Steve Cunningham goes crazy on ATG radio after being disrespected (EPIC AUDIO !!!!!)

The ref is in the ring for a reason. You didn't address my point either, just tried to justify the mass whining going on because Fury fought dirty, you all act like you've never seen a Hopkins or Holyfield fight. Another one of those people that believe it's OK to fight dirty, if it was OK it wouldn't be called dirty would it. Maybe fans are expecting too much by wanting boxers to abide by the rules of boxing.

Point is, people need to stop complaining about what Fury did was "illegal", this is boxing, rough housing and illegal tactics are apart of the sport whether you like it or not, I wonder if the same people crying about Fury's "illegal" blow also think Hopkins should have been disqualified in practically every single fight he's had in the last 5 years? If people stopped complaining about illegal things in the sport and allowed everyone to do as these please it wouldn't be boxing would it?

Clinching is illegal too. ssssshhhhh a lot of people on here dont know that.

It doesn't matter what the likely outcome would have been, only what it was and how. Whatever the situation illegal is illegal. The punch which knocked out Steve wasn't an illegal punch. It was only a matter of time when that punch landed after Fury had slowed Steve down with the body shots. Steve was on the ropes because of the body shots and subsequent pressure. The forearm just sped things up a little, maybe by only a few seconds.

after rewatching the KO, I noticed Cunningham had still enough control of himself. Considering the ref was more leniant towards him then why didnt he get up and use his boxing skills to get back on track? Too late to cry wolf now! :bottle:

The likely outcome in any event is that Steve gets KOd in that fight - with or without the use of the forearm - agree or disagree? It doesn't matter what the likely outcome would have been, only what it was and how. Whatever the situation illegal is illegal.

The punch that landed due to his head be lifted up by the forearm is what caused the KO. You're using what might have happened to try defend what did happen again. The likely outcome in any event is that Steve gets KOd in that fight - with or without the use of the forearm - agree or disagree?

Agreed. Steve whinged post-fight and he got called out on it and didn't like the truth. Fact is, he was hurt from a Fury bodyshot and was getting KO'd anyway. Ref helped him enough as it is, took a point off Fury and wouldn't let him work the inside. The funniest thing is the guy who called him out has had a pro fight (not successful, but he's been in there) so that USS insult goes out the window. dude, you really need to learn the rules of boxing. you clearly have no clue. there was no truth in anything that moron said, from beginning to end it was just bull****. steve called him on it right away with that gravy train comment and it got no better from there. he was hurt by a bodyshot, you are right about that. but just because you hurt someone with a legal bodyshot you arent allowed to finish them off with a foul, and yes that finishing blow was a foul. in fact there were three separate blatant fouls between the bodyshot and the looping right hand that knocked USS out. and it wasnt just in the finishing moments, fury was fighting very dirty after cunningham dropped him. blatantly and intentionally using his head, using his forearms and excessively pushing, holding and leaning on cunningham. how can you say the ref helped cunningham? are you retarded for real? fury deserved to have that point taken off. it isnt exactly hard to tell when a 6'9 fighter headbutts a 6'3 opponent. i actually laughed as fury pretended he had no clue what the ref was doing after committing about as blatant a foul as i have ever seen. only the guy who thinks ortiz got screwed against mayweather could possibly get this wrong, i guess nothing is obvious enough for you to get it right. as for the ref "not letting fury work on the inside". man, you have been watching hatton too much. grabbing and leaning on your opponent is not working, in fact furys grabbing was the only thing keeping them from going to work. the ref is supposed to put a stop to it and make them go back to fighting which tbh he didnt do enough of. ohh and incase you were wondering, fighting is when take your hand, ball it up into a fist and punch your opponent above the belt. thats legal in the sport of boxing. holding, headbutting, pushing etc.. these are actually fouls. let me reiterate.. punching=legal... headbutting, excessive holding and pushing=illegal.. i know right.. all this time you have been thinking ortiz did nothing wrong by headbutting mayweather while floyd committed an atrocious foul by punching him in the face after the ref said box. thinking hatton got screwed against mayweather because he wasnt allowed to clinch every round and now the fury-cunningham fight. again, its about damn time you learn the fcking rules. and as for USS calling this guy out on his own experiences, i really dont think having one fight, getting knocked out in a single round and never boxing again earns you any cred at all within the business. for him to then attack a world champion like that, to me it just shows where the real sour grapes are coming from just as clearly as who on this site has the least knowledge about boxing rules.

i'm not going to listen to this unprofessional garbage. the second the "host" let in a caller who was a "huge fury fan" he lost all credibility. these are the same caliber of "journalist" who pushed the rumor about broner being knocked out cold in sparring by errol spence. somebody want to give me a summary of what was said? i literally can't suffer through interviews / radio segments like this one. they're an insult to the history of the sport, and the journalists who recorded it. don't take everything so serious. A lot of these radio shows are very good EVEN THOUGH you may hear someone cussing here and there on air. ATG radio is 80 % a very good, professional radio show and sometimes they just have a little bit of fun. Overall it is one of the best boxing radio shows I know next to "leave it in the ring".

Disagree, the body shot set up the KO - Cunningham was hurt and moved back to the ropes as soon as it landed. The forearm maybe sped things up a little, allowing Fury to land that shot at that time - but he would have KOd Cunningham either way - with or without the forearm. The body shots were what did it, not the forearm. The punch that landed due to his head be lifted up by the forearm is what caused the KO. You're using what might have happened to try defend what did happen again.

The forearm set up the KO, it held his head up to receive the KO blow. It didn't happen in a different way. Your whole argument is based on what might have happened not what actually did. Disagree, the body shot set up the KO - Cunningham was hurt and moved back to the ropes as soon as it landed. The forearm maybe sped things up a little, allowing Fury to land that shot at that time - but he would have KOd Cunningham either way - with or without the forearm. The body shots were what did it, not the forearm.

i'm not going to listen to this unprofessional garbage. the second the "host" let in a caller who was a "huge fury fan" he lost all credibility. these are the same caliber of "journalist" who pushed the rumor about broner being knocked out cold in sparring by errol spence. somebody want to give me a summary of what was said? i literally can't suffer through interviews / radio segments like this one. they're an insult to the history of the sport, and the journalists who recorded it.

Nah, he's basically complaining that he got knocked out. The forearm is just a way for him, in his mind, to legitimize the complaint. If the KO happened in a different way, Steve would still be complaining about something else. The Adamek fight he had every right to complain because he clearly won the fight but the Fury fight he would have lost either way. The forearm set up the KO, it held his head up to receive the KO blow. It didn't happen in a different way. Your whole argument is based on what might have happened not what actually did.

So half the people replying to this thread believe its fine to cheat if you're winning. :smashfrea

I'm glad Fury beat him the way he did. If I knew Cunningham was such a crybaby I never would have been a fan. USS would have done exactly the same if possible and was excessively clinching all through the fight so should stfu.

Nobody asked you to come play with the big boys or whatever. Sheesh, the guy's clearly an obnoxious prick. He speaks as if he's a proven tough guy in the heavy weight decision that goes toe to toe, fit to lecture a decent pro who had the guts to get in with a top bigger HW. Then you see that vid and he's some skinny skinhead punk running round the ring like he's a jockey on a horse. Steve does winge a bit and both guys have a point, just terribly made there. Steve would've been better to have just remained calm and patronised him.

This I don't give a shiet if Steve is trained by Nazeem or Andrew fvckin Golota, foul is a foul, that KO was dirty, Tyson blinded USS with his forearm and Steve did not see that right hook. Plus fury pushed Cunningham to a corner, twice, which is also illegal. Cunningham has every right to complain, especially him, a guy who was robbed so many times in his career. Nah, he's basically complaining that he got knocked out. The forearm is just a way for him, in his mind, to legitimize the complaint. If the KO happened in a different way, Steve would still be complaining about something else. The Adamek fight he had every right to complain because he clearly won the fight but the Fury fight he would have lost either way.

Cunningham is obviously too butt hurt to just take his defeat like a man and admit he's got no business in the HW division. Truth hurts. Yeah I appreciate Tyson Fury talked a lot of ish in the build-up, some fighters do that, but when it's over you pay respect and move on. Fury did that, he said Cunningham was a good fighter and hurt him a couple of times. Cunningham on the other hand went the Zab Judah route (after Khan/Tszyu) playing the victim and talking about complaining to the commission about a fight he was about to lose anyway. SC gave a very good account of himself in the fight, he didn't need to sully it in that way. As regards this radio show, I have some sympathy with USS in that he didn't expect anyone to criticise him but that's life, people have opinions good and bad, not everyone can be a yes-man. Sure someone's opinion might be worth less because they're not an elite boxer or trainer, but they're still entitled to one.

Cunningham was a guest on ATG radio yesterday to talk about the Tyson Fury loss and a boxing fan and co-host of the show disrespects him and Cunningham (rightfully) goes crazy and verbally attacks him. Friggin EPIC !!! Rufus Defibaugh is the guy who disrespected him. Here is the video: Steve Cunninham owned him. He couldn't even answer when did he last fight and when was his last KO.

There's a difference between a reason and an excuse. Now, not to say USS wasn't on the way out soon anyways, however, what Tyson did was definitely an illegal foul to setup a knockout blow. This It depends on your point of view - everybody's reason for a loss could be called an excuse - and vice versa. I'm just surprised Steve is complaining since Nazim trains Hopkins who has been accused of "dirty tactics" for the majority of his career. The forearm was illegal but the actual knockout shot was perfectly legal and I don't think the forearm was responsible for the fight ending in a KO - I think it would have happened eventually either way. I don't give a shiet if Steve is trained by Nazeem or Andrew fvckin Golota, foul is a foul, that KO was dirty, Tyson blinded USS with his forearm and Steve did not see that right hook. Plus fury pushed Cunningham to a corner, twice, which is also illegal. Cunningham has every right to complain, especially him, a guy who was robbed so many times in his career.