I see a lot of ppl talking about rigondeaux and he deserves it(although a good portion of it is overblown). but what happened to donaire. a few things imo. 1 and the most obvious is this was a battle between two counterpunchers. in a battle between two fighters of this type, its usually the faster, more skilled and more reflexive guy that wins. and in the end, rigondeaux was all of those things. so because of that, and because of donaires inability to change his style, he had no answers.
The next issue is that donaire doesnt throw any combinations. hes not a combo puncher. at all. he loads up on big shots, sometimes forgetting to set traps and he tries to take his opponent out. he finally ran into someone with a highly competent defense. it was simply nearly impossible for him to pull off anything. Finally donaires offense is stagnant at times as noted, but his defense is also pretty suspect. he gets hit a lot and his head movement is lacking at times and his foot work is more designed around offense than it is defense. i think rigondeaux was just the perfect storm, a fighter that donaire simply would never have been able to overcome
I think I saw his demise from the 1st combination he leaned in with in round 1. He did not expect Rigo to answer him back with a better 1. And when he tried it again, the same thing happened. Rigo was content to potshot him with that left hand always ****ed and ready. But whenever Donaire let go, Rigo immediately landed the bigger shot. That forced Donaire to start thinking, then he simply became reluctant to fire.
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that round 1 exchange shook Donaire up in way that made him timid
rigos movement, defense and elusiveness neutralized nonaires gameplan of catching him with a home run shot.
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He was too focused on trying to land one big shot.
2 things became clear by Round 4;
1. He's not going to win a decision doing this
2. He's not going to knock Rigondeaux out with one punch
He had no plan B. That was his problem and it's a problem he's had for a while.
That's why despite dominating he hasn't looked great against Navaez, Vasquez and co because he's too busy looking for big, swinging shot's instead of breaking guys down. Once it was clear he wasn't going to win fighting the way he did, which came so apparent early, he should have had a Plan B, he should have tried to break him down, throw combination's to the body.
He was very one-dimensional in this fight and that was ultimately his down fall.
Brah needed to use the jab and use some feints. He did none of that at all. Just single shots all loaded up which Rigo easily countered. He let Rigo control the pace of the fight and control the positioning with his foot work. He should have used feints and jabs to keep Rigo from coming in when he wanted to and to keep Rigo where he wanted distance and space wise. Things like that jab to the stomach that Floyd uses with no intentions of landing it only to keep them where he wants them position wise. But donaire isnt no floyd.
It was like Mayweather-Marquez in the sense that Rigondeaux absolutely dominated him, and Donaire had no answer. The faster, more skilled fighter will always win between two counter punchers.
Rigo showed us why philipino fighters avoid slick black fighters like the plague. They cant handle all of that slickness, its their kryptonite. Donaire had balls taking this fight knowing he was going to get schooled.
counter punchers dont do well against better counter punchers lol
see floyd vs marquez
marquez and donaire usualy do better against come forward fighters like pacquiao
He was too focused on trying to land one big shot.
2 things became clear by Round 4;
1. He's not going to win a decision doing this
2. He's not going to knock Rigondeaux out with one punch
He had no plan B. That was his problem and it's a problem he's had for a while.
That's why despite dominating he hasn't looked great against Navaez, Vasquez and co because he's too busy looking for big, swinging shot's instead of breaking guys down. Once it was clear he wasn't going to win fighting the way he did, which came so apparent early, he should have had a Plan B, he should have tried to break him down, throw combination's to the body.
He was very one-dimensional in this fight and that was ultimately his down fall.
Honestly, I think his head literally widened to the point where he dismissed true boxing. He lost all aspects of technique the past two years cause he was knocking dudes out. Now he ran into a guy who's just technically too sound to be caught careless like his last 4-5 opponents. Rigo is just always supremely disciplined and backs that up with impressive movement, punching power and ring IQ. Donaire needs to get back to basics is what I'm trying to say. I also don't think him and Robert pair up well
I'm beginning to think Robert Garcia is at least a little overrated. The trainer is the one that should be formulating the fight plan and working on it with his fighter in the gym. The trainer is the one that should be observing and dictating to his fighter, in between rounds, what changes should be implemented. Of course, then it's up to the fighter to deliver. In all fairness, I don't think anything would've worked against Rigo that night. "El Chacal" was simply the better fighter, period. But Garcia was saying things to Donaire like, "You've gotta do something Nonito!" Really Robert? How about telling him what that something is....
1) Rigo controlled the pace of the fight, I can't remember the rounds but for me there were moments where I could visibly see Donaire trying to find his rhythm. I think people overlook the role movement plays in depriving your opponent of the ability to set up their traps and punches.
2) I think Rigo established his jab over Donaire which would consequentially deter him from throwing it.
I think I saw his demise from the 1st combination he leaned in with in round 1. He did not expect Rigo to answer him back with a better 1. And when he tried it again, the same thing happened. Rigo was content to potshot him with that left hand always ****ed and ready. But whenever Donaire let go, Rigo immediately landed the bigger shot. That forced Donaire to start thinking, then he simply became reluctant to fire.
Early in the fight, I said to my friends sitting next to me at the bout, "Nonito felt something he didn't like. He's not throwing."
I, myself, didn't expect Rigo to engage the way he did. In fact, I cringed. But "El Chacal" proved my fears unfounded. He won every exchange. Every time Donaire landed something good, Rigo fired back with something better.
They squared off, and boxed for the first rounds. Rigo outboxed, and out-countered him. Taking away his best tools.
Nonito was forced to apply pressure ala Bam Bam or Margarito. But he is no inside fighter, and did a horrible job to cut of the ring.
Donaire always lacked a natural right hand. He can throw the right hand, but he can't alter it. Rigo was a master on defense, and that befuddled Nonito. Two fists are always better than one
So what you basically said is....In a battle between two fighters, the better fighter usually wins, and that's what happened here.
superb observation :)
No that's not what i said.
So what you basically said is....In a battle between two fighters, the better fighter usually wins, and that's what happened here.
superb observation :)
I think I saw his demise from the 1st combination he leaned in with in round 1. He did not expect Rigo to answer him back with a better 1. And when he tried it again, the same thing happened. Rigo was content to potshot him with that left hand always ****ed and ready. But whenever Donaire let go, Rigo immediately landed the bigger shot. That forced Donaire to start thinking, then he simply became reluctant to fire.
Good post. Let me add that he did not think that Rigo packed as much pop as he does. He found that out real quick that it was not the case at all. Once he felt the power Rigo had and how fast the punches came he clammed up and was like a fish out of water while Rigo rearranged his face for the rest of the fight. :boxing:
I think I saw his demise from the 1st combination he leaned in with in round 1. He did not expect Rigo to answer him back with a better 1. And when he tried it again, the same thing happened. Rigo was content to potshot him with that left hand always ****ed and ready. But whenever Donaire let go, Rigo immediately landed the bigger shot. That forced Donaire to start thinking, then he simply became reluctant to fire.
im watching the fight again probably 3rd time and im noticing the judges are not watching the fight closely at all surprised i didnt notice this live
exactly. find me a round other than the 10th that donaire won.