There would be no bloodsucking corrupt sanctioning bodies. There would be no greedy corrupt rivaling promoters preventing big fights from happening because they prefer to do in-house fights. There would be no ducking since Dana strips his fighters if they refuse to defend their titles against tough comp. It would be one big organization where everyone would have to face everyone until there's ONE champ per weight class.
Now I see many boxing fans/MMA haters claim how this would not be good for boxing. Can someone explain how? Can anyone explain how having guys like Arum, Shaefer, and the ABC sanctioning bodies would be better for our sport than the way UFC is ran?
Is this because you are upset that a 48 year old grandfather KTFO'D the UFC HW Champ 2 fights removed from their title. I know Mercer's career and the K1 fights that he "showed up" for and lost. I watched the video of Shannon Briggs destroy a UFC HW Tom Erickson in K1,it means nothing.:boxing:
Kimbo got run the fuk out of MMA you don't know what the fuk you are talking about.
Run out of MMA ? Is that even possible ? He was the main draw for CBS and then after KTFO'd, he got a shot at the UFC ??? I hate Kimbo,was glad to hear he got KTFO'D...can't wait until it happens in boxing too.I heard it beacuse MMA is not worth watching to me.It sucks donkey balls. Write it down now,Kimbo will be in Bellator or some other MMA Clown Circus soon. If he does well,the U ****ing Cheating Org will give him a title shot like they did with 2-1 Lesnar. :boxing:
In MMA, there's no way Danny Garcia is fighting Zab Judah after he just KO'd Khan.
His next fight would've been Matthysse, then Peterson, then whoever was next in line.
No man you are right,we would NEVER see a 2-1 fighter who tapped out 1fight before fighting for the UFC HW title EVER get a title shot.Especially after not beating the man,Mir, who he lost to before getting said title shot,right ??? Did I miss something with Brock Lesnar becoming UFC HW champ this way ? :boxing:
You need to check yourself here dude. Noons fought Diaz twice and TKO'd him in their first fight on cuts...look it up.
P.S Chris Ferguson is and always was a boxer.I knew dudes who trianed with his brother and he was an excellent boxer. Kimbo is Chris Ferguson dude. Chris is a boxer who tried street fighting and mma to make $$$. He is a bad mma dude and average HW right now as a boxer. :boxing:
Kimbo got run the fuk out of MMA you don't know what the fuk you are talking about.
from a fans perspective i understand what you are saying but ask a lot of fighters how well run the ufc really is. i think the biggest difference is in boxing fighters see roughly some where from 70-80% of the revenue from an event where as in ufc it is estimated the fighters see 10-15% of the revenue
Yeah if you are pacquiao, mayweather, or cotto 80% of the revenue thats a bit much.
you clearly did not because the former boxer Noons got dominated from start to finish in that fight. Mercer did knock out Sylvia but was also dominated by Kimbo slice in mma. its a totally different sport.
You need to check yourself here dude. Noons fought Diaz twice and TKO'd him in their first fight on cuts...look it up.
P.S Chris Ferguson is and always was a boxer.I knew dudes who trianed with his brother and he was an excellent boxer. Kimbo is Chris Ferguson dude. Chris is a boxer who tried street fighting and mma to make $$$. He is a bad mma dude and average HW right now as a boxer. :boxing:
GSP vs. Silva is like asking for Floyd vs. Ward. It's a huge difference in size.
Fedor vs. X is also silly. Fedor was never in the UFC and he turned down the biggest mma contract of all time out of principle.
Aldo vs. Edgar was a superfight.
Penn vs. GSP also was.
The superfights in boxing are between fighters of the same weightclass. Under a UFC type monopoly we would NEVER fail to see Martinez vs. GGG, Floyd vs. Pac etc etc etc.
Ward vs Dawson..2 Ring Champions taking on each other.
Sergio vs Chavez.Champ vs Champ
Trout vs Canelo..#1 vs #2 at 154
Vlad vs Haye...HW Champ vs CW Champ
Money vs Mosely..2 ATG
Manny vs Maragrito
ETC...ETC...ETC...
The only MEGA Fight in boxing that was missed was Pac v Money in the last 10 years with very few exceptions from promotional companies.
GGG is must see tv..but he is not even in at top 3 at MW right now. Sergio v Geale would be MEGA Fight by UFC standards..belt holder vs beltholder.
We all want to see great fights and will. We don't need one promotional company controlling everything and driving down fighter salaries while making a killing off a flawed product like the UFC does.
I am more concerned about watching 3 great weekends of sold out BOXING coming up and the drama adds to the sport.:boxing:
Their last main event was Nick Diaz vs St Perry. I've watched like 3-4 mma fights ever. I did watch former bad boxer KJ Nooons tool on Diaz and stop him on cuts easily. Watched 48 year old Mercer KTFO Sylvia in 9 seconds out of curiousity. I also watched St Perry sit in his car as he was scared to spar at the Wildcard a few years back.Dana White is a former dancing instructor,enough said. :boxing:
you clearly did not because the former boxer Noons got dominated from start to finish in that fight. Mercer did knock out Sylvia but was also dominated by Kimbo slice in mma. its a totally different sport.
I agree with the whole one governing body idea, but it's not like the UFC is the only MMA company. IMO it'd be the same thing to wish either TR or GBP totally took over boxing.
Difference is night and day. In MMA everyone has fought everyone in every division. In contrast, how many boxing matchups that fans have been fantasizing do you think will come true? Probably never. Not in your lifetime. Promoters would rather do Broner vs Reese/Malignaggi. Recyle Mosley, Hopkins... These people in the business are just wasting people's time and money.
No ufc fighter makes anything like the top boxers do. If boxing were run like the ufc then boxers would take a huge paycut. Money attracks talented boxers. If they don't make top dollar to compete in such a hard dangerous sport then most of the better fighters would not be fighting.
jessie varrgas isn't a big name but was making big bucks with floyd and co.,berto as well financial wise i don't see ufc being on the level of boxing.
but ufc is run a hell of a lot better but like someone suggested boxing would do better with a tennis type system.
Remember Kessler vs Magee? Never mind Kessler was getting 1.4 million for that walk over, but that walk over himself, Brian Magee got paid 800k. Anderson Silva only received a 200k purse for his last fight. And ****ing hell, the ratings and sponsorship for a Kessler fight in Denmark also reap in a hell of a lot more than that.
I swear these posters themselves must be paid by the UFC to spread this **** around. All the evidence says boxers are paid better. It's the bigger sport, it soaks up more cash, deal with it. That BS was started by Dana White claiming he pays his fighters better and his zombie like fan base believes every word without question.
Boxing is a sport. MMA is a sport. UFC is a company. Top Rank is a company. Dana can do whatever he wants with his company just like Arum does whatever he wants with his. Can't compare UFC to boxing.
Their last main event was Nick Diaz vs St Perry. I've watched like 3-4 mma fights ever. I did watch former bad boxer KJ Nooons tool on Diaz and stop him on cuts easily. Watched 48 year old Mercer KTFO Sylvia in 9 seconds out of curiousity. I also watched St Perry sit in his car as he was scared to spar at the Wildcard a few years back.Dana White is a former dancing instructor,enough said. :boxing:
Did you also see Diaz **** on Noons in their rematch?
Did you see Kimbo strangle Mercer?
Did you see Couture play with Toney?
This discussion is so juvenile and retarded. It's two different sports. You don't need worldclass boxing to be the best at fighting. You need to be good at everything.
If i throw you on the ground no boxing in the world can save you.
GSP vs. Silva is like asking for Floyd vs. Ward. It's a huge difference in size.
Fedor vs. X is also silly. Fedor was never in the UFC and he turned down the biggest mma contract of all time out of principle.
Aldo vs. Edgar was a superfight.
Penn vs. GSP also was.
The superfights in boxing are between fighters of the same weightclass. Under a UFC type monopoly we would NEVER fail to see Martinez vs. GGG, Floyd vs. Pac etc etc etc.
Flawed argument. The GSP/Silva fight is between guys in different weight classes, that have already dominated their weight classes.
I've yet to see a fighter dominate their weight division, without jumping around, and cherry picking.
The whole Fedor saga was retarded. His management wanted to co-promote with the UFC. Not to mention, they wanted a piece of the UFC as well.
How many times does the UFC put the champ vs. the #1 guy? How many times has the UFC champ had to clean out a division? EVERY TIME.
Boxing's formula is ****.
Their last main event was Nick Diaz vs St Perry. I've watched like 3-4 mma fights ever. I did watch former bad boxer KJ Nooons tool on Diaz and stop him on cuts easily. Watched 48 year old Mercer KTFO Sylvia in 9 seconds out of curiousity. I also watched St Perry sit in his car as he was scared to spar at the Wildcard a few years back.Dana White is a former dancing instructor,enough said. :boxing:
Many boxing fans also fail to realize that many boxers fight for peanuts until they are on the big stage. Now while the superstars of boxing make WAY more than the superstars of UFC, the undercard fighters in both sports make very little money. After making million dollar paydays, a guy like Kelly Pavlik was offered just $50k for his comeback fight. I remember Zab Judah fighting for just $15k.
Correction,Pavlik was offered $250k for PPV undercard fight, 75 k for TR live on FOX , 50 K for ESPN fight, and then $1.025 million for Bute fight. :boxing:
As a boxing fan, I actually kinda enjoy all the drama and corruption. It adds a nice touch to the sport. I mean, we get it ALL in boxing... We've got The Problem Broner trying to be like "big bro"... We've got all the ducking and excuses to entertain us... We've got sh*t talk 100x better than WWE... Drug test drama, jail-terms, controversial decisions etc.. We've got no idea about the sh*t that's gonna happen next. IMO, the sport would be dead f*ckin boring without all the dramas.