Rigondeax the only loser in fight with Donaire

ppl are acting as if they really would pay to see a defensive genous at work...making his elite opponent look ordinary...yea rigo has enormous skill but he is boring...I'm not sayn that he was running...but he wasn't looking to entertain...he was looking to do minimal...real boxing purist appreciate what he did to the flash but I doubt they'd even shell out major cash to see him perform Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Actually, even a true boxing purist has to have a bad taste in his/her mouth after watching a fighter literally jogging around the ring at times and rarely engaging the other fighter. That's not boxing. In fact, had Donaire refused to pursue Rigondeaux, Rigondeaux would likely have received instruction from the ref to engage or suffer the possibility of disqualification. I've seen fighters disqualified for failure to engage, although I've never seen it happen outside of the heavyweight division. The reason Donaire didn't take the route is because he may have ended up suffering some damage to his stock in the process. Donaire is a big draw because the fans see that he is committed to entertaining them. Allowing doubt about that committment to set in would have made Donaire as much a loser on the business end as Rigondeaux was in this fight. You are a hater or an alt, Rigondeaux stood in front of Nonito from 1 to 5 and he didn't do $h1t, he was scared since the first round when he got tagged by a GR left hand and found that he could get hurt,and he did get hurt and almost stopped in the last round, to blame Rigondeaux who out throw and outland Nonito for lack of action, is very bias, on top of that Nonito looked huge and my opinion on the matter is that Arum and nonitos ppl knew that NY doesn't allow next day weighting, so they have all the advantages and Rigondeaux took the soul out of him...

So you're an alt of who? Pacbest, haven't see him in ahwile

The crying never stops. Nonoto got dominated and give a boxing lesson. Neither of these fighters are going to be PPV draws so even mentioning that is utter stupidity. The butt hurt from this is hilarious.

His style will only appeal to the purist but the sad part of that equation is that the purist do not command the dominating portion of the money to be made. So with real boxing fans and purist will know how great Rigo is and how offically he is a dangerous fight for anyone but to the mainstream casual fans will always reduce Rigo to nothing more then a scared running fighter. The casual fans are the money who pays the bills and write the paychecks for everyone involved in boxing, So boxing will always cater to them. Boxing is a business, doesn't matter who deserves it, its who can sell it. Too bad even nowadays the ranking bodies are such trash he still wont get his props ranking wise because of the ranking/sanctioning bodies being in bed with particular promotional company and or certain fighters. my 2 cents on the matter Actually, even a true boxing purist has to have a bad taste in his/her mouth after watching a fighter literally jogging around the ring at times and rarely engaging the other fighter. That's not boxing. In fact, had Donaire refused to pursue Rigondeaux, Rigondeaux would likely have received instruction from the ref to engage or suffer the possibility of disqualification. I've seen fighters disqualified for failure to engage, although I've never seen it happen outside of the heavyweight division. The reason Donaire didn't take the route is because he may have ended up suffering some damage to his stock in the process. Donaire is a big draw because the fans see that he is committed to entertaining them. Allowing doubt about that committment to set in would have made Donaire as much a loser on the business end as Rigondeaux was in this fight.

His style will only appeal to the purist but the sad part of that equation is that the purist do not command the dominating portion of the money to be made. So with real boxing fans and purist will know how great Rigo is and how offically he is a dangerous fight for anyone but to the mainstream casual fans will always reduce Rigo to nothing more then a scared running fighter. The casual fans are the money who pays the bills and write the paychecks for everyone involved in boxing, So boxing will always cater to them. Boxing is a business, doesn't matter who deserves it, its who can sell it. Too bad even nowadays the ranking bodies are such trash he still wont get his props ranking wise because of the ranking/sanctioning bodies being in bed with particular promotional company and or certain fighters. my 2 cents on the matter

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Rigo won the fight, but lost in the business aspect of things. There's no denying that. He showed he was very unmarketable and won't be likely to get big fights without taking a purse cut, more than likely....if he even gets them. Like another poster said....the media gives more respect to Cotto for losing to Mayweather than they do Rigo for beating Donaire... that says all you really need to know. He's an incredible talent, but is not someone you want to put money / effort behind to promote because it'll be a nightmare.

Here's my 2 cents on the matter. Agreed....

You guys gotta learn to come clean and give credit where its due. Rigo has 12 fights and beat one of the best p4p fighters in the world. In the next few years he should only get better with experience. This kid has wicked talent.

Butthurt general?

Alts galore ITT. :rofl:

donaire was definitely outboxed and deserved to lose the decision. However, i don't think he lost much else during the course of the fight, if it can even be called a fight. Rigondeax's style was so painfullly boring to watch that boos could be heard from the crowd as early as the 3rd round and continued until even after the final bell. What fans observed was donaire attempting to cut off the ring and putting himself at a significant disadvantage just to try and make any kind of fight of the match at all. Rigondeax, on the other hand, approached the fight as if he was the champion who's belt needed to be taken. And, even at that, he still chose an extremely cowardice approach, often seen jogging around the ring to avoid contact. Rigondeax's strategy worked. He forced a better fighter to consistently give up his advantage to try and make the fight a fight, and he was just effective enough with his potshotting to to warrant taking 8 of the 12 scheduled rounds. In the process, however, rigondeax may have hurt his stock more than he helped it. Boxing is only partly about winning. In fact, the sport is mostly about entertaining the fans. And, at the end of the day, the fans were bored to tears with this fight, and they know who to blame: Guillermo rigondeaux. Nonito donaire, on the other hand, maintains his stock and appeal, and has almost certainly learned a valuable lesson from his fight with rigondeax. That lesson is simply this: Don't fight boring "fighters" like rigondeax. It's a no win situation. Yeah, you may be able to run him down and get him out of there. But you could possibly fail to run him down, and look very bad trying to. Donaire is to be commended for fighting the best, and trying to give the fans what they want. In the future, however, he will be well advised to only take on fighters that will come to fight. This is, afterall, the entertainment business. Oh, and don't hold your breath for a rematch, either. The best way donaire can even the score with rigondeax is to let him drown in his own pitiful stock. That's my 2 cents. shut up!!!! Lmbo!! Heres what happened! The more seasoned better fighter won the fight!! Get over it and move on......

arum expected Donaire to win and now hes going to punish rigo from the sounds of it. Hes already going on about how its going to be hard to promote him and ****. I thought Doniare would KO him so Rigo deserves his due but I see them giving him crap fights and trying to find someone easy like Darchiniyan II for Donaire to get him back on track.

Banned or they'd just won't make accounts to troll, it.kills civil boxing talk. I see. Well, I'm not an Alt, and I'm here to discuss the sport of boxing. Can't promise my opinions will always make other users happy, but who could promise such a thing?

What I think you should do is do a little research and, perhaps, you'll see how other come forward fighters were able to get to slick fighters and even stop them. Stop looking for excuses for your idol because most of us are not buying into your nonsense. What did you want Rigo to do....stay right in front of Donaire and just trade punches??? Sorry, but that's not what boxing is all about. I'm tired of these so called fans of boxing crying every time their boxer/idol doesn't or is unable to win a fight. Like their idol is some sort of a God and there is no way they can loose. Man...get the hell out of here with that!!!! DONAIRE LOST PLAIN AND SIMPLE AND ONLY HE IS TOO BLAME!!!! ENOUGH WITH ALL THE DAMN CRYING!!!!!! Did you even read my post? I said Donaire lost and that I agreed with that decision. I also pointed out, however, that Donaire lost nothing in terms of marketability and appeal, and that's just as true. Rigondeaux, on the other hand, got major exposure for the first time in his professional career, and the result was a crowd of booing fans and a very concerned promoter. Guess those people are just haters too, right? I don't blame Rigondeaux for using a lot of movement and taking the more defensive role of the two, as that was really his only shot of winning. However, his movement was often blatant running, which is cowardly, and he rarely ever punched in combination or with any conviction. Bottom line: fans don't like fighters that don't, at all, fight. It's called boxing, but it's really the Fight Game.

Can't say I knew too much about Rigondeaux before the fight, so I'll admit his cowardly approach did surprise me. But you couldn't be more wrong about why the punch stats were so low. Punch numbers from many of Rigondeaux's fights reveal the same trend we saw develop in his fight with Donaire. Rigondeaux runs from the opposition, waiting for them to become frustrated and overcommit themselves. When a fighter runs so blatantly, as Rigondeaux does, punch numbers are going to be down. The average 122 pound fighter throws 61 punches per round. Rigondeaux often averages half that, and was true to that low punch output this last Saturday. It's clear that Rigondeaux has no regard whatsoever for the fans or the entertainment element of boxing, and he flat out admitted that before and after the fight. The reason Donaire was, and is, a big name and big draw, is because he's committed to entertaining the fans. The 122 pound division has rarely enjoyed any kind of significant exposure, but Donaire brought that to the division. He understood that it's not enough to merely win the fight. No, fighters have a greater responsibility than that. Donaire is now moving up, and with that move, the 122 pound division will once again drift off into obscurity. And Guillermo Rigondeaux offers nothing to stop that. Sad but true, my friend..... Sad but true. What I think you should do is do a little research and, perhaps, you'll see how other come forward fighters were able to get to slick fighters and even stop them. Stop looking for excuses for your idol because most of us are not buying into your nonsense. What did you want Rigo to do....stay right in front of Donaire and just trade punches??? Sorry, but that's not what boxing is all about. I'm tired of these so called fans of boxing crying every time their boxer/idol doesn't or is unable to win a fight. Like their idol is some sort of a God and there is no way they can loose. Man...get the hell out of here with that!!!! DONAIRE LOST PLAIN AND SIMPLE AND ONLY HE IS TOO BLAME!!!! ENOUGH WITH ALL THE DAMN CRYING!!!!!!

It means fake account on boxing site, usually to troll Wow. I'll admit, I'm still lost. How can an account be fake?

He's a boring fighter but that won't matter because he totally outclassed Donaire. If you want to be the man in that division, you gotta go through Rigo now. That alone makes him a big winner, not a loser. Not really. If a fighter isn't marketable, he's nothing, no matter how many fights or titles he wins. That why Bob Arum said the following after the fight: "I'm 81 years old and I'm probably going to have to do the best promoting job I've ever done," he said, laughing. ... "It was the exact opposite of the last two HBO fights we had. It was not a very engaging fight. ... When Rigondeaux stands and fights, the has a lot of power and a lot of skill, but running the way he does really makes it not a watchable fight. I had Donaire up by one point heading into the 11th, but clearly, Rigondeaux won the last two rounds. Clearly."

People act surpised that Rigo fought the way he did. If you know anything about him then you wouldn't be suprised. The man is a master technician. Hit and don't get hit. To what extent does Donaire get some of the blame for making the fight "not exciting"? He threw LESS than Rigo. And it wasn't because of his "shoulder" or "lack of preparation" or any other of the various excuses I've heard. He was flat out terrified about what was coming back at him ever time he threw a punch. I can't remember the last time I've seen a Top 5 p4p guy in his prime not be able to do anything he wanted in the ring like that. He wasn't "pressing the action" or cutting off the ring or even throwing punches. He did absolutely nothing in there. Rigondeaux took EVERYTHING away and looked leagues above Nonito. Can't say I knew too much about Rigondeaux before the fight, so I'll admit his cowardly approach did surprise me. But you couldn't be more wrong about why the punch stats were so low. Punch numbers from many of Rigondeaux's fights reveal the same trend we saw develop in his fight with Donaire. Rigondeaux runs from the opposition, waiting for them to become frustrated and overcommit themselves. When a fighter runs so blatantly, as Rigondeaux does, punch numbers are going to be down. The average 122 pound fighter throws 61 punches per round. Rigondeaux often averages half that, and was true to that low punch output this last Saturday. It's clear that Rigondeaux has no regard whatsoever for the fans or the entertainment element of boxing, and he flat out admitted that before and after the fight. The reason Donaire was, and is, a big name and big draw, is because he's committed to entertaining the fans. The 122 pound division has rarely enjoyed any kind of significant exposure, but Donaire brought that to the division. He understood that it's not enough to merely win the fight. No, fighters have a greater responsibility than that. Donaire is now moving up, and with that move, the 122 pound division will once again drift off into obscurity. And Guillermo Rigondeaux offers nothing to stop that. Sad but true, my friend..... Sad but true.