class avatar man, nice to see someone appreciate the true Catchweight King. All those belts at stake, including the real thing. Would you mind if I go with CWKingJr, will it be lame and unoriginal? Not sure I care, this Super CW feat deserves wider recognition at any cost. Not at all. We need a jr. III, IV, V. The legacy must go on! Hectari has been putting in good work too. He needs to jump in on it.

I have him on ignore, but see his drivel when somone quotes him. Here he is. https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1214464367/spinning_logo_small.jpg Class avatar man, nice to see someone appreciate the true Catchweight King. All those belts at stake, including the real thing. Would you mind if I go with CWKingJr, will it be lame and unoriginal? Not sure I care, this Super CW feat deserves wider recognition at any cost.

have you seen that queer, reloaded? up until this fight was signed, he was STILL crying about the catchweight with PAC-Cotto...haven't seen him lately I have him on ignore, but see his drivel when somone quotes him. Here he is. https://si0.twimg.com/profile_images/1214464367/spinning_logo_small.jpg

the same ***g0ts who were crying about catchweights are defending this now Go reread my thread about Pac Cotto. Its pure gold going through that **** and the things these clowns were saying. Kind of makes me wish alot of those bums were unbanned to just see them spin this.

Canelo undefeated no matter what thanks to Floyd's standards

and saul will still be undefeated.:dance: :lol1: true.. no wonder why saul agreed on the dot.. this is a no brainer... :D

Canelo will lose as a light heavyweight against Mayweather's 154 on the night and saul will still be undefeated.:dance:

that statement is 100% correct. Cotto is at his best @ 154 lbs and not 147lbs. lol, Cotto is 3-2 at 154. 7-2 at 147. Jr. middleweight is his best weight? You don't even believe that.

Floyd in 2012: " think Miguel Cotto is a hell of a fighter, a strong solid 154-pounder. Pacquiao was trying to fight him at 147. I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he's not comfortable. I want a guy when he's at his best. If he's at his best at 154 and he's strong and he's solid, then that's the fight we're fighting at. I walk around at 150, but at the end of the day - skills pay the bills. :dance::dance: that statement is 100% correct. Cotto is at his best @ 154 lbs and not 147lbs.

Floyd in 2012: " think Miguel Cotto is a hell of a fighter, a strong solid 154-pounder. Pacquiao was trying to fight him at 147. I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he's not comfortable. I want a guy when he's at his best. If he's at his best at 154 and he's strong and he's solid, then that's the fight we're fighting at. I walk around at 150, but at the end of the day - skills pay the bills. :dance::dance:

Cotto is damaged goods bro, if u think otherwise u have problems.Of course he was that is why Floyd fought him without weight stipulations! He fought Oscar and Cotto without any problem with weight but he puts stipulations on Canelo because Canelo is young, strong, unbeaten and hungry.

NO. We do not get to implement new rules just because it's about Floyd Mayweather again. We'll let him have the "street cred" for starting the PED testing bonanza that's going on in Boxing right now, with lots of fights having random tests. Not on this one though. It's not like it hasn't been done before; a guy fighting someone who is much heavier on fight night than him. So if Floyd is great, he will accomplish this not-so-special feat in facing a Junior Middleweight who is much heavier than him. That confuses me more than anything about the arguments made why Alvarez is too big. Fighters fight guys that massively outweigh them all the time, all throughout history. I remember a thread discussing Mayweather vs. Chavez Jr., and whether Mayweather could win that fight. A LOT of posters said Mayweather would win. Mayweather would be outweighed by 40 pounds, at least, in that fight. So he can do that, but he can't fight Alvarez?

"size don't win fights, Skills do" Tell that Antonio Tarver once he realized Roy Jones couldn't hurt him. Roy's "skill" might as well have been dog **** at light heavyweight. After all those years of HBO showing Jones fighting stiffs, the first live body he got ended up changing his career and image for ever. Imagine if Tarver didn't fight scared in the first fight, would have been an earlier exposure. Not an exposure of how Roy sucks, because he doesn't, but an exposure that size does matter, strength, and how fighting stiffs is a wholeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee lot different than fighting a strong, quicik, and competent fighter. What. in. the. f*ck.

Martinez is a junior MW who moved up b/c that is where the money was. Pavlik and Chavez were way bigger than him but he never brought those issues up he just fought them. Not saying that Floyd is but his fans and people are bringing up the issue of size. Well u saw how hard Chavez jr power punches where when he decided to throw punches.(with 20 pounds weight advantage)

Floyd in 2012: " think Miguel Cotto is a hell of a fighter, a strong solid 154-pounder. Pacquiao was trying to fight him at 147. I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he's not comfortable. I want a guy when he's at his best. If he's at his best at 154 and he's strong and he's solid, then that's the fight we're fighting at. I walk around at 150, but at the end of the day - skills pay the bills. De La Hoya - Pacquiao fights him at a catch-weight. Cotto - he fights him at a catchweight. When I fought De La Hoya, I said 'give him to me at 154.' With Cotto - 'give him to me at 154.' Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses." Well Cotto and Oscar where well past there prime. Now Mayweather is fighting a legit decent 154 with power in Canelo. I still think Mayweather could win, but with difficulty because of Canelos 20 pounds weight advantage.

Because Sergio belongs at that weight. And why dosent Sergio move up in weight and fight bigger guys???? Martinez is a junior MW who moved up b/c that is where the money was. Pavlik and Chavez were way bigger than him but he never brought those issues up he just fought them. Not saying that Floyd is but his fans and people are bringing up the issue of size.

Floyd in 2012: " think Miguel Cotto is a hell of a fighter, a strong solid 154-pounder. Pacquiao was trying to fight him at 147. I would never want to put a fighter in a position where he's not comfortable. I want a guy when he's at his best. If he's at his best at 154 and he's strong and he's solid, then that's the fight we're fighting at. I walk around at 150, but at the end of the day - skills pay the bills. De La Hoya - Pacquiao fights him at a catch-weight. Cotto - he fights him at a catchweight. When I fought De La Hoya, I said 'give him to me at 154.' With Cotto - 'give him to me at 154.' Give me the guys where they are comfortable at their weight so there are no excuses."

Bad answer! In other words, if a guy who is in the same division Oscar and Cotto were in, the SAME division Floyd won 22 titles in - and is not a cherry pick, Mayweather has to drain the guy down to a weight he didn't ask Cotto or Oscar to fight in, one that Canelo has never fought in. Yeah, sounds just like what Mayweather would do. Cotto is damaged goods bro, if u think otherwise u have problems.

But Cotto was a cherry pick.Bad answer! In other words, if a guy who is in the same division Oscar and Cotto were in, the SAME division Floyd won 22 titles in - and is not a cherry pick, Mayweather has to drain the guy down to a weight he didn't ask Cotto or Oscar to fight in, one that Canelo has never fought in. Yeah, sounds just like what Mayweather would do.

See: Oscar Delahoya's failed attempt at going back to 147. It catches up to you.Absolutely. Leonard going from over 160 to 154 for Camacho, Byrd dropping to 175 gets stopped early and neither guy could take a punch against guys who could not possibly hurt them otherwise. Dawson couldn't even take a punch against a guy not known for power. Jones losing muscle against Tarver messed him up bad. Weight loss really fuks up a person. Punch resistance goes way down with weight loss, especially for older fighters. If Canelo had fought at 147 for some time as a titleholder, that would be easier to accept.