what is your ranking of Jr WW Division?

1.Garcia 2.Matts 3.Peterson 4.Khan 5.Alvarado 6.Rios 7.Judah 8.Khabib 9.Ajose 10.Crawford The only reason I did not put Crawford was because I did no know if he was staying at the weight..If so,fair to rank him in the top 10 after his showing..

hilarious how people use a robbery to discredit Lucas Matthysse and then have the nerve to say that he really lost the fight, lol. internet message boards for you

I have no problem with him being ranked between 7-10 I was just saying he is not relevant when were were talking about top 5 he did what he needed to do against stepping stones and gatekeepers but at 30+ he should be fighting better opposition He will. He was supposed to fight Prescott and Arum said if he won that he could fight Rios/Alvardo..... Suffered an unfortunate minor setback with an injury. But if he wins his comeback fight in July, he'll continue to step up. His career was progressing nicely until he has to withdraw from Prescott bout. He will be relevant to you by the end of the year, IMO

Garcia Lucas/Peterson Alvarado Provodnikov Judah Rios Khan

1.Garcia 2.Matts 3.Peterson 4.Khan 5.Alvarado 6.Rios 7.Judah 8.Khabib 9.Ajose 10.Crawford

No. He was coming off a loss to Judah, in which he dropped him and was actually winning before he got caught, and a COMPETITIVE UD loss to Van Heerden..... That fight was in South Africa as well. Before that he beat Fedchenko and Holt (hardly the best Wins) but the Mabuza win for khabib and the way he destructed him, was very impressive. IMO And Khabib went into Guzmans backyard and beat his ass when ALL of the cards were stacked against him. Seriously, the fix was in, from the ref , to the incompetent judge who scored it for Guzman. I could see how some people don't rate Khabib highly yet die to popularity, maybe. But it's about talent, no? And the talent is there..... I can't wait til he comes back. Khabib is/will beat both Alvardo and Rios, IMO :boxing: I have no problem with him being ranked between 7-10 I was just saying he is not relevant when were were talking about top 5 he did what he needed to do against stepping stones and gatekeepers but at 30+ he should be fighting better opposition

if we go by how we scored the fight I had Judah beating Lucas and Peterson losing to Khan so that's that and I wouldn't rank Devon Alexander or Malignaggi ahead of Pacquiao because he at welterwight right now since you brought it up now I'm curious to see your WW ranking but I'm guessing you wont hold those 2 losses against Pacquiao and wont put much weight in how badly Bradley looked wasn't mabuza on 3 fight losing streak at that point and what has he done since? and seriously Joan Guzman? I give him more props for beating Campbell tbh No. He was coming off a loss to Judah, in which he dropped him and was actually winning before he got caught, and a COMPETITIVE UD loss to Van Heerden..... That fight was in South Africa as well. Before that he beat Fedchenko and Holt (hardly the best Wins) but the Mabuza win for khabib and the way he destructed him, was very impressive. IMO And Khabib went into Guzmans backyard and beat his ass when ALL of the cards were stacked against him. Seriously, the fix was in, from the ref , to the incompetent judge who scored it for Guzman. I could see how some people don't rate Khabib highly yet die to popularity, maybe. But it's about talent, no? And the talent is there..... I can't wait til he comes back. Khabib is/will beat both Alvardo and Rios, IMO :boxing:

Judah beat Lucas how you scored that fight is for a different thread Judah fought better opponents and has better wins in the weight class so did Khan just because he lost to 2 of the Top 3 JrWW doesn't mean Khan drops behind a guy like Alvarado who 1. lost to unranked Rios 2. has fought a far weaker opponents and Kabib is not relevant as of right now maybe they will step up in competition this year but shouldn't be even mentioned yet IMO Khabib has stepped up in each of his last 3-4 fights. He is a legit top 10 ranked at 140 no matter what you say, so how can you say he is not relevant? How can you say Rios-Alvardo are relevant but not Khabib when their best wins are against each other, lol. aside from a win against the other. Rios-Alvardo résumé is pretty much the same as Khabibs (not including Abril W I thought was a blatant robbery) except Khabib has done it in about half the fights as Alvardo Is Prescott and Hererra REALLY that much more better then Campbell, Mabuza and Guzman?

Judah was got a robbery decision against Lucas. Judah only fought better opposition, he certainly didnt beat the better comp. Khan lost 2X in a row and has looked like sh1t ever since. If this was a year and a half ago, you'd have a case but he has lost. Does it matter who he lost to? Since when do loses not count against you in rankings? And those losses are what made those fighters "top fighters" that the funny part. Pac "lost" to 2 P4P ranked fighters, so you agree with him being ranked very high, correct? Alvarado has a win over Rios while Khan as a win over Molina at 140 in their most recent fights. Rankings are based on beating fighters not just fighting them otherwise Judah would be P4P#1 if we go by how we scored the fight I had Judah beating Lucas and Peterson losing to Khan so that's that and I wouldn't rank Devon Alexander or Malignaggi ahead of Pacquiao because he at welterwight right now since you brought it up now I'm curious to see your WW ranking but I'm guessing you wont hold those 2 losses against Pacquiao and wont put much weight in how badly Bradley looked Not relevant? :lol1: Like i said he has Judah's best win in 10 years but 4 rounds earlier and then beat Guzman. He has better wins at 140 in the last year then Judah has in about 8 years :lol1: He may not have fought Lucas, Garcia and Khan but he didnt loss to them either. Losses count against you otherwise emmanuel Augustus is an ATG and top fighter at 140:tragedy: wasn't mabuza on 3 fight losing streak at that point and what has he done since? and seriously Joan Guzman? I give him more props for beating Campbell tbh

Judah beat Lucas how you scored that fight is for a different thread Judah fought better opponents and has better wins in the weight class so did Khan just because he lost to 2 of the Top 3 JrWW doesn't mean Khan drops behind a guy like Alvarado who 1. lost to unranked Rios 2. has fought a far weaker opponents Judah was got a robbery decision against Lucas. Judah only fought better opposition, he certainly didnt beat the better comp. Khan lost 2X in a row and has looked like sh1t ever since. If this was a year and a half ago, you'd have a case but he has lost. Does it matter who he lost to? Since when do loses not count against you in rankings? And those losses are what made those fighters "top fighters" that the funny part. Pac "lost" to 2 P4P ranked fighters, so you agree with him being ranked very high, correct? Alvarado has a win over Rios while Khan as a win over Molina at 140 in their most recent fights. Rankings are based on beating fighters not just fighting them otherwise Judah would be P4P#1 and Kabib is not relevant as of right now maybe they will step up in competition this year but shouldn't be even mentioned yet IMO Not relevant? :lol1: Like i said he has Judah's best win in 10 years but 4 rounds earlier and then beat Guzman. He has better wins at 140 in the last year then Judah has in about 8 years :lol1: He may not have fought Lucas, Garcia and Khan but he didnt loss to them either. Losses count against you otherwise emmanuel Augustus is an ATG and top fighter at 140:tragedy:

TOP 5 Garcia Peterson Matthysse Alvarado Khan

Absolutely not. How do losses not affect your rankings? Khabib is easily ahead of judah. He beat judah's only good win (mabuza) by KO 3 rounds earlier and then kicked Guzman's ass while Judah lost 2X in that span. Its laughable, Khan and Judah losing are ranked higher then fighters with good wins. Judah should not be ranked at all, and Khan cannot be ranked above the 5 guys i posted, there's no possible way. Judah beat Lucas how you scored that fight is for a different thread Judah fought better opponents and has better wins in the weight class so did Khan just because he lost to 2 of the Top 3 JrWW doesn't mean Khan drops behind a guy like Alvarado who 1. lost to unranked Rios 2. has fought a far weaker opponents and Kabib is not relevant as of right now maybe they will step up in competition this year but shouldn't be even mentioned yet IMO

not really big fan of both I used to be Judah fan back in the day before he started to look for ways out of the fights but I think both should be ranked higher 4 for Khan and 5 or 6 for Judah IMO Khan should be ranked higher then Alvarado no question 1.Garcia 2.Matthyse 3.Peterson 4.Khan 5 .Alavardo or Judah Absolutely not. How do losses not affect your rankings? Khabib is easily ahead of judah. He beat judah's only good win (mabuza) by KO 3 rounds earlier and then kicked Guzman's ass while Judah lost 2X in that span. Its laughable, Khan and Judah losing are ranked higher then fighters with good wins. Judah should not be ranked at all, and Khan cannot be ranked above the 5 guys i posted, there's no possible way.

But you think Khan and Judah are underrated simply because you like them, thats your system. Having Khan or Judah anywhere ahead of Lucas, Garcia, Peterson, Alvarado or Khabib is ridiculous not really big fan of both I used to be Judah fan back in the day before he started to look for ways out of the fights but I think both should be ranked higher 4 for Khan and 5 or 6 for Judah IMO Khan should be ranked higher then Alvarado no question 1.Garcia 2.Matthyse 3.Peterson 4.Khan 5 .Alavardo or Judah

just to be clear I was not asking for list of your favorite I'm asking for legit ranking and if you do have specific system please do explain dont think are is just one flat out legit ranking by an organization, everyone just has their opinion really

just to be clear I was not asking for list of your favorite I'm asking for legit ranking and if you do have specific system please do explain But you think Khan and Judah are underrated simply because you like them, thats your system. Having Khan or Judah anywhere ahead of Lucas, Garcia, Peterson, Alvarado or Khabib is ridiculous

Judah has recent wins of Matthysse Mabuza and Paris If you won't give him Lucas win then be consistent and don't hold Peterson over Khan and Rios over Abril if he drops in your ranking because he was losing to Mabuza before stoppage then why not do the same fr Alvarado who was losing to prescott Paris was a prospect who never fought anyone, bringing him up in judah's wins is just grasping straws. He clearly lost to Lucas as well. Judah has been horrible but people still think he's overrated after he lost 10 times and has beat 1 ranked fighter in 10 years Peterson had a very close fight with Khan, which could have gone either way, sorry but Khan lost the fight. He didnt drop in rankings because he was losing to Mubaza, he dropped because he lost to lucas, Khan and Garcia yet he's "underrated". Like i said he beat 1 ranked fighter in 10 years and that was mubaza, who he was losing too

just to be clear I was not asking for list of your favorite I'm asking for legit ranking and if you do have specific system please do explain

Underrated? :lol1: Judah has beaten like 1 ranked fighter since beating Cory spinks like 10 years and that was Mabuza, who he was losing to before catching him. Khan has lost 2X and then looked horrible and barely beat Diaz. Judah has recent wins of Matthysse Mabuza and Paris If you won't give him Lucas win then be consistent and don't hold Peterson over Khan and Rios over Abril if he drops in your ranking because he was losing to Mabuza before stoppage then why not do the same for Alvarado who was losing to prescott

Garcia Matthyse Peterson Alvarado Khan Rios Crawford Judah Provodnikov Prescott I Roll with this list. Except for Prescott.