Anybody else change their tune about Floyd?

Used to be a fan of Floyd, then he ducked Pacquiao now I don't care for his cherry picking ass. I wouldn't mind ever seeing him fight again. I don't understand posts like these, so you're saying it was 100% Floyd's fault why the fight wasn't made? what a load of nonsense.

What about when Floyd called Mosley out in like 99 and shane stated that he was in search for bigger fights, then in like 2004 he called out shane and shane complained that he had a toothache? Cause the 99 Mosley was pound for pound number 1 at the time In 99, it was just talk. He was just shooting out those names. Especially when they were in different weight divisions. Mosley was going to WW to fight Oscar. Floyd didn't become WW for another ~7 years. Again, it's all talk by Floyd and most people caught on by now. The tooth incident happened right after a fight in 2006 not 2004. The main reason for a few months delay was that Mosley had planned a mini-vacation after fighting Vargas in July. Mosley said, let's do it right after I get back from my 1-2 months vacation. Floyd said NO I will fight Baldomir instead of waiting 1-2 months. Floyd fought in November while Mosley fought in February. Interesting since Floyd was contemplating retiring at that point. If you were Floyd, would you want to retire with Baldomir or Mosley on your record? Especially if you say that Floyd really, I mean REALLY wanted to fight Mosley.......

I wouldn't expect many people to change their tune, everyone that would at the every least be real I would expect to already be there and I certainly wouldn't expect any of the really ardent nay sayers to change their mind after the Guerrero fight.

Arum would have given floyd more money http://www.abload.de/img/11514-animated_gifchat8etf.gif Not sure if you agreeing with me or your skeptical of the notion that arum would have given FLoyd more money than manny. I CAN GUARANTEE YOU THAT IF FLOYD CAME AS A FREE AGENT TO BOBFATHER WITH A ONE FIGHT DEAL TO FIGHT MANNY. BOB WOULD HAVE GIVEN HIM ANYTHING HE WANTED. BOB JUST DIDNT WANT TO SHARE THE SPOTLIGHT WITH GOLDEN BOY. Floyd could have dictated the terms just like how he does to golden boy. but for some reason he only works with golden boy. Probably because at the time (2007) they had all the old faded big name fighters like oscar, shane, hatton, jmm etc. And Top rank had margarito, cotto, manny all in their primes

Your just mad that, that 40 year old blown up WW had the balls to fight Manny 4 fuggin times! How does that make Floyd look? Honestly, think about it. JMM had the balls to fight Floyd unlike your fake saint hero.:cool2:

Lol @ best of his era...what a bumsniff! Yes best of his era.

I used to be the biggest Floyd hater. HUGE. But over the years I've grown to appreciate his skill. Can't say that I'm a fan, but at least neutral. For me, it went from "he's too scared to fight Pac" to "it's because of Bob Arum, if they were both under Golden Boy the fight would be made in 2 seconds" and "he's cherrypicking" to "well, he's fighting who's out there, who the hell else is he supposed to fight." Anybody else converted? His skills were never the issue and if it has taken you this long to appreciate his skills than that's just retarded, no offense. I've been watching Boxing too long though. I used to love to go back and ask questions like, did SRL ever fight Hagler? Did he fight Duran? What about Hearns? What about Hagler!? Did he ever fight the same guys? What happened in those fights??? etc etc It's bad enough that Oscar never fought Forrest, Trinidad never fought Forrest, Mosely never fought Trinidad etc etc. But all those fighters made up for it by still taking other big fights. With Mayweather its just a constant state of cherry picking at his leisure. He never fought Cotto when Cotto was on top of his game He never took the fight with Margarito (which is justifiable now since Marg was possibly cheating throughout his career) No fight with Paul Williams No fight with Manny ****ing Pacquio which was a ****ing MEGA-FIGHT ("Take the test this, Bob Arum that, I don't need Manny, Manny needs Me" etc etc) Mayweather is easily the biggest Fraud the sport has seen, but only because he puts so much emphasis on being the greatest. Also his personality is what gives motivation to point out how ****ing fraudulent he is. Look, if you're a coward and need a handicap in a fight to feel safe, look....SO BE IT. I'm not the one fighting, I'm not going to call you on that bull****. But if your personality is about running your mouth and gassing fans and the sport...http://i43.tinypic.com/315hidf.png The greatest take the greatest fights, period. Over all verdict on Floyd Mayweather Jr: ****ing annoying, lol that's it. And honestly, the sport will go back to how it was once he's gone anyways. So the sooner he retires the better. It's not like he's entertaining to watch unless he has a real opponent which he's ducked real opponents for soo long that all the remaining real fighters have fallen off. Martinez- Done Paq- Done Canelo-.....meh' best available option for an entertaining fight at this point.

Floyd has been in the driver seat since 2007 and could make any fight at anytime since the oscar fight. I can see him not wanting to fight margarito or cotto in 2006 when he was still angling for the oscar payday. But once he got it and became the biggest name in boxing he could have easily made fights with cotto, margarito, manny, etc And dont tell me its arum's fault. its all about money to him. He did build floyd, oscar, pavlik, manny, chavez jr, morales, barrera, george foreman comeback, etc and none have ever accused bob of dirty deeds. Not saying he is an angel but compared to all the guys that have sued don king, arum looks legit. Floyd has no reason to be so negative towards bob. Its just that bob has had the guys that could possibly beat him and floyd uses bob as a dodge. Arum would have given floyd more money, drug testing, etc if only floyd would ditch golden boy. But for some reason Floyd WHO IS HIS OWN BOSS?? wont leave golden boy behind and just do a one time promotion with arum for the manny fight Arum would have given floyd more money http://www.abload.de/img/11514-animated_gifchat8etf.gif

Floyd has been in the driver seat since 2007 and could make any fight at anytime since the oscar fight. I can see him not wanting to fight margarito or cotto in 2006 when he was still angling for the oscar payday. But once he got it and became the biggest name in boxing he could have easily made fights with cotto, margarito, manny, etc And dont tell me its arum's fault. its all about money to him. He did build floyd, oscar, pavlik, manny, chavez jr, morales, barrera, george foreman comeback, etc and none have ever accused bob of dirty deeds. Not saying he is an angel but compared to all the guys that have sued don king, arum looks legit. Floyd has no reason to be so negative towards bob. Its just that bob has had the guys that could possibly beat him and floyd uses bob as a dodge. Arum would have given floyd more money, drug testing, etc if only floyd would ditch golden boy. But for some reason Floyd WHO IS HIS OWN BOSS?? wont leave golden boy behind and just do a one time promotion with arum for the manny fight

Change their tune because he beat Guerrero? The guy who beat Berto? Man, where was Guerrero all these years? Floyd beat him! Very impressive! ;-)

and when Floyd was with Arum, he even broke his contract to fight Baldomir instead of Margarito ..... When called out, Floyd didn't want to fight Mosley from late 2006 to mid-2010 when Floyd said this version of Mosley is OLD (and inactive). What about when Floyd called Mosley out in like 99 and shane stated that he was in search for bigger fights, then in like 2004 he called out shane and shane complained that he had a toothache? Cause the 99 Mosley was pound for pound number 1 at the time

You're just mad that your hero was knocked smooth the fuck out by a blown up 40 year old lightweight, and left for dead.:lol1: Your just mad that, that 40 year old blown up WW had the balls to fight Manny 4 fuggin times! How does that make Floyd look? Honestly, think about it.

You're just mad that your hero was knocked smooth the fuck out by a blown up 40 year old lightweight, and left for dead.:lol1: Just curious, but why do you think that makes people mad? Knockouts are a part of boxing and its biggest risks. Everyone is looking to see it, whether its their favorite fighter doing the knocking out or their favorite fighter going balls to the wall getting knocked out. Manny gettting knocked out by his biggest rival garners him more respect than telling Marquez after the second fight, "nah, I beat you twice already, I don't need to fight you anymore". But again, why do you think it makes people mad?

instead of proving everyone wrong and fighting the guys he's ducking he gets mad and starts crying. he's like a little 5 year old kid. you wanted me to fight this dangerous guy? well now i'm not gonna just because! hey guerrero i'm gonna fight your bum ass just to make them mad. Whats even funnier is he says they are all easy work. So why not just go make that easy money?

used to be a huge fan but after he ducked pac after calling him out after pac beat cotto was just so annoying then when pac agreed to his 14 days him changing the terms to duck was again...annoying AND then when pac agreeing to 0 day with him trying to low ball pac by again changing the 50-50 terms was well guess what? annoying... he deserves to be knocked out, I am glad he will be making less per fight now as his ppv figures decrease fight by fight edit also the fact he avoided a prime cotto, margo and williams by retiring and then coming back when the competition is low with only 1 fighter left in pacman, easier to duck 1 then 3 i suppose

floyd was on the same planet as margarito, prime cotto, pac, etc...but he took a rocket ship to avoid them and landed on planet cherrypick which was inhabited by guys like ortiz, guerrero, baldomir, etc...WOW WHAT A GREAT ASTRONAUT! SO TALENTED! You're just mad that your hero was knocked smooth the fuck out by a blown up 40 year old lightweight, and left for dead.:lol1:

Outside the ring an awful example of human being, inside the ring the best of his era and an ATG. Lol @ best of his era...what a bumsniff!

canelo should fight the lara vs angulo winner. the winner is canelo's mandatory Who should Floyd fight then? Alexander??:rofl: Khan??:rofl: Garcia??:rofl: I bet you'd love that!

Outside the ring an awful example of human being, inside the ring the best of his era and an ATG.

.... I mean you can't deny that as soon as Cotto left Top rank the fight was made. Floyd demanded no catchweight ( like another guy), Cotto was coming from 3 big wins that didnt go to the distance. The guy saying Floyd waited for Mosley to get older is a joke. Floyd was begging to fight DLH and Mosley before the Gatti's fight. Mosley was having teeth "issues". Then after the fight where Mosley decapitated the cheater Margarito everybody on the site was saying Floyd would never fight Mosley, he did and now he was ducking him ? Source : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IfXs6_415zs Ortiz was coming off wins and many people thought he was a live dog. Personally, I'm trying to stay objective and here is what I think of his last fights : Floyd calling out fighters: Talk is cheap when it comes to Floyd - "Manny you are NEXT .... later .... I NEVER said that Manny is NEXT" - "It doesn't matter that I said I would ..... Now I'm saying I will not" Cotto: Floyd BEFORE signing: Cotto is flat-footed who has been in too many wars and I believe that he even lost to Clottey. If I pick Cotto people will realize this and call me out so I can't fight Cotto" Floyd AFTER signing: Cotto is undefeated fighter. Mosley: Mosley called him out from late 2006 to 2010. Floyd's response: "I don't want to fight Mosley". So kinda shoots down all that cheap talk by Floyd!!! After 4 years of waiting Floyd's pre-fight interview: "I'm taking into account that this version of Mosley is OLD as my game plan" By the way, Mosley was going on a planned mini-vacation (1-2 months) after his fight with Vargas BUT was ready to fight Floyd right after that. When Mosley came back from his vacation Mosley called him out ..... and again, Floyd said no in late 2006 until it finally happened in mid 2010 .....