So what exactly won Canelo the fight???

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the wide cards for either guy were a joke. the fight was close. I think you can reasonably have it wide, if you liked what one guy was doing you were going to like him in a lot of the close rounds and your score would reflect that. A close fight can have a wide score and still be close, all depends on who you gave the close rounds to which can all go to the same guy logically but don't have to. It is the flaw of using scoring to determine the closeness of the fight~

Trout's offense was more built around finding an escape route as oppose to mounting on an effective attack, even when he came forward his weight was on the back foot, jus' ready to pull back. I know I ain't the only one who saw this. His jab was ineffective as well, he was punching from too far out, or Canelo was weaving them. Trout's style is venom, but very unappealing to me, kind of urks me how he doesn't step into his punches. The fight was still very close, I didn't score it, gonna re-watch but I felt Canelo took it though, especially with the knock down.

The fight was close, no doubt about it. I cannot call it a blatant robbery or anything of the sort. The open scorecards though were ridicolous, and in my opinion made the fight stink by denying Trout any hope to ever win without a K.O. by round 8th.

Canela is a Mexican fighting in Texas, it's silly to think he won't get the decision every time. ODLH all but made it clear the whole promotion who was going to win. The only way for Trout to win was by KO and he's not that type of fighter. The best Canelo did last night was earn a draw IMO. I don't know how they had those wide scores for a guy that took multiple rounds off and barely threw the whole fight it seemed. the wide cards for either guy were a joke. the fight was close.

His power changed one round......one round. professional fights are judged differently to amateur ones u know, power counts and hurtful shots count and big draining body shots count.

His power changed one round......one round. he hurt trout on several occasions. you're asking yourself "who did more damage over the course of the round." there werer many occasions where alvarez did more damage i the round. trout was boxing well in spots, but he was missing a lot of his punches, and he wasn't always doing more damage. you can throw more punches, even land more punches, and still lose the fight. trout can stay at range and jab all round, even landing a few jabs. if canelo clocks him with a right hand and it drops him it's a 10-8 round. this is pro boxing. you score the effectiveness of the punches. many of the guys on this forum are hopeless fanboys, and can't score a fight anyway. this was a close fight. a close fight is not a robbery.

Clean, effective punches won him the fight. Trout came in hoping to jab em, jab em, turn em and grab em on his way to a win and that doesn't work in big fights like this. In the amateurs, all punches are equal, whether its a jab or a thundering body shot, its 1 point. In the pros, Trout can flicker out 58 jabs, land 20 of them and seemingly "control the round" but that gets erased when Canelo lands a vicous uppercut inside, a solid right to the body or that straight right hand he found a home with. Boxers need to learn to commit to their punches. Rigondeaux, moves and is very economical but when he throws, he commits and intends to hurt you. Even a light puncher like Pernell Whitaker even put enough behind his punches to get his opponent's respect. Trout wasn't getting anything behind his punches. He was inaccurate (that is not effective aggression), Canelo was making him miss, making him pay (defense/ring generalship) and landing the cleaner, harder punches. Close but clear win for Canelo. The only downside of last night was the open scoring and the margins of the judges scorecards. Perfect post on this subject.

I'm being serious. How did he win? hurt his man, knocked him down, was more dangerous throughout ... question for you... who landed the ... let's say 12 hardest punches? Who hurt the other guy and who didn't? trout threw more and missed more he did well and it was very close but I thought Canelo did enough to edge it. Scorecard were far too wide though.

Clean, effective punches won him the fight. Trout came in hoping to jab em, jab em, turn em and grab em on his way to a win and that doesn't work in big fights like this. In the amateurs, all punches are equal, whether its a jab or a thundering body shot, its 1 point. In the pros, Trout can flicker out 58 jabs, land 20 of them and seemingly "control the round" but that gets erased when Canelo lands a vicous uppercut inside, a solid right to the body or that straight right hand he found a home with. Boxers need to learn to commit to their punches. Rigondeaux, moves and is very economical but when he throws, he commits and intends to hurt you. Even a light puncher like Pernell Whitaker even put enough behind his punches to get his opponent's respect. Trout wasn't getting anything behind his punches. He was inaccurate (that is not effective aggression), Canelo was making him miss, making him pay (defense/ring generalship) and landing the cleaner, harder punches. Close but clear win for Canelo. The only downside of last night was the open scoring and the margins of the judges scorecards.

Canela fights like Laurent Boudouani used to fight. Strong fast precise punches in spurts. Canelo's defense was good but he don't punch in that posture

Trout was beating the f*ck outta the air....Nelo was slipping his shots styling on him....Trout was heavy with the jab rate and he landed some good body shots....he was in the fight all night...f*ck what the scores said I'm not into workrates...if a dude is throwing and missing...the guy making him miss must be rewarded so that has to be taken into consideration when scoring rounds imo...some rounds Nelo didn't do sh1t and some rounds he didn't do sh1t for 2 minutes but ended landing the "OOH" punch of the round....the fight was mad close....I don't have no complaints about Nelo getting the "W" at all my problem is with how WIDE the scores were....that took away from the beauty of a fight that was actually good in terms of action...even when Nelo wasn't throwing sh1t he remained dangerous and Trout was willing to exchange with him in DANGER range.....gutsy stuff imo if one guy(Calzaghe) is throwing and the other guy(Hopkins) is making him miss but occasionally gets clipped by jab or a straight to body but also delivering those "OOH" punches....can't complain really about him getting the "W" imo....the dude beating up the air might've LOOKED like he was handling things but if you're missing....you're not handling sh1t imo GREAT point. Let's not kid ourselves, Canelo was going to win this fight whatever happened. So fck the judges, we knew beforehand they were gonna favor Canelo, however this was no robbery. Trout put up a great effort and the fight was very close, but no doubt that Canelo was the winner.

Scorecards should most definitely have been closer but Canelo won the fight. Props to Trout who took his defeat gracefully, he put up a strong competitive performance, 'no doubt' he'll back. This thread sounds to me like a Mayweather fanboy getting in his excuses early, trying to downplay Canelo's win so he can take the heat of Mayweather slightly if he avoids Canelo.

Trout was beating the f*ck outta the air....Nelo was slipping his shots styling on him....Trout was heavy with the jab rate and he landed some good body shots....he was in the fight all night...f*ck what the scores said I'm not into workrates...if a dude is throwing and missing...the guy making him miss must be rewarded so that has to be taken into consideration when scoring rounds imo...some rounds Nelo didn't do sh1t and some rounds he didn't do sh1t for 2 minutes but ended landing the "OOH" punch of the round....the fight was mad close....I don't have no complaints about Nelo getting the "W" at all my problem is with how WIDE the scores were....that took away from the beauty of a fight that was actually good in terms of action...even when Nelo wasn't throwing sh1t he remained dangerous and Trout was willing to exchange with him in DANGER range.....gutsy stuff imo if one guy(Calzaghe) is throwing and the other guy(Hopkins) is making him miss but occasionally gets clipped by jab or a straight to body but also delivering those "OOH" punches....can't complain really about him getting the "W" imo....the dude beating up the air might've LOOKED like he was handling things but if you're missing....you're not handling sh1t imo

Most of his punches were pitty pat jabs. I had no idea pitty pad jabs won you fights. it did for mayweather.

The bold is not the fight I saw Ray my man. That's exactly what I saw, just watch this whole fight 2 hours ago and scored round 4,6,8 and 12 to trout and the rest to Canelo, the way Canelo was landing those body/chest shots on trout really impresses me, Canelo seem visibly tired around the 6th round which made trout up his workrate but I still didn't see him land anything that catches attention.

Ring Generalship was Canelo all day. No, it wasn't. It's Canelo was gassed all day. He wasn't even picking spots to get his punches off between those weak arm punches Trout was throwing. Both fighters were dog tired by the 4th, the difference is that one fought for about 30 seconds a round while the other had a consistent work rate. Like I posted in another thread, couldn't care less who won, it could've gone either way... but let's not act like one guy did a landslide more than the other. If anything, the KD in the 7th should probably be the deciding factor in what was an otherwise lackluster showing for both.

On my watch Canelo wasn't active enough, almost every time he opened up he was the better man landing the more telling blows but as I say he didn't do enough of this. He took long stretches off, giving Trout the impetus to dictate the action. He never appeared hurt from Trout's punches so I'm guessing Canelo is lacking in the stamina department, this would account for his relatively low output. I can't give rounds for fighting for 1 minute and then taking 2 minutes off, Trout made the action, Canelo reacted to it. 114-113 Trout.

All of Canelo's punches were harder than Trout's. There was a wide difference in the power of the two. Canelo landed some very stout and hard punches to the chest and body. Trout's facial expression registered shock and pain on many punches. I give him credit for getting back on his horse and still continuining to work, even though his punches had little effect. Canelo's jab was much stiffer, when he chose to throw. The knockdown had Trout in bad shape. I thought Canelo would swoop in for the finish if that happened. But he stayed patient and did seem to gas somewhat. There were at least two other times that Canelo landed a big uppercut and Trout seemed on the verge of going down but managed to keep himself together. Whereas I don't think Canelo ever looked too distressed. He slipped punches, masterfully, yes and what landed was ineffective. So to the very biased poster who says what won the fight was Canelo's MUCH harder and cleaner punches. I think one very hard punch is better than 4-5 soft punches. And the total punches landed were pretty even.

So, we're just ignoring Trout's body punches and straight lefts, are we? "Alvarez is going to corner and beat Trout to the body!" When Trout does that, "Trout only landed jabs."