Roman 'Rocky' Martinez vs Argenis Mendez (unification)

Unfortunately you listed two guys he lost to. And knock off? Who has Martinez exactly knocked off? It's obvious that when he steps up he loses. Burns, Burgos and Magdaleno. And you don't think Uchiyama is good enough to beat Martinez? Sorry but it doesn't take much to beat Martinez as Burgos already beat him. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Sorry, I'll give you Burgos. At worst a loss, at best a draw... But he beat Magdaleno fair and square. He got a KD and throughout the fight he landed the cleaner and more significant blows. Magdaleno fought a good fight, but he pressed the action maybe one time and other than a few clean hits, mainly was throwing and landing pawing and pitty pat punches. Sorry, you can't snatch a belt from someone pitty patty them and spending 60+ seconds in a round circling but not throwing or connecting punches. I don't even think Magdaleno out landed or out-punched Martinez. And Takashi looks like he may have the goods, some speed and power, but the dude is like 34-35 and has never been outside of Japan. I think Rocky is more seasoned, has fought and defended in various locations and most importantly fought better comp. Not saying Takashi can't win, for all I know, he may wreck Martinez's life, but judging on both of their careers, if they fought tomorrow, I'd put my $ on Rocky

Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Rumack Is Burgos not going to get a rematch? The decision in that fight was as disgraceful as anything we've seen in recent times. I don't have anything against him, he seems like an earnest, hard working type, but Rocky is a fraud of a champion in a weak division. I think that's unfair. I think he's the hardest working guy in the division. Miguel Beltran Jr; Juan Carlos; Diego Magdaleno and also fought Ricky Burns about 5 fights ago. Consistent top level competition. He even fought Ricky in his home country and came home with an L, in a fight that I thought could have been a draw. In his last three, he was expected to lose all three, and he's 2-0-1. Now granted, pay attention, he was given a dubious draw against Burgos, but that happens. I've seen worse decisions in recent times (Campillo/Cloud still makes my stomach churn). Against Beltran and Magdaleno, he consistently landed the harder, more meaningful punches and deserved those razor thin close wins. I think he'd beat Mendez on points, if not a TKO. Nothing from any vids of Mendez shows he has the power or skills to make Rocky sweat. He'd make it close but Rocky would just keep putting work. I doubt Gamboa stays at Jr LW, so who else is there for Rocky to knock off? Takashi? I've seen some YT of him, but not enough to say he's good enough to beat Rocky either. Will have to check him out some more Unfortunately you listed two guys he lost to. And knock off? Who has Martinez exactly knocked off? It's obvious that when he steps up he loses. Burns, Burgos and Magdaleno. And you don't think Uchiyama is good enough to beat Martinez? Sorry but it doesn't take much to beat Martinez as Burgos already beat him. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Quote: Originally Posted by Dr Rumack Is Burgos not going to get a rematch? The decision in that fight was as disgraceful as anything we've seen in recent times. I don't have anything against him, he seems like an earnest, hard working type, but Rocky is a fraud of a champion in a weak division. I think that's unfair. I think he's the hardest working guy in the division. Miguel Beltran Jr; Juan Carlos; Diego Magdaleno and also fought Ricky Burns about 5 fights ago. Consistent top level competition. He even fought Ricky in his home country and came home with an L, in a fight that I thought could have been a draw. In his last three, he was expected to lose all three, and he's 2-0-1. Now granted, pay attention, he was given a dubious draw against Burgos, but that happens. I've seen worse decisions in recent times (Campillo/Cloud still makes my stomach churn). Against Beltran and Magdaleno, he consistently landed the harder, more meaningful punches and deserved those razor thin close wins. I think he'd beat Mendez on points, if not a TKO. Nothing from any vids of Mendez shows he has the power or skills to make Rocky sweat. He'd make it close but Rocky would just keep putting work. I doubt Gamboa stays at Jr LW, so who else is there for Rocky to knock off? Takashi? I've seen some YT of him, but not enough to say he's good enough to beat Rocky either. Will have to check him out some more Unfortunately you listed two guys he lost to. And knock off? Who has Martinez exactly knocked off? It's obvious that when he steps up he loses. Burns, Burgos and Magdaleno. And you don't think Uchiyama is good enough to beat Martinez? Sorry but it doesn't take much to beat Martinez as Burgos already beat him. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

I got Argenis on this one

Is Burgos not going to get a rematch? The decision in that fight was as disgraceful as anything we've seen in recent times. I don't have anything against him, he seems like an earnest, hard working type, but Rocky is a fraud of a champion in a weak division. I think that's unfair. I think he's the hardest working guy in the division. Miguel Beltran Jr; Juan Carlos; Diego Magdaleno and also fought Ricky Burns about 5 fights ago. Consistent top level competition. He even fought Ricky Burns in his home country and came home with an L, in a fight that I thought could have been a draw. In his last three, he was expected to lose all three, and he's 2-0-1. Now granted, pay attention, he was given a dubious draw against Burgos, but that happens. I've seen worse decisions in recent times (Campillo/Cloud still makes my stomach churn). Against Beltran and Magdaleno, he consistently landed the harder, more meaningful punches and deserved those razor thin close wins. I think he'd beat Mendez on points, if not a TKO. Nothing from any vids of Mendez shows he has the power or skills to make Rocky sweat. He'd make it close but Rocky would just keep putting work. I doubt Gamboa stays at Jr LW, so who else is there for Rocky to knock off? Takashi? I've seen some YT of him, but not enough to say he's good enough to beat Rocky either. Will have to check him out some more

Is Burgos not going to get a rematch? The decision in that fight was as disgraceful as anything we've seen in recent times. I don't have anything against him, he seems like an earnest, hard working type, but Rocky is a fraud of a champion in a weak division.

Quote: Originally Posted by Matty Ice Has there ever been someone to get 3 gift decisions in a row? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Well, I'm no fan of Magdaleno or Martinez but in my opinion Magdaleno as the challenger simply just didn't do enough to take the championship away from Martinez. At least that's what I saw. Now, the fight prior where it was called a draw...yes, I think he lost that one. IMO you could've given Martinez 2 more rounds MAYBE 3 besides the KD round. Just my opinion tho... The Burgos fight and this fight were no different. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Has there ever been someone to get 3 gift decisions in a row? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Well, I'm no fan of Magdaleno or Martinez but in my opinion Magdaleno as the challenger simply just didn't do enough to take the championship away from Martinez. At least that's what I saw. Now, the fight prior where it was called a draw...yes, I think he lost that one.

Quote: Originally Posted by Matty Ice Did you mean Martinez by GD? (gift decision) Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Maybe I shoulda said that instead. Has there ever been someone to get 3 gift decisions in a row? Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Quote: Originally Posted by hougigo Martinez by SD or draw just because Mendez by brutal salgado ko or Martinez by GD... Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Well, Mendez better pop some of that grade A roids cause Rocky has a chin on him altho he's shown he can be hurt. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Martinez by SD or draw just because Mendez by brutal salgado ko or Martinez by GD... Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

Did you mean Martinez by GD? (gift decision) Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android Maybe I shoulda said that instead.

Martinez by SD or draw just because Did you mean Martinez by GD? (gift decision) Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

I just figured you were since your only reason for thinking he would win was "just because". Am I wrong? More then likely he means Martinez because Rocky has been given three gifts on the bounce so its pretty hard too beat the guy without killing him and i would favour Mendez too

I'm a fan of him? I just figured you were since your only reason for thinking he would win was "just because". Am I wrong?

Just because? Sounds a little biased to say the least. Don't just give your opinion because your a fan of the guy....make your point with boxing knowledge please. I just think a good inside game beats Martinez plus, again, I believe that skill wise Mendez is the better of the two. I'm a fan of him?

Martinez by SD or draw just because Just because? Sounds a little biased to say the least. Don't just give your opinion because your a fan of the guy....make your point with boxing knowledge please. I just think a good inside game beats Martinez plus, again, I believe that skill wise Mendez is the better of the two.

Martinez by SD or draw just because