P4P discussion.

Broner and Guerrero are on the P4P list ahead of Bradley(in Guerrero case,which he clearly should not be)and Broner is ahead of Pac Wlad and Bradley..Enough said.. I respect the ring Mag and their rankings,it's opinion..Just have ya own..Any knowledgeable fan knows Mares and Froch belong on the P4P list in stead of either Guerrero or Broner..But any knowledgeable fan also knows that manipulation is part of the game as well..Which is obviously being done in this case..

From what I understand about P4P, it has nothing to do with how a fighter does in his next fight. "Example" Nonito vs Rig... People say if Nonito beats Rig he should move up the P4P list? From what I understand tht's a divisional rise, not a P4P rise. In fact I don't even think there is a such thing as P4P #2, #3 and so on. When Ray was appointed P4P, who was #2? P4P was invinted to judge who was the best fighter of them all, combine style, ability, skill ect ect..... Who's style/skill would carry thru the weights, that's how you judge the P4P best. But now we have fused divisional rankings in with it..... Whats up with that? No it isnt.

how can you truly gouge a fighter's skill level or head-to-head ability if they don't challenge themselves against top quality opposition?

what do you mean by "real fans?" Cuz it seems all you do on NSB for the most part is talk about PEDs, Floyd, Pac and Nonito. Seems mostly negative posts as well.Because I see the breakdown of the sport. To be honest it was my bad to get caught up in the BS, but at the same time I'm not gonna back track and say I dont stand by what I've said. But this post has nothing to do with none of those guys, it just seems you cant stay focused on the topic. And no diss, but that tells me alot about you.

Look in the mirror, holmes.I guess you felt I was talking to you when I mentioned "retarded fans", hence the insult. But I assure you I wasn't, just trying to filter real fans from fly by nighters.

PFP is simply a mythical judging system based on personal opinion of who the best fighter would be if all fighters included were the same size.Again, I know this. But when did div ranking get involved? It just shows the breakdown of real fans.

dude, it's subjective. you're thinking too hard.Dude, I know this. And if thinking too hard is noticing how retarded fans have become, then ok

PFP is simply a mythical judging system based on personal opinion of who the best fighter would be if all fighters included were the same size.