I really don't see anyone in or around Rigo's weight class beating him...the closest guys (and in this order)...
Mares
Mikey Garcia
Moreno
Garcia and Moreno are both boxers. Moreno is a brilliant boxer but he doesn't have the power. Garcia would give Rigo more trouble than Donaire but I think Rigo's speed would win out. Mares showed the blueprint on how to fight a superior boxer in his Moreno fight. He MADE Moreno fight his fight. Only problem is, Moreno has no power. Rigo would make Mares pay for his aggression, but I still say he has the best chance.
And to add to you analysis, I don't think another bantamweight in the world could have endured all those power shots Donaire's face received before finally cracking in the last round. Everyone else 122lb and under would have been stopped by round 6. Rigondeax can fight with greater offensive aggression from here on out and look to walk people down like he did Donaire in rounds 1-4 and 12 because he has the defensive reflexes and movements like that Mayweather shoulder roll in his arsenal.
He had to be cautious about pushing the issue with Donaire and it was the wise and mature decision to make - defense wins championships
No need for a Donaire rematch.. It would be the same out come, Donaire might win 1 or 2 more extra rounds but his 1 punch trying to KO his opponent style doesnt match well with a pot shot back peddler.
I would absolutely love that, few questions. Do you think Quigg would come over to the states for the fight, by when do they have to make the fight according to the WBA?
He starts talking about Rigondeaux at 2:39. Sounds like he doesn't feel ready for the step-up. I wonder if the WBA will force the fight to happen though.
I think Rigo will fight the Terrazas/Mijares winner next, then fulfill his WBA mandatory obligation against Quigg, and then fight Darchinyan (assuming he wins his fight in May) early next year.
Personally, I think beating Donaire/Terrazas/Quigg would put him up in contention for FOTY.
I would absolutely love that, few questions. Do you think Quigg would come over to the states for the fight, by when do they have to make the fight according to the WBA?
I really don't see anyone in or around Rigo's weight class beating him...the closest guys (and in this order)...
Mares
Mikey Garcia
Moreno
Garcia and Moreno are both boxers. Moreno is a brilliant boxer but he doesn't have the power. Garcia would give Rigo more trouble than Donaire but I think Rigo's speed would win out. Mares showed the blueprint on how to fight a superior boxer in his Moreno fight. He MADE Moreno fight his fight. Only problem is, Moreno has no power. Rigo would make Mares pay for his aggression, but I still say he has the best chance.
My money is on the Mijares - Terrazas winner. We all know how Uncle bob works. He is going to try to capitalize on the Mexican market.
Nothing would be sweeter than Rigo unifying all that gold.
when do those guys fight and is it on tv?
As a fellow Nacho-natic (terrible, I know, but Cult of Rigo is taken), I hope you can see the larger point. The little things that Rigo did wrong are not big in the grand scheme of things, but pros like Floyd or Nonito or JMM dont' do them for a reason.
Its not a human nature thing to look at the ref when the boxers is in front of you, its a hold over from amateur days. Avoidable.
No big deal; I'm just excited for Rigo. He might be 32 (who knows), but since el Terrible retired and JMM is on his last legs, i got someone new to spank it to.
It's all I had to read... :wank: You are a great all mighty new comer. Welcome to nsb and Rigondeaux Nation.
He can have a mental lapse... but I'm certain it's not because he is an amatuer rather a human being... lmao. C'mon, there is way too much being expected out of Rigo bro...
As a fellow Nacho-natic (terrible, I know, but Cult of Rigo is taken), I hope you can see the larger point. The little things that Rigo did wrong are not big in the grand scheme of things, but pros like Floyd or Nonito or JMM dont' do them for a reason.
Its not a human nature thing to look at the ref when the boxers is in front of you, its a hold over from amateur days. Avoidable.
No big deal; I'm just excited for Rigo. He might be 32 (who knows), but since el Terrible retired and JMM is on his last legs, i got someone new to spank it to.
I think the point was that Rigo has some leftover amateur habits and tends to have certain mental lapses.
And I agree.
He can have a mental lapse... but I'm certain it's not because he is an amatuer rather a human being... lmao. C'mon, there is way too much being expected out of Rigo bro...
Well he definitely has a keen eye for mistakes. The fact that he is trying to convert Rigo in the "perfect" fighter is hilarious. C'mon man.. adjusting your trunks? Looking at the ref? Holy crap! lol
I think the point was that Rigo has some leftover amateur habits and tends to have certain mental lapses.
Great observations !! I made several of those same ones myself - that knockdown was completely avoidable and the end result of some dirty boxing on Donaire's part, but its Rigondeaux's responsibility to protect hiself at all times.
And I agree.
Great observations !! I made several of those same ones myself - that knockdown was completely avoidable and the end result of some dirty boxing on Donaire's part, but its Rigondeaux's responsibility to protect hiself at all times.
It's really not worth it to collect any other belts, just defend the two you've earned and save any additional sanction fees, especially IBF because they're the highest - everyone knows that he is the man and he can just rack up on spectacular stoppage after another at 122lbs until time dulls his reflexes
Yeaaah... :popcorn:
Hopefully Terrazas.
I don't know if i'm making too much of it, but I noticed a few things that may be product of his amateur background: as intently focused as he is; he can get distracted.
I think that's why Diaz at one point demanded him to pay attention.
Little things that can be costly
1) He looks at the ref when the ref talks! Never noticed a boxer do that. Someone like floyd, or if nonito had been within range, coudl have landed something big
2) saw him come out of the corner with his eyes down, arranging his trunks, and what not, and in one round Nonito nearly caught him. Rigo, for god's sake, pay attention!
3) The KD was product of lack of pro experience. Came out of the clinch too relaxed, which allowed Donaire to hold him with his forearm and hit him as he was getting back too relaxed. Bit cheap by Donaire considering his previous spectacular KD's, but fair. It wasn't even an exchange.
Again, Terrazas, Mijares, maybe Vic
Great observations !! I made several of those same ones myself - that knockdown was completely avoidable and the end result of some dirty boxing on Donaire's part, but its Rigondeaux's responsibility to protect hiself at all times.
It's really not worth it to collect any other belts, just defend the two you've earned and save any additional sanction fees, especially IBF because they're the highest - everyone knows that he is the man and he can just rack up on spectacular stoppage after another at 122lbs until time dulls his reflexes
I think Rigo will fight the Terrazas/Mijares next, then fulfill his WBA mandatory against Quigg, and then fight Darchinyan (assuming he wins his fight in May).
Kiaba, you are a great poster.
I think Rigo will fight the Terrazas/Mijares winner next, then fulfill his WBA mandatory obligation against Quigg, and then fight Darchinyan (assuming he wins his fight in May) early next year.
Personally, I think beating Donaire/Terrazas/Quigg would put him up in contention for FOTY.
I agree to all of this. I was describing to my brother how I thought Rigo allowed the KD by being careless. He threw a weak left while up-close after breaking the clinch and got caught. At least it proved, along with other moments, that "El Chacal" has a good jaw. All chin issues have been answered, as far as I'm concerned.
Well he definitely has a keen eye for mistakes. The fact that he is trying to convert Rigo in the "perfect" fighter is hilarious. C'mon man.. adjusting your trunks? Looking at the ref? Holy crap! lol
Hopefully Terrazas.
I don't know if i'm making too much of it, but I noticed a few things that may be product of his amateur background: as intently focused as he is; he can get distracted.
I think that's why Diaz at one point demanded him to pay attention.
Little things that can be costly
1) He looks at the ref when the ref talks! Never noticed a boxer do that. Someone like floyd, or if nonito had been within range, coudl have landed something big
2) saw him come out of the corner with his eyes down, arranging his trunks, and what not, and in one round Nonito nearly caught him. Rigo, for god's sake, pay attention!
3) The KD was product of lack of pro experience. Came out of the clinch too relaxed, which allowed Donaire to hold him with his forearm and hit him as he was getting back too relaxed. Bit cheap by Donaire considering his previous spectacular KD's, but fair. It wasn't even an exchange.
Again, Terrazas, Mijares, maybe Vic
I agree to all of this. I was describing to my brother how I thought Rigo allowed the KD by being careless. He threw a weak left while up-close after breaking the clinch and got caught. At least it proved, along with other moments, that "El Chacal" has a good jaw. All chin issues have been answered, as far as I'm concerned.
def not donaire rematch, i think it will be darchnian and then the winner of mijares and the other guy.
After Darchinyan beat Del Valle it was more plausible... Now Rigo is on a much larger platform. Arum although a hating beeotch, will look for the best possible move and I think that would be vs another champ with a 'following'.