Ok I keep hearing people talking about it's ok for Pac to fight Rios because he is lazy and is heavy coming in. But When the tables are turned and the Ghost comes in weighing more than Floyd it's a cherry pick.
Lets put things in perspective Manny is an atg in many eyes but doesn't have to fight outside his weight comfort and gets credit for beat guys in lower weight classes or guys coming off loses. Floyd who many say is not an atg has to fight guys much bigger coming off wins and has to fight their fight to impress most wtf? And if he stick and move he's running (Ghost % Floyd fight) When manny does it ( Margarito & Pac) it's fighting smart?
Also perspective, the Ghost while not an atg is a good fighter. Lets compare stats, The Ghost good chin, decent power, good inside fighter, decent middle range fighter, decent ring IQ, and tries to adjust. Brandon Rios good chin, good power, dummer than a bag of rocks, doesn't adjust comes forward all day and take punches to the face for the fun of " being a warrior.
Now lets be real not saying Ghost a sure win but he has enough to beat Rios the fight is 50/50 and I give Ghost the edge because like Alvarado he can box and brawl and has enough power to keep people honest. But yet Pac is once again getting praised for fighting a guy off a lose with no skills but coming forward pressuring with his face out.
And the excuse is because he lost, well guess what check other atgs the lose and came back to fight legit threats, hearn, ali, srl, etc, etc but Pac gets a pass?
Am I missing something?
That I understand but at the same time you need to understand that this is a business. Products are always advertised to be better than they actually are, you don't make money off of people with honesty.
Sad but true reality, hopefully the undercard packed. I know one thing Alvarado better be really injured or that would be bogus he deserves a pay day.
True but khan is not consider atg and it's not ppv.. Don't get me wrong I don't want to see Pac get sparked out again trying to be to brave I just would like people and the media to take it for what it is a tune up
That I understand but at the same time you need to understand that this is a business. Products are always advertised to be better than they actually are, you don't make money off of people with honesty.
The same thing can be said of Amir Khan. He loss to Peterson is marred with controversy, and he was competitive in his fight with Garcia before getting sonned. Under those circumstances no one expects Khan to take on dangerous fights right away.
If Pacquiao destroys Rios with ease, so be it. A tune up fight is not supposed to be difficult. It is suppose to let the fighter no where they are, regain confidence and gain insight with regards to the areas they need to improve.
Also I have no problem with Bob Arum ( or whoever is from Pacquiao's camp) hyping up the fight. What do you expect them to say when trying to sell the product. ''Yeah Pacquiao should steam roll this opponent, give me all of your money''.
True but khan is not consider atg and it's not ppv.. Don't get me wrong I don't want to see Pac get sparked out again trying to be to brave I just would like people and the media to take it for what it is a tune up
but in no way should we have to pay to watch two losers fight.This right here. This fight isn't even PPV worthy. Shit, even Oscar let regular HBO get some of his last few fights. The fight should be on regular HBO and it would do MASSIVE ratings.
but you have to put things into prospective his lost to Brady was a lost on paper we all know who won, and to Marquez he was looking better than he looked since Cotto before he got caught. I know what you mean though the ko could have changed him, but people acting like Rios is a danger. If Pac is 60 percent of the guy who fought Marquez Pac is going to destroy him easy.
The same thing can be said of Amir Khan. He loss to Peterson is marred with controversy, and he was competitive in his fight with Garcia before getting sonned. Under those circumstances no one expects Khan to take on dangerous fights right away.
If Pacquiao destroys Rios with ease, so be it. A tune up fight is not supposed to be difficult. It is suppose to let the fighter no where they are, regain confidence and gain insight with regards to the areas they need to improve.
Also I have no problem with Bob Arum ( or whoever is from Pacquiao's camp) hyping up the fight. What do you expect them to say when trying to sell the product. ''Yeah Pacquiao should steam roll this opponent, give me all of your money''.
Jokes and immaturity put to the side, Pacquiao was recently knocked out, and hasn't exactly looked like a fighter at the top of his game in recent match ups. When you look at fighters like Amir Khan, who fought Diaz and Molina after getting knocked out, expecting Pacquiao to fight a dominant fighter on the back of 2 losses is unreasonable.
If I'm going to be honest I think him stepping in the ring with Rios is a bit stupid and it a sign that Bob Arum is more interested in cashing out on his fighter. It'd be more appropriate for Pacquiao to fight a fighter with a low output and low punching power so that he can actually tune up.
but you have to put things into prospective his lost to Brady was a lost on paper we all know who won, and to Marquez he was looking better than he looked since Cotto before he got caught. I know what you mean though the ko could have changed him, but people acting like Rios is a danger. If Pac is 60 percent of the guy who fought Marquez Pac is going to destroy him easy.
Rios is a 140 who just lost his last fight and he isn't even one of the top 140 and he lost to a fringe top ten fighter at 140 and will now get major fight at 147. I don't get that. Now he is exciting and has a good chin, Alvarado hurt him bad so not unbreakable, and PAC is coming off a brutal KO so I don't mind the fight as a tune up against a name opponent but in no way should we have to pay to watch two losers fight. I know both of them are popular but one isn't even a top fighter
That's my gripe with this fight
I got a couple things to say, but first please learn to use paragraphs.
Anyways, who says Floyd isn't an ATG? He is, but realistically he's he's not even near the top 20 ATGs of the sport. He's self proclaimed in my opinion because he never truly DOMINATED his weight classes by not fighting those that also could of stated they ruled it as there are multiple champions. At least he should of fought Paul Williams and 140 pound undefeated Cotto.
Guerrero tried to adapt? Seems like BS to me and I enjoyed the **** out of watching Floyd that night. Also, Manny threw over 1000 punches with Marg with Marg throwing over 800..
I give Floyd 55/45 to win against Manny. Back in 08-10 I got Manny pulling the upset 60/40.
I can insert paragraphs if you would like.....lol.. but let's get down to business. All the fighters people say Floyd ducked he tried to fight in there prime any true boxing fan knows this. Only duck I can honestly say is legit is Marg but money talks and baldimir offered more money at the time. And it's not about how many punches you throw it's how many you land (Canelo & trout) and how they affect you. Do you really think the Ghost output just dropped for no reason? Anyway I said this and always believed this May would beat manny not because he is not good it's styles. I want to see the fight but we all know if May wins now after the fight people will say he waited until Pac was washed up. But ask yourself why is it Floyd older been in the game about as long and outlasted all his rivals. And don't say cherry picking because he has fought good fighters. His problem was like a lot of young talent now when he was prime and other guys were prime he was not a name therefore high risk low reward.
Jokes and immaturity put to the side, Pacquiao was recently knocked out, and hasn't exactly looked like a fighter at the top of his game in recent match ups. When you look at fighters like Amir Khan, who fought Diaz and Molina after getting knocked out, expecting Pacquiao to fight a dominant fighter on the back of 2 losses is unreasonable.
If I'm going to be honest I think him stepping in the ring with Rios is a bit stupid and it a sign that Bob Arum is more interested in cashing out on his fighter. It'd be more appropriate for Pacquiao to fight a fighter with a low output and low punching power so that he can actually tune up.
Not unreasonable really. I think Rios is just a marketable punching bag to get Pacquiao's confidence back or see how much he's got left in the tank. Most should agree.
Definitely agree not saying I won't be watching it should be a good fight but the double standards are really crazy even in the media
I got a couple things to say, but first please learn to use paragraphs.
Anyways, who says Floyd isn't an ATG? He is, but realistically he's he's not even near the top 20 ATGs of the sport. He's self proclaimed in my opinion because he never truly DOMINATED his weight classes by not fighting those that also could of stated they ruled it as there are multiple champions. At least he should of fought Paul Williams and 140 pound undefeated Cotto.
Guerrero tried to adapt? Seems like BS to me and I enjoyed the **** out of watching Floyd that night. Also, Manny threw over 1000 punches with Marg with Marg throwing over 800..
I give Floyd 55/45 to win against Manny. Back in 08-10 I got Manny pulling the upset 60/40.
I completely agree they should have matched pac with Alvarado. Rios is just a sloppy B-level fighter with no head movement and minimal defense. His strategy is literally to get fighters to hit him so he can trade back with him. Manny needs to get away from arum so he can make a fight with floyd next year.
I would agree with you if this wasn't a pattern. I mean I like Pac I think he a great fighter but in the end, it should be labeled for what it is a warm up, people seriously acting like wow he has the balls to fight rios. Let's be honest Rios got schooled by Abril and is really not that great, manny should run through him.
Not unreasonable really. I think Rios is just a marketable punching bag to get Pacquiao's confidence back or see how much he's got left in the tank. Most should agree.
I would agree with you if this wasn't a pattern. I mean I like Pac I think he a great fighter but in the end, it should be labeled for what it is a warm up, people seriously acting like wow he has the balls to fight rios. Let's be honest Rios got schooled by Abril and is really not that great, manny should run through him.
Floyd is at a much better point in his career right now than Manny is in his.
You could at least take that as a victory for Floyd, but it seems you lot would rather just twist the spear.
Manny got knocked out brutally in his last fight, it's very, very rare that a fighter is the same after one like that.
Floyd has still yet to lose. It's fairly simple. In fact, he looked fantastic in his last fight. I even think he looked great in the Cotto fight