Seriously I've been watching boxing for years, but anyone else get annoyed with those older boxing fans who stopped watching boxing like 20 to 15 years ago and call boxing dead?
I come across a lot of them at work especially when big fights come up. I remember this older guy who told me about Hearns and Duran and they don't make fighters like that anymore, and I agreed with him I said that was the golden era, and I asked him who do you watch today? he said he hasn't watched boxing since 1995.
LOL wtf? Don't talk about boxing then how can you say they don't make them like they used to anymore if you don't even watch it. I can't stand guys like this, they stopped watching boxing and than claim the sport is dead. I been watching boxing since the 80s. I never stopped since.
Pacquiao and Marquez fights are up there with some of the best, both are true warriors who will not stop till they get knocked out, you got Mayweather even though he doesn't fight the guys we want to see he is very skilled, You have warriors like Rios and Alvarado who are similar to guys like Danny red lopez and Bobby schoolboy chacon.
You got a lot of great fighters and matches from the 2000s Diego Corrales vs. Castillo, Gatti Ward, Morales Barrera trilogy, Pacquiao Barrera, morales. Mosley vs Margarito, Cotto Margarito, Sergio Martinez P will, Rios vs. Alvarado, Juan ma vs Salido, the list goes on and on.
Bradley vs Ruslan one of the more recent ones, Man I could name so many great fights.
CCTV and later PPV has always been around for all the big fights.
The type the TS describes probably only watched a handful of fights and that somehow makes him a educated fan in his own mind. There is something about boxing that brings the stupid out in the casuals for them to even pretend to speak on the sport, it must be a 'man-card' thing to talk big about boxing even when you don't know ****.
If i remember right, in the 80's all the big fights were shown on normal tv in the uk. If not live then the next day.
Due to not having Sky back in the late 90's, i also stopped watching. But then found 'the internet'.
Plus in the 80's it was so popular. Many of these so called boxing fans are really just arm chair sports fans. They dont actually love the sport enough to find a way to watch fights.
But many were put off by all the ppv stuff. Like my uncle who is still a huge boxing fan, but finds it impossible to watch the big fights and stay up to date.
Television killed the club shows
and pay per view killed the casual fan
CCTV and later PPV has always been around for all the big fights.
The type the TS describes probably only watched a handful of fights and that somehow makes him a educated fan in his own mind. There is something about boxing that brings the stupid out in the casuals for them to even pretend to speak on the sport, it must be a 'man-card' thing to talk big about boxing even when you don't know ****.
*butts into conversation* man what about Mike tyson? ... he was unbeatable that night he fought Mohammed Frazier ... he'd whoop your Drago brothers.
Mohammed Frazier? Pfft. He was a joke. Didn't he get knocked out by Ray "Motor City Haggler" Duran?
The only part of boxing I've stopped watching is the heavyweight division. I haven't enjoyed any heavyweight since Holmes, although I could tolerate Holyfield.
to be honest I cant stand boxing fans TODAY! always have excuses for EVERYTHING!
If a fighter wins theres an excuse if a fighter loses theres an excuse.
These "fans" hype up a boxer but as soon as he loses, they talk down on him smh.
You can still be a fan of a fighter after he loses but not like before because now you can see his flaws exposed and theres nothing wrong if you don't like him anymore
to be honest I cant stand boxing fans TODAY! always have excuses for EVERYTHING!
If a fighter wins theres an excuse if a fighter loses theres an excuse.
These "fans" hype up a boxer but as soon as he loses, they talk down on him smh.
give the top rank and Golden Boy brand to Don King he'll make all those guys fight eachother
NBA die in 2004 with all the new rules change , you can thank the pacers and pistons brawl + the dead of the centers
Seriously I've been watching boxing for years
Do us all a favor and stop watching too. It hurts to read youre stupidity on a daily basis
eh than don't go in my threads. I bet you are a young kid too don't disrespect your elders.
You just reminded me of Jack Dempsey saying television is killing boxing because it made people less likely to pay to watch a fight. I think it was back in the 50s or something, he said boxing was on its last legs and wouldn't last five more years.
Yeah Dempsey during this time would know so much about the impact of television on boxing.
it's so simple what eventually ruined boxing, like a last twist of the knife in their own foot..........the pay per view.
no longer can the casual fan enjoy a night of top notch boxing without shelling out $50 - $60. no longer do they talk on lunch breaks or around the water cooler about our sport. Why?..... because the vast majority never even see it. So they say: Ah, who cares, the ****s all rigged anyway. That's our new mileniums casual fan.
Television killed the club shows
and pay per view killed the casual fan
.......... Rockin':boxing:
True.
Actually if you look at all sports its bad....While any Lawyer and 3 dollar whore can put on a biker jacket and go to a Raider's football game, most real bikers could never afford a ticket. Baseball? I used to go to Yankee stadium with a ten spot and get fed and a bleacher's seat...usually with a give away like "bat day" etc....Today? If I wanted to take my kids out to the San fran giants? set me back over a hundred.
Its interesting though...My one boy wanted to go to see "grave digger" a monter truck show...when I went with him, I saw nothing but working clas Americans...when he wanted something to eat? had nachos with real chicken, cheese and fixings and the guy said something like "give me five bucks." So if you are wondering where all the fans are? I have no interest in monster trucks but being with my kids? great food, at affordable prices? this is how fandom starts after all.
I love boxing but unless I beat the cable guys on occasion there is no way I am spending the money to keep up and its a shame because I would love to sit with my boys and show them how a great fighter operates and create fans...
Boxing and all sports are killing their fan base and creating a bunch of mercianary athletes who compete in syndicates known as free agentcy. There is no loyalty...I stopped watching baseball years ago...guys can hit and pitch a baseball better than ever in history buta team? show me Billy Martin ready to slug the ump and marshmellow salesmen and the guys during the seventies...and football? ha! the refs suck so bad they destroyed the sports before the price of a game frankly. Until recently most superbowls were determined by a blow out (why watch anyway?) or a ****ty call. No thank you.
Boxing. Heck King at least had good shows, the **** they ask us to swallow now.... The incompetant judges.... I mean boxing has only itself to blame. Hopefuly Diana is smart enough (and he might be) to keep ****ting on boxing and making MMA more plebian...like Monster Trucks, hence encouraging fans to get involved and take an interest. Time will tell
it's so simple what eventually ruined boxing, like a last twist of the knife in their own foot..........the pay per view.
no longer can the casual fan enjoy a night of top notch boxing without shelling out $50 - $60. no longer do they talk on lunch breaks or around the water cooler about our sport. Why?..... because the vast majority never even see it. So they say: Ah, who cares, the ****s all rigged anyway. That's our new mileniums casual fan.
Television killed the club shows
and pay per view killed the casual fan
.......... Rockin':boxing:
You just reminded me of Jack Dempsey saying television is killing boxing because it made people less likely to pay to watch a fight. I think it was back in the 50s or something, he said boxing was on its last legs and wouldn't last five more years.
it's so simple what eventually ruined boxing, like a last twist of the knife in their own foot..........the pay per view.
no longer can the casual fan enjoy a night of top notch boxing without shelling out $50 - $60. no longer do they talk on lunch breaks or around the water cooler about our sport. Why?..... because the vast majority never even see it. So they say: Ah, who cares, the ****s all rigged anyway. That's our new mileniums casual fan.
Television killed the club shows
and pay per view killed the casual fan
.......... Rockin':boxing:
Couldn't agree more.
As Ross Greenburg himself said:
"I can't tell you that pay-per-view helps the sport because it doesn't. It hurts the sport because it narrows our audience, but it's a fact of life. Every time we try to make an HBO World Championship Boxing fight, we're up against mythical pay-per-view numbers. HBO doesn't make a lot of money from pay-per-view. There's usually a cap on what we can make. But the promoters and fighters insist on pay-per-view because that's where their greatest profits lie."
"It's a big problem," Greenburg continues. "It's getting harder and harder to put fighters like Manny Pacquiao on HBO World Championship Boxing. If Floyd Mayweather beats Oscar, he might never fight on HBO World Championship Boxing again. But if HBO stopped doing pay-per-view, the promoters would simply do it on their own or find someone else who will do it for them."