Prime paul vs the GGG of today ..who wins and how?
would paul be able to deal with GGG's power and skills?
would GGG be able to deal with pauls awkwardness and lankiness?
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Look I'm not saying you're bashing Golovkin, but his career de facto started after he beat Proksa, and yes I will agree he hasn't faced Top 10 (but I believe Proksa, was and is Top 10) but unlike other great prospects he called out everyone from 154 to 168. I know why you have your doubts but I truly believe GGG will be the next big thing
That's what I love about GGG. He WANTS to fight the best. That alone gets my respect.
The man was calling out Andre Ward!!! How can you hate the guy!?
I'm not here to bash GGG at all. I love the way the kid fights, and I truly hope he becomes a monster, so we can stop talking about Pac/Floyd.
But you gotta admit, his competition is a big reason why he looks so great.
IF he totally decimates Macklin, and Geale, then I'll be on board.
Look I'm not saying you're bashing Golovkin, but his career de facto started after he beat Proksa, and yes I will agree he hasn't faced Top 10 (but I believe Proksa, was and is Top 10) but unlike other great prospects he called out everyone from 154 to 168. I know why you have your doubts but I truly believe GGG will be the next big thing
You can't knock Golovkin's footwork. He closes distance and cuts of the ring very well and you can't maintain your balance like he does as an offensive fighter if your footwork isn't tight. He can be slow on his feet alright as he does sit down on a big percentage of his shots, so you can see where an elusive fighter might trouble him. He does have that head jolting jab however which is always going to help against that type of opponent.
Well yeah we all want to see how he does against Sergio, but as for now he looks more than great.
I'm not here to bash GGG at all. I love the way the kid fights, and I truly hope he becomes a monster, so we can stop talking about Pac/Floyd.
But you gotta admit, his competition is a big reason why he looks so great.
IF he totally decimates Macklin, and Geale, then I'll be on board.
Because he hasn't faced a very good boxer yet. I wanna see how well he does against Martinez, then we can talk.
Well yeah we all want to see how he does against Sergio, but as for now he looks more than great.
To me this is an easy fight to call. Even in his prime Williams was not hard to hit. He came forward throwing 100 punches a round. His offense was his defense. He was a welterweight. GGG. is a super punching middleweight with good speed and skill. He would love to slug it out with Williams and he would KO him in a round or two the same way he would have KOed a prime Margarito in a simular thread that was recently on here.Any middleweight that slugs it out with GGG. is going to lose in my opinion. No welterweight stands any chance of beating him.
I can agree with you about his tdefense but he's getting better in that department with every fight. Footwork? Come on he cuts off the ring like nobody in the game right now.
Because he hasn't faced a very good boxer yet. I wanna see how well he does against Martinez, then we can talk.
Actually, he isn't a great boxer. LMAO. His power and chin allows him get away with a ton of mistakes. Leaving himself too squared up. Blocking with his gloves, and face too much, and overall bad footwork.
I can agree with you about his tdefense but he's getting better in that department with every fight. Footwork? Come on he cuts off the ring like nobody in the game right now.
Margarito was a damn good fighter but he was nowhere near the boxer that Golovkin is. Golovkin's a really clinical puncher with legit power, accuracy, and great balance. He doesn't just unload like Tony did. Margarito was a saturation bomber, Golovkin's all about precision.
Golovkin isn't a great boxer by any stretch of the imagination. He has great power. That's what really sets him apart from the other MW's.
Just like Margarito's chin and determination set him apart from the other top WW's of his day. Neither are great boxers, but they both had their unique qualities.
Well yeah actually he is such a great boxer, 345-5 in amateurs speaks for itselfs. I know amateurs are not the same thing as pro game bluh bluh. Guy is the real deal, and this year will prove it
Actually, he isn't a great boxer. LMAO. His power and chin allows him get away with a ton of mistakes. Leaving himself too squared up. Blocking with his gloves, and face too much, and overall bad footwork.
I love paul but GGG is too strong and has great timing and power in both hands
Only guy who can beat him in the area is ward,Froch would be a war 50 50
Lets not act like GGG is such a great boxer either. Deterring Margarito from mounting an offense in his prime was a hard thing to do. Lets not act like Margarito was some bum.
Well yeah actually he is such a great boxer, 345-5 in amateurs speaks for itselfs. I know amateurs are not the same thing as pro game bluh bluh. Guy is the real deal, and this year will prove it
IDK, ask Cotto... :boxing:
As far as this fight, I think P. Will would respect GGG's power and try to box him like he did Margarito. Somewhere in the fight a brawl will break out since GGG is very effective cutting off the ring. If P. Will can survive the early onslaught (the way Rosado did), he can tire out Golovkin and win a decision by outworking GGG in the late rounds. However, GGG can end the fight if he is able to get P. Will on the ropes and land his devastating combinations to the body and head. I see this fight ending in either a P.Will competitive UD (116-112/115-113) or a mid-round stoppage for GGG.
Yeah and that was the only big win in his career, and Cotto wasn't that much either to be honest. Margarito was mediocre boxer with great hype and great fanbase, that's all.
What exactly do you mean when you say 'prime' Paul Williams?
Are you talking about the version that barely beat Margarito, the version that got taken to school by Carlos Quintana, or the version that was KTFO'd by Sergio Martinez?
He probably means the pre-Martinez KO Williams. Since this is a middleweight fight it would be the P. Will who fought Wright and Martinez in 2009.
Lets not act like GGG is such a great boxer either. Deterring Margarito from mounting an offense in his prime was a hard thing to do. Lets not act like Margarito was some bum.
Margarito was a damn good fighter but he was nowhere near the boxer that Golovkin is. Golovkin's a really clinical puncher with legit power, accuracy, and great balance. He doesn't just unload like Tony did. Margarito was a saturation bomber, Golovkin's all about precision.
Come on man, let's not pretend outboxing Margarito was the hard thing to do...
IDK, ask Cotto... :boxing:
As far as this fight, I think P. Will would respect GGG's power and try to box him like he did Margarito. Somewhere in the fight a brawl will break out since GGG is very effective cutting off the ring. If P. Will can survive the early onslaught (the way Rosado did), he can tire out Golovkin and win a decision by outworking GGG in the late rounds. However, GGG can end the fight if he is able to get P. Will on the ropes and land his devastating combinations to the body and head. I see this fight ending in either a P.Will competitive UD (116-112/115-113) or a mid-round stoppage for GGG.
What exactly do you mean when you say 'prime' Paul Williams?
Are you talking about the version that barely beat Margarito, the version that got taken to school by Carlos Quintana, or the version that was KTFO'd by Sergio Martinez?
If Williams kept GGG from landing something big early we would be in for another Williams-Martinez I.
Once William got warmed up he could eat plenty of big shots, lets not let one perfect Martinez punch change the legacy of the man. He could eat a punch as good as anyone in his prime.
Thank you.
Come on man, let's not pretend outboxing Margarito was the hard thing to do...
Lets not act like GGG is such a great boxer either. Deterring Margarito from mounting an offense in his prime was a hard thing to do. Lets not act like Margarito was some bum.