Its funny how the floyd mayweather haters who are demanding the canelo fight, as they see canelo as having the best chance at beating Floyd, are inherently just acknowledging how ridiculously good and skilled mayweather is. Brb, the only person who has a chance at beating Floyd will outweigh Floyd by something like 25 pounds come fight night. Really? That's the kinda advantage that someone needs to be able to beat mayweather?
That's how crazy skilled Floyd is...
Note: not saying anybody who wants to see canelo and Floyd fight is a hater, I want to see it, but just saying.
Well when Floyd himself claims he is better than Robinson and Ali people will expect you to back it up.
He is not going to get that kind of respect fight guys like Guerrero. No one will even remember Robert Guerrero's name in a few months outside of hardcore boxing fans.
Right now the fights he wants do nothing for him legacy wise other than to have his fans part with their money to buy his next Bentley.
Great for his bank account and his kids college fund but not so great if you want to be remembered as the best.
Bingo right there
BTW, do you hold canelo to the same standard? Canelo avoiding ward?
LOL everything you said is just spin and jibberish to justify you way of thinking.
No if Canelo held a belt at the same division as ward and wouldn't fight him Ill call him a duck too?
What so fucking hard to understand, they both hold a belt at the same division?
Since they both have a belt at 154, who do you think is the better out the two at 154?
"If Floyd did what other fighters do, he'd be fighting 135-140....who the f would beat him?"
Exactly!
Instead he just fights at his natural, walk-around training weight and is still a class above everyone else.
So now look for a guy that outweighs him by 20-25lbs in the ring, and if he beats him let's keep going . . . get Ward, then Hopkins, etc etc. Ridiculous.
roy wasn't a hwt he just won a title there. manny wasn't a 151 lber he just won a atitle there. right?
People should want this fight. I just hope there isnt a weight clause or a rehydration clause since there will be a 20 lb difference on fight night. A weight clause will give people more to criticize.
I disagree with that. While Roy wasn't 200lbs+, there was no catchweight involved, therefore his title is legit.
Most solid post? Only thing your post has solidly proven is your comprehension sucks...
But sure, since your jimmies are rustled, I'll address your post.
Nobody is using it as an excuse for Floyd to not fight canelo....that wasn't the intention of this thread. Because of Floyd's ridiculous skill level, even with the size disadvantage, its a reasonable fight to be made.
BTW, do you hold canelo to the same standard? Canelo avoiding ward?
The belt is irrelevant. What's relevant is Floyd actually being in a competitive fight, and such competitive fight requires the guy to outweigh him by 25 or so pounds on fight....I realize your comprehension is lacking so let me break that down for you....canelo is a much bigger guy, as illustrated by his fight night weight.
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yes, cotto is bigger than Floyd. And guess what, canelo is even bigger than cotto. Its up the ladder in size advantage we go, until we finally reach a point where the size advantage overtakes Floyd's ridiculous skill level. Before we know it, Floyd is gonna be 'ducking' Andre ward.
If Floyd did what other fighters do, he'd be fighting 135-140....who the f would beat him?That almost got going actually
Yup as I thought, This thread was intended to be a circle jerk for like minded indiviuals like the TS.
Case and Point 3 pages laters and my post still the most solid post here dismissing everything the TS said as just ***** spin.
Most solid post? Only thing your post has solidly proven is your comprehension sucks...
But sure, since your jimmies are rustled, I'll address your post.
when will the mayweather sympathizer's stop using the fight night weigh as the official pre-ready excuse for ducking canelo and if he fights canelo and loses that will be the excuse too.
Nobody is using it as an excuse for Floyd to not fight canelo....that wasn't the intention of this thread. Because of Floyd's ridiculous skill level, even with the size disadvantage, its a reasonable fight to be made.
BTW, do you hold canelo to the same standard? Canelo avoiding ward?
Weigh in weight is the only thing that matters, does Floyd have a belt a 154? is all that matters
The belt is irrelevant. What's relevant is Floyd actually being in a competitive fight, and such competitive fight requires the guy to outweigh him by 25 or so pounds on fight night....I realize your comprehension is lacking so let me break that down for you....canelo is a much bigger guy, as illustrated by his fight night weight.
They will always be intangibles in a fights, lol deal with it.
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Same situation with cotto but since cotto is shot to death it was okay but now same intangibles but with a fighter possible in his prime and now those intangibles are ridiculous lol.
yes, cotto is bigger than Floyd. And guess what, canelo is even bigger than cotto. Its up the ladder in size advantage we go, until we finally reach a point where the size advantage overtakes Floyd's ridiculous skill level. Before we know it, Floyd is gonna be 'ducking' Andre ward.
If Floyd did what other fighters do, he'd be fighting 135-140....who the f would beat him?
Wasnt to long ago that Canelo was a paper champion, a hypejob, and a class below elite but now that he beat Trout, and many here argued that he didnt even win and even some who are demanding this fight said that, he is now this beast. Im a big canelo fan and i would like to see him face some competetion before he gets in the ring with floyd. Winner of lara/Angulo for example then maybe one more and he will have a big fight on May 3rd 2014 against Floyd or Martinez.
I dont understand the rush
Byrd only did it for a few seconds. Then back to how it was. Those few seconds Floyd did not show anything.
Well you know, Mayweather was complaining at the ref non-stop. It's going to take a strong ref to ignore the star power.
There are many and they are plentiful.
I bet against Floyd but i have to admit after what i saw on Sat i am sure he is the best of his era, without a doubt, and on his way to being an ATG. His haters will say that he beat guerrero and who is that but for me it isnt just guerrero it is all the others he has beaten and made look like a very big step below his ability. I mean Guerrero landed 19% of his shots. Champions fight floyd and he makes them look like C-class.
Well when Floyd himself claims he is better than Robinson and Ali people will expect you to back it up.
He is not going to get that kind of respect fight guys like Guerrero. No one will even remember Robert Guerrero's name in a few months outside of hardcore boxing fans.
Right now the fights he wants do nothing for him legacy wise other than to have his fans part with their money to buy his next Bentley.
Great for his bank account and his kids college fund but not so great if you want to be remembered as the best.
If Mayweather isn't willing to face guys that can make 154lbs, he shouldn't have gone there in the first place. He only has himself to blame for people wanting this fight.
roy wasn't a hwt he just won a title there. manny wasn't a 151 lber he just won a atitle there. right?
People should want this fight. I just hope there isnt a weight clause or a rehydration clause since there will be a 20 lb difference on fight night. A weight clause will give people more to criticize.
Mayweather's most dangerous foes:
Canelo, Martinez both naturally bigger, fast and powerful guys.
And then down at 147... we always leave out Broner because they're boys. Which is really convenient for both of them because if Broner stops Paulie convincingly.. He is clearly the other dude at 147.
It kind of sucks that Floyd and Broner are trying to be all Klitchsko at welter from a pure fight-fan perspective. But I am speaking too soon- we need to see how Broner looks against Malignaggi. But for him to be at 147 and for Floyd to supposedly have 5 more fights campaigning around that weight.. That is a lot of fights and those 2 names never fighting is just going to become more and more noticeable.
Broner so far to me is entertaining. Just like how Floyd was early in his career. Hope Broner doesn't revert to the clinch for defense like Floyd did.
Floyd is held to a lesser standard than his peers. He only has to win one fight in 18months and people kiss his butt as being the best.
If Floyd fights Canelo, Floyd is going beyond the call of duty giving weight advantages away?. SSM fights Canelo, no big deal, just another day in the life or your average pro.......SSM didnt expect bravery awards, Floyd does.
Floyd is held to a lesser standard.Mosley is a WW, Floyd is a WW. What standard is Canelo held to if he's fought 99.99% WWs?
How brave is Canelo if he's only fought 1 JMW? Lopez was a career LW!!! Cotto, career LW I mean come on man.
You're tellin me Canelo/Floyd is a more legit fight than Canelo/Lara? Or Canelo/Martinez?.. FOOK it, Canelo/Ward?
I don't agree that's the only way, but I do agree that the ref should fighters fight.
Robert Byrd followed the same pattern as Cortez, in the first half of the fight he allowed Floyd to lock Guerrero's arm up repeatedly and would jump in while in the second half of the fight when Mayweather looked like KO-ng Guerrero he said 'box out'. It should have been 'box out' from the beginning, not just when it suited FMJ.
Byrd only did it for a few seconds. Then back to how it was. Those few seconds Floyd did not show anything.
Mayweather's most dangerous foes:
Canelo, Martinez both naturally bigger, fast and powerful guys.
And then down at 147... we always leave out Broner because they're boys. Which is really convenient for both of them because if Broner stops Paulie convincingly.. He is clearly the other dude at 147.
It kind of sucks that Floyd and Broner are trying to be all Klitchsko at welter from a pure fight-fan perspective. But I am speaking too soon- we need to see how Broner looks against Malignaggi. But for him to be at 147 and for Floyd to supposedly have 5 more fights campaigning around that weight.. That is a lot of fights and those 2 names never fighting is just going to become more and more noticeable.
when will the mayweather sympathizer's stop using the fight night weigh as the official pre-ready excuse for ducking canelo and if he fights canelo and loses that will be the excuse too.
Weigh in weight is the only thing that matters, does Floyd have a belt a 154? is all that matters
They will always be intangibles in a fights, lol deal with it.
Same situation with cotto but since cotto is shot to death it was okay but now same intangibles but with a fighter possible in his prime and now those intangibles are ridiculous lol.
Shut yo flip floping cry baby women beater supporting ass up.
Yup as I thought, This thread was intended to be a circle jerk for like minded indiviuals like the TS.
Case and Point 3 pages laters and my post still the most solid post here dismissing everything the TS said as just ***** spin.
or is it because canelo came in at 170-172 and floyd comes in at 150-152?those things don't seem to matter, like Margs wraps don't exclude him from discussions of past non fights.
The same people who cried Broner was 2 big for 30/35 (which he was) & Chavez jr for 60 (which he is) seem to dismiss Canelo coming in at LHW on fight night.
And the same people who claim the old timers were greater cuz they did same day weigh ins, scoff at the idea of Floyd/Canelo at 54 with same day weigh ins.
Then they bring up Oscar/Cotto? Neither of those guys blew up to LHW...
"Boxing is like jazz. The better it is, the less people appreciate it"- George Foreman
True, but Floyd isn't there to please Boxing fans more than trying to put asses in seats. I love Floyd's skills, but to him it doesn't matter if a genuine Boxing fan or a kid who thinks he's at Wrestlemania with his Dad is wacthing. They're all paying.
I don't care what ANYONE says, Money May aint neva gonna get no credit. It don't matter WHO Money fight.. haters will find a way to bash him. Money is held to standards no other fighter have ever been held too. That's how great Money is... now Money is ducking Junior Middlweights and Middleweight? Money a small Welterweight. Why don't he fight Klitschko? that's what yall want Money to do. Haters stay mad he's stacking that paper and laughing at you clowns. Money the best.
Floyd is held to a lesser standard than his peers. He only has to win one fight in 18months and people kiss his butt as being the best.
If Floyd fights Canelo, Floyd is going beyond the call of duty giving weight advantages away?. SSM fights Canelo, no big deal, just another day in the life or your average pro.......SSM didnt expect bravery awards, Floyd does.
Floyd is held to a lesser standard.
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