Seems like there has been no buzz and even after watching All Access the other night it didn't feel right b/c so many more people have HBO and it feels like none of the people I know have Showtime so therefore they didn't see it but would always watch 24/7.
Do you think Floyd could care less b/c he is getting paid regardless? There seemed to be a lot of buzz for the Mayweather-Mosley and Mayweather-Cotto but I feel like nobody knows who the hell the Ghost is. Whole thing feels weird.
Seems like there has been no buzz and even after watching All Access the other night it didn't feel right b/c so many more people have HBO and it feels like none of the people I know have Showtime so therefore they didn't see it but would always watch 24/7.
Do you think Floyd could care less b/c he is getting paid regardless? There seemed to be a lot of buzz for the Mayweather-Mosley and Mayweather-Cotto but I feel like nobody knows who the hell the Ghost is. Whole thing feels weird.
Theres no buzz as isnt it a coincidence that Floyd has on paper the weakest opponent, everyone has to do the donkey work, whiile Floyd takes the easier option, even though its his mandatory.
Its a solid fight, but not the most dangerous you could say. If he beats Guerrero, then he can take the proper tests if he is willing to. Cos Floyd dont fight much, any Floyd fight is a kind of occasion, but there is a bigger fight in Canelo and Trout im afraid to say.
Floyd vs trout/canelo will create a buzz i am sure.
There really isn't much hype. Even the Mexican's I know are pretty much like "Yeah Mayweather is gonna kick his ass" and "Guerrero don't even speak Spanish".
Usually it's non stop, everyone knows, Floyd is selling the fight, but it's like it doesnt matter if he doesnt sell it, he's getting a set amount regardless of PPV sales, so he doesnt need to sell it? Maybe one of the floyd fanboys can tell us about the specifics of his deal?
With no Canelo on the undercard, if the PPV numbers flop, then he's going to look bad for it, like he needed Canelo to prop up the other cards, even with a load of money it's not good for his ego.
Tell me then, who should Floyd fight next that you won't call a cherry pick?
Manny? No, he's still asleep. JMM? No, he has not mentioned Floyd's name. I don't even think he can say Floyd in Spanish. Bradley? He used to talk about fighting Floyd, but now he's so punch drunk he can hardly say a word. Rios? Hell, he's punch drunk too.
LOL floyd fans amaze me... You just embottled Floyds career right there... When he could have fight top challengers he waited for them to lose or run out of gas before he says "ok, lets go"
manny- 98% of the world knows floyd really avoided him, not the other way around...
Marquez- floyd made him go up 2!!! weight classes and still didnt come in at proper weight.
Bradley- waited for someone else to school him( not that I think floyd would have lost, i think he wouldve won, but he didnt want to risk anything)
Rios- well he never wouldve stood a chance but again, floyd saying :who is he? whats he proven, nah he aint worth it" shows how scared he is to lose that '0"
Lol...the flojob excuses are already coming "Guerrero isnt known", "different network", "if scrapes a million its still brilliant". How different the floydiot music was just a few weeks ago!:lol1:
Tell me then, who should Floyd fight next that you won't call a cherry pick?
Manny? No, he's still asleep. JMM? No, he has not mentioned Floyd's name. I don't even think he can say Floyd in Spanish. Bradley? He used to talk about fighting Floyd, but now he's so punch drunk he can hardly say a word. Rios? Hell, he's punch drunk too.
how come you didn't mention the winner of canelo trout????? dear oh dear
Seems like there has been no buzz and even after watching All Access the other night it didn't feel right b/c so many more people have HBO and it feels like none of the people I know have Showtime so therefore they didn't see it but would always watch 24/7.
Do you think Floyd could care less b/c he is getting paid regardless? There seemed to be a lot of buzz for the Mayweather-Mosley and Mayweather-Cotto but I feel like nobody knows who the hell the Ghost is. Whole thing feels weird.
nobody outside the boxing community knows who guerrero is. Everybody knows floyd should have fought canelo or trout and are a bit fed up with his crap. he's ducking them now just like he ducked pacquiao in the past. I wouldn't be shocked if he hoes and fights a shot pacquiao in a years time in standard mayweather proceedure.
Anyway Canelo v trout is the waaaaay more exciting prospect. That said I think floyd is slippping and if the odds are insane enough ..... actually what are the odds at the moment?
Yeah, there is a little bit less buzz behind this than the usual. Things don't really heat up until the last two weeks before the fight though.
Showtime managed to do, what, 1.3 for Pacquiao-Mosley, right? I expect a pretty similar number for this one.
doesn't feel weird at all. feels completely normal to see floyd fighting another cherry picked opponent.
Tell me then, who should Floyd fight next that you won't call a cherry pick?
Manny? No, he's still asleep. JMM? No, he has not mentioned Floyd's name. I don't even think he can say Floyd in Spanish. Bradley? He used to talk about fighting Floyd, but now he's so punch drunk he can hardly say a word. Rios? Hell, he's punch drunk too.
I remember thinking that nobody was talking about the Mayweather-Marquez fight and that it was going to be a flop, and it shocked everybody and did a million buys. Not that I expect this to do a million buys, but it will still be successful. With this being a Showtime PPV, I think that could shave off 150k buys if not more. I'll be shocked if it does less than 800k though.
Agreed, it's kinda weird but hey am not surprised because I remember when Showtime picked up Pacquiao-Mosley and everyone was like it would be on CBS and casual fans would see it etc but at the end of the day the show was not that publicise, same thing here.
The fact that there is no possibility of a Pacquiao fight happening right now is killing this fight. People tolerated the Ortiz fight because it was thought to be a tune up for Pacquiao (remember Floyd saying "and yes Manny Pacquiao, your next!") I haven't talked to anyone hyped up to pay for this PPV. Even the undercards, while good fights, will not save this one.
I really could care less, in a few days I will be in San Antonio for Canelo/Trout. I'll try and stream the Floyd fight, if I find a decent one great, if not, no big deal.
Part of the problem is that 1- Floyd already has been paid a lion's share up front by the dummy over at Showtime so he isn't going waste his time promoting, and 2- Robert isn't doing interviews or promotions because he doesn't want to answer questions about the gun charge. Very quiet considering its a Floyd fight. It'll do numbers but not big numbers.
Good point, I wonder if they have gotten any backlash from that. Makes for a good segment on the reality show stuff, but doesn't really fly when face-to-face with the press and trying to get sponsors and outlets to sell the fight.
Yes, the whole thing has been weird from the start. Even putting the SHO contract stuff in the rearview...it still doesn't feel like the promotion has even rolled out yet - basic stuff, like a press conference. Like having them in the same place at the same time...isn't that a rule in promotion? All I've seen of them together is the clips of them in front of a green screen for about about 45 seconds.
Luckily I've known of Guerrero for a while so I am interested in the fight, but I'm just 1 guy. I can see why people might feel it's lacking - its not the first thread like this about the fight.
We could just be brainwashed to HBO's ways and are struggling to break free?
Press conferences don't contribute anything to PPV buys....I mean how many casual fans watch the press conferences in all honesty??? I don't even watch them.
Boxing press conferences are ***** compared to UFC press conferences. You get to hear the fighter for like 4 minutes tops, and none of the press row even ask them questions.
It's mainly Bob Arum or Richard Schaefer talking their asses off.
He has those big Press conferences though.
Shoot... Ortiz was pretty big and Cotto's was just as big.
Now... I'm just watching Guerrero beat up a Pinata with Floyd's face on it and watching his Granny who looks like Floyd Snr. and Roger
Press conferences don't contribute anything to PPV buys....I mean how many casual fans watch the press conferences in all honesty??? I don't even watch them.
Part of the problem is that 1- Floyd already has been paid a lion's share up front by the dummy over at Showtime so he isn't going waste his time promoting, and 2- Robert isn't doing interviews or promotions because he doesn't want to answer questions about the gun charge. Very quiet considering its a Floyd fight. It'll do numbers but not big numbers.
Good point. Chi-town represent!
The fight will crack 1 million buys, which is nothing short of a miracle considering Guerrero isn't even that known.
Nothing is different on major networks from any of his recent fights, they don't start talking about generally until a few days before on the big networks like ESPN. I don't remember Floyd getting big interview spots before like he did at the NCAA tourney and everything.
It'll all be the same. If Mayweather cracks a million with Guerrero, that's a success obviously.
He has those big Press conferences though.
Shoot... Ortiz was pretty big and Cotto's was just as big.
Now... I'm just watching Guerrero beat up a Pinata with Floyd's face on it and watching his Granny who looks like Floyd Snr. and Roger
Part of the problem is that 1- Floyd already has been paid a lion's share up front by the dummy over at Showtime so he isn't going waste his time promoting, and 2- Robert isn't doing interviews or promotions because he doesn't want to answer questions about the gun charge. Very quiet considering its a Floyd fight. It'll do numbers but not big numbers.
The fight will crack 1 million buys, which is nothing short of a miracle considering Guerrero isn't even that known.
Nothing is different on major networks from any of his recent fights, they don't start talking about generally until a few days before on the big networks like ESPN. I don't remember Floyd getting big interview spots before like he did at the NCAA tourney and everything.
It'll all be the same. If Mayweather cracks a million with Guerrero, that's a success obviously.
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