Best of the past 20 years: Roy Jones Jr or Manny Pacquiao

Middle to Heavy or Flyweight to Junior Middle 160-200+ or 112-154 Major Titles and Loses Included Roy Jones Jr: Current Record: 55-8 *First Title Won was Against Bernard Hopkins (Then 22-1), Jones record was at 22-0. Winning the IBF Middleweight Title. *Second Title Won was against James Toney (Then 44-0-2), Jones record was at 27-0. Winning the IBF Super Middleweight Title. *Third Title Won was against Mike McCallum, Jones Record was at 34-0. Winning the WBC Light-Heavyweight Title. *First Lose by Disqualification Montell Griffin, In the Immediate rematch Jones Won by 1st round KO. *Fourth Title Won was against Lou De Valle (Then 27-1), Jones record was at37-1. Winning the WBA Light-Heavyweight Title. *Fifth Title Won was against Reggie Johnson (Then 39-5), Jones record was at 40-1. Winning the IBF Light-Heavyweight Title. *Sixth Title Won was against Eric Harding (Then 20-0), Jones record wa at 43-1. Winning the IBO Light-Heavyweight Title. *Seventh Title Won was against John Ruiz (Then 38-5), Jones record was at 48-1. Winning the WBA Heavyweight Title. *Eight & Ninth Title Won was against Antonio Tarver (Then 21-1) , Jones was 49-1. Winning the WBA & WBC Light-Heavyweight Titles. *3 Loses accumulated after winning titles to Tarver (KO,UD), and Glen Johnson (KO) *3 Win Streak against Prince Badi Alamo, Anthony Hanshaw, and Felix Trinidad. *Then Lost to Joe Calzaghe, for his Light-Heavyweight Title. *2 Win Streak against Omar Shieka, and Jeff Lacy. *3 Loses to Danny Green (TKO), Bernard Hopkins (UD), and Denis Lebedev (KO). * 2 new insignificant wins. * Awards And Titles- Ring Magazine Fighter Of The Year 1993, Ring Magazine Fighter Of The Year 1994, ESPN Fighter Of The Year 1995, IBF Middleweight Title, IBF Super Middleweight Title, WBC Light-Heavyweight Title (+2), WBA Light-Heavyweight Title (+2), IBF Light-Heavyweight Title, WBA Heavyweight Title, IBO Light-Heavyweight Title, IBA Light-Heavyweight Title, and Ring Magazine Light-Heavyweight Title. Manny Pacquiao Current Record: 54-6 *First Loss (KO) came by Rustico Terrecampo (Then 11-4) Pacquiao record was at 11-0. *First Title Won was against Chatchai Sasakul, Pacquiao record was at 24-1. Winning the WBC Flyweight Title. *Lost Title (KO) to Medgoen Singsurat (Then 14-0), Pacquiao record was at 26-1. *Second Title Won was against Lehlohonolo Ledwaba (Then 32-1), Pacquiao record was at 33-2. Winning the IBF Super Bantamweight Title. *Third Loss (UD) came by Eric Morales (Then 48-2), Pacquiao record was at 39-2-2. *Third Title Won against Juan Manuel Marquez (Then 48-3), Pacquiao record was at 45-3-2. Winning the WBC Featherweight Title. *Fourth Title Won against David Dallas (Then 34-1), Pacquiao record was at 47-3-2. Winning the WBC Lightweight Title. *Fifth Title Won against Ricky Hatton (Then 45-1), Pacquiao records was at 49-3-2. Winning the IBO Light-Welterweight Title. *Sixth Title Won against Miguel Cotto (Then 34-1), Pacquiao record was at 50-3-2. Winning the WBO Welterweight Title. (Catch-weight of 145lbs.) *Seventh Title Won against Antonio Margarito (Then 38-6), Pacquiao record was at 52-3-2. Winning the WBC Light-Middleweight Title. (Catch-weight of 150lbs.) *Currently Coming of Two loses to Timothy Bradley (UD) and Juan Manuel Marquez (KO).* Titles Won: WBC Flyweight Title, IBF Super Bantamweight Title, WBC Super Featherweight Title, WBC Lightweight Title, WBO Welterweight Title, WBC Light-Middleweight Title, IBO Light-Welterweight Title, Ring Featherweight Title, Ring Super Featherweight Title, & Ring Light Welterweight Title.*

Comments (20)

Ifctitles post on Roy is just ludicrous.

13y ago

Ray_Corso

They both accomplished alot in the sport thats been in decline talent wise through this period. I'll take Pacman over Roy for his agressiveness and activity also his opponents abilities. A few looses don't mean much to me when its against high quality fighters. His KO to Juan was a devastating one and a very amatuerish mistake on his part but it happened and you live with it! I hope Manny doesn't make the same choice as Roy has by fighting way beyond their prime years. As to statements like "catch weights" being said to knock a fighter, thats gone on for years!! When a contract is offered with a + or - lbs. agreement you can accept or deny or renegotiate it. So its NO excuse for taking it then loose and use as an excuse. If a fighters signs to come in at 145 instead of 147 its NO Big Deal!!! Pacman wins an adge over Roy but lets see what Manny does this coming year. He will fight one or two more times, lets see what results are recorded. Ray

13y ago

IronDanHamza

To say Roy Jones didn't have a high Ring IQ is genuinely baffling. This site get's more morons by the day.

13y ago

IronDanHamza

I don't think either of them are but Roy Jones is greater than Pacquaio IMO and other than Holyfield the greatest active fighter at the moment.

13y ago

THE_REED

Jones's technical game is garbage he relied purely on his athleticism. Idiotic post, Roy set more traps than a bear hunter. Used feints and footwork to set up accurate single shots & combinations. Showed his heart in Tarver 1 when he was out on his feet. Showed his IQ when he boxed smartly at heavyweight controlling the fight with his jab, against a guy who outweighed him by 30lbs. If all you need is athleticism why did Andre Dirrell get batted around the ring? Every NBA player could be a boxing superstar, if all you need is athleticism.

13y ago

elfag

All i can say is Roy went to heavyweight and did not fight at a catchweight or anything Ruiz you got to be under 215 or no fight. No special testing. Dont ask how I gained muscle.

13y ago

gmc_rfc_06

Did it also take his boxing IQ? Was he slower, perhaps less powerful, with not as great reflexes? Yep. But it isn't like all thost attributes just fell off the map. It also didn't mean he had to start losing in such a fashion. It wasn't like he simply lost, he got his backside kicked. It doesn't matter about IQ if you can no longer take a punch or get out of the way. Even someone as slick as Mayweather gets hit, it happens. Roy taking off those 30lbs took his ability to take punches. He was shot. A shot fighter is always a bad thing, a shot athletic fighter is the worst kind. Roy should have retired after the Ruiz fight if money wasn't a problem, but he carried on as a shot fighter and he got what all shot fighters get.

13y ago

TOBYLEE1

Jones for me was better. Toney was one of the top 3 fighters of the time and he beat him with no doubts. Jones was late for the party at 168. Eubank, Benn, Collins and others were already past their prime. I wish that he had fought Durius Michalczewski and Calzaghe at that time. Pac has good wins against Morales, Marquez and Barrera that rank very high in my book, but he also lost to two of them. The catchweight fights taints a bit his other titles especially the one for the 154 title

13y ago

LHK

Roy has been shot for almost a decade. Floyd, B-Hop and those other guys never had to take off 30+lbs of muscle, that ruined Roy as a fighter. It didn't just take his speed, it took his power, his reflexes, his punch resistance and just about everything else. Roy was already past prime when he went to HW, he just had enough of his 'superman' attributes to still look good, but when he came back down he lost 3 of his next 4 fights, many would say all 4 of them...including 2 by brutal KO. He was shot the moment he dropped back down from HW. Did it also take his boxing IQ? Was he slower, perhaps less powerful, with not as great reflexes? Yep. But it isn't like all thost attributes just fell off the map. It also didn't mean he had to start losing in such a fashion. It wasn't like he simply lost, he got his backside kicked.

13y ago

lfc19titles

styles make fights, as I said before, Jones for me only did the basics in boxing well, his superman abilities did the rest for him, he was the ultimate boxing athlete in his prime, I would say the best boxing body of all time, his speed and power was just insane with that said he had a poor jab, poor defence and a poor boxing brain, so when he lost his superman powers, he just started losing some styles take you out early, roys style meant he won't have a long career like say hopkins or floyd who are supreme technically gifted boxers in the game Manny Pac is slightly difference but again, he relies a hell of a lot on his body, his movement when attacking is better than roys, his combination punching and the way he used his angles to really land his shots brought back entertainment that was lost by the current crop of 147s at the time (mainly floyd). He relied a lot on his conditioning for his all action style, more importantly he relied on his speed and sharpness.... while someone like floyd can rely on his head to not take risks and lure fights in, pac when he lost a bit of his speed, started landing less often, he started getting hit more often by counters, thus you see the man today, both pac and roy relied on their extreme speed and sharpness, naturally both lost it early which is what happens... both made mistakes at not retiring early, around 31 years old both needed to retire I would say, that way they can leave at top but both never

13y ago

tredh

You have to take Jones' whole career into consideration. That includes him getting KTFO by Green and Lebdev, which certainly leaves a stain on his career. I don't know why he's still around. Winning a heavyweight title is impressive as a one time Middleweight but let's not forget it was John Ruiz he won the title from. Pacquiao is more impressive, has fought the better opposition and took more risks. Everytime he has moved up in weight he has fought the best in that Divsion! By the way I can't stand Pacman but you gotta respect his achievements HAHAHAHAHA, damn so you just gonna tell a bold face lie like that?

13y ago

BigAlexSand

A quick look at Roy Jones resume will tell you everything. There are not even a single great fighter in his resume and was expected to win most of his fights. He fought at Heavyweight but quickly sent back to where he belongs and never been the same. Really, an undefeated James Toney with over 40 fights (at his greatest), a young Bernard Hopkins who went on to become arguably the best middle weight reign in history, a young Olympic gold medalist Antonio Tarver, A prime Montell Griffin, and though Ruiz was far from great he beat great heavyweights in their prime.

13y ago

djtmal

There are not even a single great fighter in his resume and was expected to win most of his fights. . ho ho ho...james toney wasn't great? he was #1 p4p, hof, slickest of the slick, and jones beat him easy...manny pac struggled with the same type of fighter in marquez for years and eventually was ko'd...come on man...

13y ago

gmc_rfc_06

I believe there is a difference between being shot and losing a little. Ali at the end of his career was shot. Jones is shot now, and has been for a few years. But when he started getting knocked out? Jones wasn't shot. He didn't walk in like Ali did against Holmes or Berbick. Actually, it was more like Ali after his return. Not quite the athlete he was before. Ali showed his greatness through how he was able to change. Floyd has been slowing down for a good while now, but that hasn't stopped him from dominating his opponents. Roy has been shot for almost a decade. Floyd, B-Hop and those other guys never had to take off 30+lbs of muscle, that ruined Roy as a fighter. It didn't just take his speed, it took his power, his reflexes, his punch resistance and just about everything else. Roy was already past prime when he went to HW, he just had enough of his 'superman' attributes to still look good, but when he came back down he lost 3 of his next 4 fights, many would say all 4 of them...including 2 by brutal KO. He was shot the moment he dropped back down from HW.

13y ago

LHK

I personally see no reason to judge a fighters greatness based on what happened when they were shot. To me, that is nothing. Be it Ali, Roy, Mosley, Toney, Holyfield or whoever. When talking about their greatness, you look at them when they were great and the things they achieved at their best. I believe there is a difference between being shot and losing a little. Ali at the end of his career was shot. Jones is shot now, and has been for a few years. But when he started getting knocked out? Jones wasn't shot. He didn't walk in like Ali did against Holmes or Berbick. Actually, it was more like Ali after his return. Not quite the athlete he was before. Ali showed his greatness through how he was able to change. Floyd has been slowing down for a good while now, but that hasn't stopped him from dominating his opponents.

13y ago

straightleft

Roy Jones and it isn't even close. In fact its laughable to even put Pacquiao in the same sentence as Roy. A quick look at Roy Jones resume will tell you everything. There are not even a single great fighter in his resume and was expected to win most of his fights. He fought at Heavyweight but quickly sent back to where he belongs and never been the same.

13y ago

djtmal

last 20 years between roy and pac? roy jones

13y ago

lfc19titles

tough one.....I think P4P you prob go with jones but I think Pac defeated better p4p fighters In terms of ATG list, 100 percent Pacman for the reasons stated above You have put the awards jones won, but not Pacmans, why not?

13y ago

straightleft

but out of those 8 divisions 135-he beat david diaz who was the weakest champion there-no impressive 147-won the title at a catchweight and that 154 title he won as a vacant title at a catchweight of 150 against an unranked fighter so thats not really that impressive at all It is easy to say than done. Choose any fighter who started boxing at 106 then let him fight at catchweight all the weakest champ at 112, then move up to 122 and fight the weakest champ there at catchweight and so on at 126, 130, 135, 140, 147 and finally at 154. So easy right? No wonder there are many 8 divisions title holder and 4 lineal divisions champ in the world. Pacquiao is just smoke and mirror.

13y ago

p4pchamp8077

Roy Jones and it isn't even close. In fact its laughable to even put Pacquiao in the same sentence as Roy.

13y ago