Vitali says Haye turned down a contract to fight him in Moscow to instead fight Chisora.
Also says he will fight his mandatory next and after that if Haye is highly ranked, maybe they can fight.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/boxing/21957170
I don't know why people are so fixated on this fight, move on because I honestly don't think Team Vitali wants the fight, from what I know they told Haye to fight Chisora, then they said he cannot fight him in July 2012 before their September 2012 fight. So if both teams don't want to listen to each other then tough move on.
This is all true, but why than didn't Vits speak up than and say "No, I don't agree to this scenario"? He should have kept his word when he said "This isn't about money, it's personal", but instead has had all sorts of stipulations and demands.
And that makes him different than what other champions.....?
What's being said on the post-fight presser is not what's written in a contract or a done deal. And especially not when Vitali agreed on nothing of it.
This is all true, but why than didn't Vits speak up than and say "No, I don't agree to this scenario"? He should have kept his word when he said "This isn't about money, it's personal", but instead has had all sorts of stipulations and demands.
That's not what he said. He said they had agreed to fight Vitali, but was going to go ahead with Chisora in the meantime.
And obviously Vitali wasn't gonna sit around and wait for Haye. He could have lost to Chisora or he could have been injured, anything can happen in boxing that's why you have to focus on one fight at a time. Haye was boxing's biggest joke at the time, he wasn't in the position to make Vitali wait.
The evidence is there that shows the Klitschko team has been lying and contradicting themselves over the past year. Saying they have no interest in fighting Haye one minute and then saying they want to. It seems Vitali starts mentioning Haye in the run up to him fighting a weak opponent to gain interest.
All popliticians are professional liars.
Vitali's not going anywhere....he said he'll quit before he's 45, that leaves him 3 more years of fighting.
Three more years of Vittles fighting the Charrs of the heavyweight division...wonderful!!
I think you forget that Haye ducked Vitali in 2009... So choose to believe whom you want...
The evidence is there that shows the Klitschko team has been lying and contradicting themselves over the past year. Saying they have no interest in fighting Haye one minute and then saying they want to. It seems Vitali starts mentioning Haye in the run up to him fighting a weak opponent to gain interest.
You mean apart from
1.Team Klitschko telling him to.
2.Team Klitschko saying that Haye is not in their plans.
3.It was already in play.
4.Haye didn't have a British boxing license and Klitschko saying he won't fight Haye without one.
5.The WBC saying they won't sanction the fight.
The excuse of not signing the contract because he might lose is weak. He signed the Charr fight 1 week before the Haye-Chisora fight. He couldn't wait a week? I think he wanted to get it signed so he could avoid Haye.
I think you forget that Haye ducked Vitali in 2009... So choose to believe whom you want...
Vitali chose another opponent in Charr as Haye turned down the September offer.
Of course it's about money, especially for Haye, whomust be broke already since he's returning.
It doesn't work the way that you sign two contracts at once, you know, 'I beat Chisora and then I'll fight Vitali'. Team Klitschko cannot offer such special contracts for any fighter. What if Haye would lose vs Chisora? Get injured? Vitali cannot play such games, especially when he wouldn't even know if Haye would turn up in Moscow.
There was no reason for Haye to fight Chisora; he could just have fought Vitali.
You mean apart from
1.Team Klitschko telling him to.
2.Team Klitschko saying that Haye is not in their plans.
3.It was already in play.
4.Haye didn't have a British boxing license and Klitschko saying he won't fight Haye without one.
5.The WBC saying they won't sanction the fight.
The excuse of not signing the contract because he might lose is weak. He signed the Charr fight 1 week before the Haye-Chisora fight. He couldn't wait a week? I think he wanted to get it signed so he could avoid Haye.
freedom, you are a sound guy, you know this is all media bs from team vitali to save face
you know they demanded haye and chisora to fight each other to get vitali, this was said by them. After haye look exceptional in defeating chisora, the excuses came out
What's being said on the post-fight presser is not what's written in a contract or a done deal. And especially not when Vitali agreed on nothing of it.
How is Haye agreeing to fight in September turning it down? It was the Klitschko team that said no and chose to fight Charr instead.
That's not exactly true, is it?
This is all a rehash of earlier Haye-Klitschko negotiations (c.2009-2011) - e.g. each side blaming the other for lack of progress.
The really sticking-point is MONEY. How much does Haye bring to the table? What split does he deserve? Where in the world would bring the highest gate receipts/tv revenues?
:haha: This guy always post pro-klitschko threads. Not to be trusted/believed/read
How hard is it to get through that Haye wanted to fight Chisora then Vitali - Vitali wanted to fight Haye, but didn't want Haye to go ahead with a fight that was already agreed. Haye said I'll fight Chisora, then I'll fight you. Vitali said: Charr is my man.
Simple.
Vitali chose another opponent in Charr as Haye turned down the September offer.
Of course it's about money, especially for Haye, whomust be broke already since he's returning.
It doesn't work the way that you sign two contracts at once, you know, 'I beat Chisora and then I'll fight Vitali'. Team Klitschko cannot offer such special contracts for any fighter. What if Haye would lose vs Chisora? Get injured? Vitali cannot play such games, especially when he wouldn't even know if Haye would turn up in Moscow.
There was no reason for Haye to fight Chisora; he could just have fought Vitali.
What's the odds on Klitschko sending an offer when Haye announces his opponent and then start claiming Haye chose that fighter instead of him? Before the Haye-Chisora fight was in play team Klitschko told the world they weren't interested in a Haye fight. They waited until Haye-Chisora was already in play to send an offer, which Haye accepted and team Klitschko pulled out of the fight.
No.
Haye refused to fight Vitali, remember this excuse he used:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=567095&highlight=Ukraine
freedom, you are a sound guy, you know this is all media bs from team vitali to save face
you know they demanded haye and chisora to fight each other to get vitali, this was said by them. After haye look exceptional in defeating chisora, the excuses came out
Stop with the lies Vitali, only your nut hugger fan base will believe you
LIVE IN FRONT OF THE WORLD, team vitali
"fight Chisora and the winner fights Vitali"
after haye Kos Chisora
team Vitali vanish....
3 weeks later...
"haye refused to fight us and instead took the Chisora fight"
we have video proof of team Vitali demanding haye and chisora fight to get him, the proof is there
:stupid:
Obviously, Haye has never been willing to fight Vitali in Eastern Europe.
Where does it say eastern Europe? It doesn't. Klitschko fans now trying to lump countries together as an excuse for Vitali. Pathetic.
What happened to Vitali fighting Haye in early 2013 like Boente said if he doesn't retire?
:haha: This guy always post pro-klitschko threads. Not to be trusted/believed/read
How hard is it to get through that Haye wanted to fight Chisora then Vitali - Vitali wanted to fight Haye, but didn't want Haye to go ahead with a fight that was already agreed. Haye said I'll fight Chisora, then I'll fight you. Vitali said: Charr is my man.
Simple.
That is exactly what happened.
No.
Haye refused to fight Vitali, remember this excuse he used:
http://www.boxingscene.com/forums/showthread.php?t=567095&highlight=Ukraine
What's an article after the Charr fight at the end of September about not fighting in the Ukraine got to do with Haye agreeing to fight Vitali in September in Russia.