June Options for Golovkin. Who should he fight?

I heard the IBF will go to purse bid soon, seems like they don't give a **** about the PED testing. Soliman/Geale would be a VERY lucrative fight in Australia so it's in their best interest to make the fight happen and get their sanctioning fees. I may be wrong, but AFAIK it's far from huge, like no way would Geale get 200k out of that, with the promoter taking a loss probably. Soliman has 0 fans, and even Geale was pretty much in the same position before Mundine. Not sure if any of The Man's "appeal" rubbed off on him.

The only 2 guys Chavez was able to run over with his size are Lee and Manfredo. He hit Zbik a lot, but couldn't drop him once. Then Sturm stopped Zbik with his jab only. Go back a little, and Lyell, Duddy and Rowland are going the distance and giving him issues (minus Duddy). And he was still much bigger, he had 15lbs on Zbik. So he's gotten tremendous mileage out of a hail mary KD of tired SM after 11 shutout rounds, and Andy Lee. Even without the frailty Lee wasn't top ten, see his struggle with feather fisted McEwen. He didn't even look Euro level in his last fight, but I'm sure much of that is after effects of Chavez. But I agree Chavez is a lot more proven than GGG, proven not very good except for the chin. Yeah I agree that his power is overrated, he only stopped two guys at 160 and they both had been KO'd before, although he is getting bigger and his power is increasing with his size which is natural. And that's why he was able to drop Martinez. He actually has average power for a guy who's 180-185 lb in the ring. I'd like to see him against Chavez jr. While I'd favor him against Martinez at this time, I think Chavez jr might be more problematic. I know it sounds weird, but in my opinion Martinez would suffer against Golovkin, who is way better at applying pressure and at cutting off the ring than Chavez Jr, as well as being more well rounded. Also, Martinez is 37 and coming off knee surgery. On the other hand, Chavez jr is a big dude with a very solid chin, getting into a brawl might favor him. Golovkin has surely looked impressive, but his most relevant win so far is Proska. It's not like he's knockned out Hearns or Hagler. I see where you're coming from but I disagree, I think GGG would have a hard time finding Martinez and he would have a hard time seeing Martinez's punches coming. A Chavez fight would just be a matter of how long can Chavez withstand GGG's murderous blows before going down. Soliman tested positive so Geale's mandatory situation is unresolved and undecided while they test the rest of his samples. Seems like Geale would be available but he's probably more content issuing press releases about how he was unjustly stripped while refusing to fight Golovkin. I heard the IBF will go to purse bid soon, seems like they don't give a **** about the PED testing. Soliman/Geale would be a VERY lucrative fight in Australia so it's in their best interest to make the fight happen and get their sanctioning fees.

Getting ready to fight Soliman most likely. Soliman tested positive so Geale's mandatory situation is unresolved and undecided while they test the rest of his samples. Seems like Geale would be available but he's probably more content issuing press releases about how he was unjustly stripped while refusing to fight Golovkin.

I haven't read it all but I did see a couple of Floyd and Martinez fans say GGG needs to move up and stop facing scrubs and face competition that can actually challenge him. The irony there is brilliant. Maybe GGG should go up to 168 and cherry pick, if that's the stuff that impresses these days then maybe he should consider it.

The only 2 guys Chavez was able to run over with his size are Lee and Manfredo. He hit Zbik a lot, but couldn't drop him once. Then Sturm stopped Zbik with his jab only. Go back a little, and Lyell, Duddy and Rowland are going the distance and giving him issues (minus Duddy). And he was still much bigger, he had 15lbs on Zbik. So he's gotten tremendous mileage out of a hail mary KD of tired SM after 11 shutout rounds, and Andy Lee. Even without the frailty Lee wasn't top ten, see his struggle with feather fisted McEwen. He didn't even look Euro level in his last fight, but I'm sure much of that is after effects of Chavez. But I agree Chavez is a lot more proven than GGG, proven not very good except for the chin. I was picking Jr's power to stop Golovkin, but you've almost convinced me otherwise.

I'd like to see him against Chavez jr. While I'd favor him against Martinez at this time, I think Chavez jr might be more problematic. I know it sounds weird, but in my opinion Martinez would suffer against Golovkin, who is way better at applying pressure and at cutting off the ring than Chavez Jr, as well as being more well rounded. Also, Martinez is 37 and coming off knee surgery. On the other hand, Chavez jr is a big dude with a very solid chin, getting into a brawl might favor him. Golovkin has surely looked impressive, but his most relevant win so far is Proska. It's not like he's knockned out Hearns or Hagler. The only 2 guys Chavez was able to run over with his size are Lee and Manfredo. He hit Zbik a lot, but couldn't drop him once. Then Sturm stopped Zbik with his jab only. Go back a little, and Lyell, Duddy and Rowland are going the distance and giving him issues (minus Duddy). And he was still much bigger, he had 15lbs on Zbik. So he's gotten tremendous mileage out of a hail mary KD of tired SM after 11 shutout rounds, and Andy Lee. Even without the frailty Lee wasn't top ten, see his struggle with feather fisted McEwen. He didn't even look Euro level in his last fight, but I'm sure much of that is after effects of Chavez. But I agree Chavez is a lot more proven than GGG, proven not very good except for the chin.

I'd like to see him against Chavez jr. While I'd favor him against Martinez at this time, I think Chavez jr might be more problematic. I know it sounds weird, but in my opinion Martinez would suffer against Golovkin, who is way better at applying pressure and at cutting off the ring than Chavez Jr, as well as being more well rounded. Also, Martinez is 37 and coming off knee surgery. On the other hand, Chavez jr is a big dude with a very solid chin, getting into a brawl might favor him. Golovkin has surely looked impressive, but his most relevant win so far is Proska. It's not like he's knockned out Hearns or Hagler.

Those were just a couple I noticed that don't have fights coming up. Ward wants a fight with Chavez, I'm sure he would see Golovkin as an easy match and accept the fight with Golovkin and I think Golovkin's power would break him down in a bad way. My point is that he has options, if the "top" guys at 160 are ducking him, then move up, down or fight slightly lesser ranked middleweight guys in the interim. He has a #3 ranking at mw already and I don't see too many top 20 ranked mw guys on his resume so fighting a guy ranked say 16 at mw isn't going to hurt him at all. The guy packs a punch and brings in nothing, so guys don't want to fight him. If he gets a big name on his resume, the reward vs. risk ratio is more appealing to guys so, he'll get the big fights. I don't know why the business side of what is ultimately a business doesn't register with people? It is common sense that a move up would be much easier to secure a big fight because the guys up there perceive themselves to have an advantage. Golovkin has already shown that he can handle and knockout super middle weights. He even spars with light heavyweights and they comment on how strong he is. You think HBO would approve Bursak or Kocnecy? Why would Ward fight GGG when he can fight more lucrative and more accomplished fighters? That fight doesn't make sense for anybody. Same thing if he moves down, the top 154 lbers won't fight him and I don't think he'll be healthy at the weight. Bottomline, his options are VERY limited right now.

It is common sense that a move up would be much easier to secure a big fight because the guys up there perceive themselves to have an advantage. Most of the top SMWs already have fights lined up for the Summer. Sakio Bika is one of the only fighters in the SMW top 10 I can see taking on Golovkin.

Those were just a couple I noticed that don't have fights coming up. Ward wants a fight with Chavez, I'm sure he would see Golovkin as an easy match and accept the fight with Golovkin and I think Golovkin's power would break him down in a bad way. Ward is injured and out until at least early fall, why are you still putting his name? The guy packs a punch and brings in nothing, so guys don't want to fight him. If he gets a big name on his resume, the reward vs. risk ratio is more appealing to guys so, he'll get the big fights. I don't know why the business side of what is ultimately a business doesn't register with people? It is common sense that a move up would be much easier to secure a big fight because the guys up there perceive themselves to have an advantage. Golovkin has already shown that he can handle and knockout super middle weights. He even spars with light heavyweights and they comment on how strong he is. What does Murray bring for Sergio What does Guerrero bring in for Quillin WHat did that scrub bring in for Rubio WHat did Alcine bring in for Macklin What did Soloiman bring in for Sturm Golovkin would bring in way more money on a HBO headliner with a title, thats the "business side of it"

Those were just a couple I noticed that don't have fights coming up. Ward wants a fight with Chavez, I'm sure he would see Golovkin as an easy match and accept the fight with Golovkin and I think Golovkin's power would break him down in a bad way. My point is that he has options, if the "top" guys at 160 are ducking him, then move up, down or fight slightly lesser ranked middleweight guys in the interim. He has a #3 ranking at mw already and I don't see too many top 20 ranked mw guys on his resume so fighting a guy ranked say 16 at mw isn't going to hurt him at all. The guy packs a punch and brings in nothing, so guys don't want to fight him. If he gets a big name on his resume, the reward vs. risk ratio is more appealing to guys so, he'll get the big fights. I don't know why the business side of what is ultimately a business doesn't register with people? It is common sense that a move up would be much easier to secure a big fight because the guys up there perceive themselves to have an advantage. Golovkin has already shown that he can handle and knockout super middle weights. He even spars with light heavyweights and they comment on how strong he is. With guys ranked 15-20 it's entirely up to HBO. You saw they rejected Vera earlier. I'll bet they'd veto Bursak and such.

What 11-20 guy should he fight? Drop some names. The top 154 lbers won't fight him either. He needs to do what Margarito and Williams did, use the fact that he's avoided as a marketing tool. As much I dislike it, the "most avoided man in boxing" title is very appealing to the fans. He needs to milk that. What about Bursak, Konecny or Ward? I think he beats all three handily but at least they are pretty solid MW's and Ward wants a MW to move up....wonder if he is still up to the idea if Golovkin volunteered? Those were just a couple I noticed that don't have fights coming up. Ward wants a fight with Chavez, I'm sure he would see Golovkin as an easy match and accept the fight with Golovkin and I think Golovkin's power would break him down in a bad way. My point is that he has options, if the "top" guys at 160 are ducking him, then move up, down or fight slightly lesser ranked middleweight guys in the interim. He has a #3 ranking at mw already and I don't see too many top 20 ranked mw guys on his resume so fighting a guy ranked say 16 at mw isn't going to hurt him at all. The guy packs a punch and brings in nothing, so guys don't want to fight him. If he gets a big name on his resume, the reward vs. risk ratio is more appealing to guys so, he'll get the big fights. I don't know why the business side of what is ultimately a business doesn't register with people? It is common sense that a move up would be much easier to secure a big fight because the guys up there perceive themselves to have an advantage. Golovkin has already shown that he can handle and knockout super middle weights. He even spars with light heavyweights and they comment on how strong he is.

Im the biggest Golo fan here! God call RUBIO!!!!! Rubio has already declined the Jan date and is the mando to both Quillin and Sergio it seems, somehow

Im the biggest Golo fan here! God call RUBIO!!!!! Would rather see Don George at this point. He's a big MW with a strong right hand. He's pretty durable. Took some bombs from Adonis.

What is with this move up fascination? You are sh1tting on Golovkin for it, you cannot have it both ways. Its only fair if a fighter from 154 goes up to MW and asks Sergio for a shot? Is that what you're saying? You're putting variables that dont matter at all. Golovkin has to move up to 168 and challenge Ward for it to be similar to Sergio situation? The point that is being made is that Sergio got the shot that he is denying Golovkin. He was avoided for a long time but got the shot. In reality He was coming off a loss to Williams and didnt have 1 win at 160 yet Pavlik gave a low reward-high risk guy a chance. Yet again, you are switching things around. Golovkin would get props for moving up a division and beating the champ. However, he doesn't get props for fighting guys moving up from 154 that have little chance against him and a weak ranking at 154 to begin with. Golovkin would be the #3 ranked guy at mw moving up to face the champ at 160 and he has already beaten guys at 168. You were just using the fact the other day that he already beat Bute and Dirrell in the ams to show how good Golovkin was. So, I am not sure why you are so adversed to a move of this nature. You also keep rehashing the same old stuff when my reasoning has been extremely plainly put and logically based. He can't get fights at 160 (fights that you agree with) and you yourself already admit he easily dispatched of Dirrell and Ko'd Bute. Golovkin is a natural 160 pound fighter (unlike Sergio who is already up 2 divisions from where he turned pro) and could easily move up one division. You complain that he can't get fights, most guys use money as an excuse. If he beats a guy like Kessler or Ward or Bute or even Canelo or Trout (by moving DOWN), he will be a bigger draw. Beiing a bigger draw means more money, which means more guys willing to fight him. This IS WHAT YOU WANT RIGHT?

As I suggested: fight guys ranked 11-20 at mw in the meantime, have guys from 154 move up, move up himself, move down himself......or not fight at all. Is he being avoided? Sure looks like it. I'll put it like this: When Chavez was avoiding Martinez, people complained and complained and complained, the fight eventually happened.......2 years later. My point is people can complain all they want but that isn't going to make a fight drop in his lap. Taking action and doing something in the meantime probably will make a difference though. He could drop to 154 and take on Trout if he beats Canelo or try to get a fight with Canelo. If he wins that, he's an instant money maker and people would be more inclined to fight him because at least they would get paid for the beating they would take. What 11-20 guy should he fight? Drop some names. The top 154 lbers won't fight him either. He needs to do what Margarito and Williams did, use the fact that he's avoided as a marketing tool. As much I dislike it, the "most avoided man in boxing" title is very appealing to the fans. He needs to milk that.

Why are people (Russian Nuthugger) complianing as if Martinez has been ducking GGG for ages? So you admit to sergio ducking him, good thats the first step. Its simple, Golovkin wants sergio, Sergio picks Murry over Golovkin. The Sergio fans complain about his Golovkins not fighting anyone when sergio (along with top MWs) said no to him:killyou:

lol. This thread blew up a bit while I was gone.

I dunno man, 3G has been a pro for 7 years already, how many "non scrubs" has he beaten so far out of 30 fights? He has 26 fights, How many did Matinez have at that point:dead1:

This post was directed at the same comment: I saw that, I'm sure it was an honest mistake though......we are getting a little amped up on this issue i think. We need some more threads to comment on. I want some threads on Canelo and Trout or Donaire and Rigo. There are too many good fights coming up and no breaking news, what's the deal?