Pacquaio playing duck duck goose with Marquez not wanting to get KOed again.
JMM isnt asking for anything crazy, just half. That is fair, he brutally KOed you. Plus you know JMM gets robbed again if goes to decision so JMM already has that stacked against him, 50-50 is more than fair.
jmm just simply dont want it anymore. he has already done what he wished for. what he dreamed of. beating pac was his ultimate goal. and that knockout was far more than he expected. no win in his life could beat that. he doesn't have the hunger for another one anymore. he doesn't have the drive anymore. the hatred to win. which made him trained for 4 months in advance than pac. which made him write a book. all those will be a recipe for disaster. he didn't chase pacquiao all this years for a payday. and if he gives pacquiao the fifth fight he doesn't want it to be just about money.
marquez himself knows that the 50-50 is a deal breaker.. he made it clear he doesn't want pac anymore.
if im marquez i wouldn't give pacquiao another shot too, unless he begs for it and shows me that its not about money.
if im pacquiao, i would take 50-50. redeeming yourself is way better than money could buy.
marquez is showing its not about the money, while pac, like in the 4th one, is still showing its just about the money, thats why they got kicked.
Man, shut yo ass up, and admit that you're not from the Philippines.
As a Pacquiao fan I have to say Marquez derserves it thats for sure. He knocked him out cold. 50/50 is fair even though Manny is the bigger draw. Marquez is the man the beat for him now.
50/50 pac gets all the PPV share
Agree. That's the only way I can see it happening. If Floyd fans are cool with that when it comes to Pacquiao, then I'm cool with that, when it comes to JMM.
Marquez knocked pacquiao out, a perfect end to their rivalry as far as he's concerned. If pacquiao isn't too bothered with revenge and won't do 50-50 that's up to him.
Well actually it had to do more with the grand opening of the stadium then Pac. Pac won't do a mil buys with out Marquez. Pac ducks Marquez and will take on Rios cause Alvarado would school Pac. Wana bet Pac takes on Rios next?
Pac vs cotto 1.25m
Pac vs margo 1.15m
Pac vs mosley 1.3m
Pac does not duck anyone, you know NOTHING about this sport if you think pac ducks any fighter, or you lack respect for this sport if you are just wumming mate.
pac wants marquez, he badly wants to end this, most likely he will fight marquez next and finish him this time, i find it astonishing that you have somehow made this whole situation pac ducking marquez when marquez has come out several times saying he wants no more of pac. only on boxing forums you get morons like yourself.
now onto the topic
this has nothing to do with pac refusing 50-50, it is more with his guarantee, remember he had one of around 24m against marquez last time, I believe he earned around 30 million or slightly more from the fight, if marquez is demanding the same amount pac is earning, bob arum has a problem
do you really ****ing think marquez will get or let alone deserves 30 ****ing million in a fight? he has never even earned half of that in a single fight, he does not bring that much to the table at all. either way pac will make 30 million from wheoever he fights as he has a huge guarantee in his contracts, marquez will have a choice to make very soon, take his highest ever pay day of around 10 million to fight pacman or make 3-4 million against bradley because marquez and bradley will not break more than 200k ppv buys, they are both NOTHING WITHOUT PAC on the ppv side
youre fact is wrong coz he has ....in fact he's top 4 in who has the most "1 milion ppv sales"....
well , obviously marquez is pricing himself out again , so call it anyhing you want but that pretty much is a given fail...bradley is exactly not a mouth waterng fight given the ridiculous decision ..
rios is a forgivable fight altho i dont want it...
Marquez just gave your guy a career ending KO, and he's pricing himself out of the fight? lmao! you pac fans are a real joke.
funny how pac fans are saying complete opposite about 50 50 these days. id say marquez deserves it more then pac did against mayweather
There will always be some who say the opposite of what you think. So what. Manny and Floyd were the big PPV guys in boxing. Marquez brings in as well but not a big PPV attraction unless he has Manny/Floyd.
So Manny should be getting more due to the above but Marquez does have leverage to ask to make big bucks. What that percentage is, I really don't know and I really don't mind if he gets 50/50 as all I want is to see is great fights. I'd be happy for Marquez if he got 50%.
But you are wrong that all Manny fans are in disagreement. See poll below. Even the 22% who said that Marquez doesn't deserve, I'm sure that the reason is due to what I said above and are also OK if Marquez gets a high percentage just not 50/50
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/poll.php?do=showresults&pollid=40721
but to see Floyd fans in this thread say that this means that Manny is ducking is laughable. Floyd wanted ALL PPV MONEY against a guy that was bringing in very good PPV money of his own. :lol1: If that is the case, then what should we be calling Floyd? A flock of ducks? The ultimate ducker? Duck Supreme?
Fact: Manny will not be able to make over a mil buys with out Marquez.
Now, would you like to bet that Pacquiao ducks Marquez and Bradley and takes Rios next?
youre fact is wrong coz he has ....in fact he's top 4 in who has the most "1 milion ppv sales"....
well , obviously marquez is pricing himself out again , so call it anyhing you want but that pretty much is a given fail...bradley is exactly not a mouth waterng fight given the ridiculous decision ..
rios is a forgivable fight altho i dont want it...
you could keep trying to discredit pac's drawing power but i dont think you can find anything legit , anything beleivable..
if youre actually trying to argue jmm is a bigger draw or equal draw as pac then youre not being realistic ...in fact youre being ridiculous...
Fact: Manny will not be able to make over a mil buys with out Marquez.
Now, would you like to bet that Pacquiao ducks Marquez and Bradley and takes Rios next?
Well actually it had to do more with the grand opening of the stadium then Pac. Pac won't do a mil buys with out Marquez. Pac ducks Marquez and will take on Rios cause Alvarado would school Pac. Wana bet Pac takes on Rios next?
you could keep trying to discredit pac's drawing power but i dont think you can find anything legit , anything beleivable..
if youre actually trying to argue jmm is a bigger draw or equal draw as pac then youre not being realistic ...in fact youre being ridiculous...
there were more mexicans in the pac vs clottey too and neither of them is mexican and im sure you'd agree they were not in there for clottey, lol.. .. pac has all kinds of fans...
Well actually it had to do more with the grand opening of the stadium then Pac. Pac won't do a mil buys with out Marquez. Pac ducks Marquez and will take on Rios cause Alvarado would school Pac. Wana bet Pac takes on Rios next?
There were more Mexican supporting Marquez then Paklas in their last fight. Even Jim commented how it was a Marquez crowd. Marquez will be selling the fight just as Pac. Pac won't be able to make as much with Marquez then with someone else. 50/50 is fair since Marquez will be drawing as many fight fans, if not more, as Manny. Sleeping beauty don't want it. I bet you all my points sleeping beauty takes Rios next and ducks Marquez!
there were more mexicans in the pac vs clottey too and neither of them is mexican and im sure you'd agree they were not in there for clottey, lol.. .. pac has all kinds of fans...
Pacquaio playing duck duck goose with Marquez not wanting to get KOed again.
JMM isnt asking for anything crazy, just half. That is fair, he brutally KOed you. Plus you know JMM gets robbed again if goes to decision so JMM already has that stacked against him, 50-50 is more than fair.
How is he ducking when he's been very vocal about wanting to fight JMM from the start? On the other hand JMM did not want to have anything to do with Pac. JMM just said in was interested with Bradley's belt not Pac.
With regards to 50/50 being fair, do you think JMM will still get the same purse fighting Bradley? Coz I'm pretty sure Pac will still get his 20mil regardless of who is on the other corner.
thats how you feel but i think jmm asking for 50/50 is pricing himself out..he was never on pac's level when it comes to drawing power, not in puttin seats in the arena , not in ppv sales , not in the US , not anywhere in the world...but nice try i guess...
There were more Mexican supporting Marquez then Paklas in their last fight. Even Jim commented how it was a Marquez crowd. Marquez will be selling the fight just as Pac. Pac won't be able to make as much with Marquez then with someone else. 50/50 is fair since Marquez will be drawing as many fight fans, if not more, as Manny. Sleeping beauty don't want it. I bet you all my points sleeping beauty takes Rios next and ducks Marquez!
thats how you feel but i think jmm asking for 50/50 is pricing himself out..he was never on pac's level when it comes to drawing power, not in puttin seats in the arena , not in ppv sales , not in the US , not anywhere in the world...but nice try i guess...