I want to make something clear, that there is a difference between being a great boxer and having superstar status. For example, I believe Pernel Whitaker was a great fighter but he never reached superstar status like DLH or Floyd simply because his style wasn't exciting to casual fans and he wasn't charismatic enough.
In order to be a superstar you have to have talent, there's no doubt about that. We know Canelo has talent, what level of talent we will see this weekend, but let's make no mistake about it, he's a star in this sport.
One thing I notice going from gym to gym as I do through the week, is that EVERYONE is talking about this fight. Even more so than other fights, it has an air about it that reminds us of the great fights. Canelo has everything you would want as a promoter and manager. He is good looking, charismatic, appeals to the Latino fan base and has the skills and potential to be what everyone thinks he could be.....great.
It's easy to see why Golden Boy is rolling out the red carpet for him in his career. Promoters don't invest in a bum, in a kid with no talent. They invest in potential in and out of the ring and Canelo has it.
I'm not sure if Canelo wins this weekend, he could lose but if he wins, we could see the beginning of the next big star in the sport. Which is something that we always need.
Happy collecting, these are times when the LA version of cua surface, I'm sure.
Haha not at all, I don't bet with people that don't pay. I just shelled out $300 on the Donaire fight.
He's a star in Mexico and with many Mexican Americans. No doubt about it. He could still walk down the street unbothered in the US, but that looks like it will change if he can fight some names and develop a personality. He has the potential to be huge if the right things happen.
there are boxing stars, and then there are SuperStars....
Tyson, Holyfield, Canelo, Delahoya, Mayweather, Ali, Pacquiao..are Superstarts
These are guys you can mention to the general public and they would atlest have some notice of them...Canelo soon atlest...
I like your Avatar . but reading the name of Alvarez in one sentence with those legends is bad for eye .
Messi >>>> yao ming and plankioa deal with jet li jr
and he's more famous in south american and africa as well
1. In his sport i agree.
2. Im not asian.
his own 60 mins special, the only reason he's not more famous in the U.S is due the nations lack of interest in the sport
he's 100x more famous then pac and yoa ming's bum ass
1. that wasnt his own 60 minute special. He had a segment.
2. Ronaldo is more famous in the U.S. than him.
3. In europe.
Messi is not the superstar that HE SHOLD BE because he doesnt look like your typical superstar. He's short and doesnt have a flashy personality.
those are exceptions not the rule. duran also fought when boxing was still somewhat a major sport and was augmented with great american boxing stars like hagler, leonard, and hearns.
messi is a star soccer player, but he really hasnt transcended his sport like Ronaldo. Guess what? Ronaldo speaks english.
If Messi walked the streets of new york nobody would notice him. If he walked the streets of arizona he would probably get racially profiled, possibly arrested by sheriff joe.
You're reaching now sir
Roberto Duran, Lio Messi,
those are exceptions not the rule. duran also fought when boxing was still somewhat a major sport and was augmented with great american boxing stars like hagler, leonard, and hearns.
messi is a star soccer player, but he really hasnt transcended his sport like Ronaldo. Guess what? Ronaldo speaks english.
If Messi walked the streets of new york nobody would notice him. If he walked the streets of arizona he would probably get racially profiled, possibly arrested by sheriff joe.
you cant be a real star unless you speak some english or try to speak.
I dont understand why some of these mexican fighters dont even try. Is this some point of mexican pride to not try to speak it? I dont know.
you have to speak english otherwise you cant really be a mainstream star.
If yao ming and pacquiao can do it, i dont see why mexicans cant do it.
Maybe because they are from a country that speaks Spanish?
Also, JMM speaks english, so does Barrera and Canelo tries. He's learning, he will be speaking it soon.
you cant be a real star unless you speak some english or try to speak.
I dont understand why some of these mexican fighters dont even try. Is this some point of mexican pride to not try to speak it? I dont know.
you have to speak english otherwise you cant really be a mainstream star.
If yao ming and pacquiao can do it, i dont see why mexicans cant do it.
He is that, he's just not good enough to sustain that status. Not at this point. He's no better than any of the other fighters at 154. A superstar proves he's better than most, if not all, of the top fighters around him. Saturday proved canelo is still raw and has a long way to go.
The only thing missing is skill on elite level which we have yet to see if he has. He's definitely is a very, very good fighter but if he beats let's say, Martinez or Mayweather, then we are talking something on another level.
Yea, then he would have proven to be excellent, the only way to reach that very top level of stardom is to have "it" and then prove to also be one of if not the best out there.
I wouldn't say he needs to win those fight though he just needs to give them hell and prove he is pretty much their equal, although winning would certainly be better.
Well I won the $1,000 and collect today at the gym. It was a fantastic fight and I scored it like this:
Canelo Trout
Rd 1 10 10
2 10 9
3 9 10
4 9 10
5 10 9
6 10 9
7 10 8
8 9 10
9 10 9
10 10 9
11 10 9
12 9 10
Total = 116 112
Before some of you jump all over me, I scored it twice and got the same result. People have to understand that you can have close rounds and still give most of them to one fighter.
I thought Canelo's defense was the key in this fight, not his power. Trout threw a lot but he missed a lot. You have to have EFFECTIVE AGGRESSION, it can't just be throwing a ton of punches.
Canelo landed the cleaner shots, dropped Trout in the 7th and made him miss a lot. I was really impressed with Canelo, he showed another dimension a lot of people didn't know he had.
Happy collecting, these are times when the LA version of cua surface, I'm sure.
Canelo certainly has "it" whatever "it" is. I don't know if I would call him a superstar yet in the US (in Mexico he is without a doubt) but only because I think there is another level he can reach beyond his current status.
The only thing missing is skill on elite level which we have yet to see if he has. He's definitely is a very, very good fighter but if he beats let's say, Martinez or Mayweather, then we are talking something on another level.
Canelo certainly has "it" whatever "it" is. I don't know if I would call him a superstar yet in the US (in Mexico he is without a doubt) but only because I think there is another level he can reach beyond his current status.
there are boxing stars, and then there are SuperStars....
Tyson, Holyfield, Canelo, Delahoya, Mayweather, Ali, Pacquiao..are Superstarts
These are guys you can mention to the general public and they would atlest have some notice of them...Canelo soon atlest...
I do understand what you mean that a round is so close it can go to either guy and they could be many in a fight.
This fight had a lot of rounds that could had been scored depending of what the judge (or viewers) likes.
Exactly and that's my only point. Take the Cotto vs Mayweather fight, I thought it was very competitive but gave Mayweather 8 of the 12 rounds.
Now if you see that, you might think I was blind in my scoring but even though some of the rounds were close, most of the close one's I scored for Mayweather.
The numbers don't reflect in the actual competitiveness of the fight. I scored it 116-112 for Canelo but there were some really close rounds.