Does Provodnikov have boxing skill?

That over hand right over Bradley's jab was every bit as skillful as Matthyses counter against Dallas jr

I think you're harsh comparing Maidana to Ruslan. Maidana looks crude but he can box and has a lot of energy, if you watch the Soto-Karass fight you actually see Maidana showing decent skills. Maidana was almost knocked out in that fight.

not everyone who steps in the ring has skills

Well he looked very strong at 147. He looked bigger than Bradley and I would say that he is stronger than Maidana. Just my opinion. I hope you're not talking about Provonikov... that dude moved his head more than a prime Tyson vs Bradley. And Bradley threw A LOT. And his defense wasn't terrible in that fight; again, Bradley threw A LOT. You have to re-watch that fight again. he isnt the best technically but he isnt crap either. he is better than maidana in my opinion. got some very good power aswell. will be watching his next fight anyway. Agree, agree, agree

he isnt the best technically but he isnt crap either. he is better than maidana in my opinion. got some very good power aswell. will be watching his next fight anyway.

I think Provonikov is more skilled inside than Maidana. If you look at his shots, especially the left hook and right hand, he throws them very nice and accurate. His problem is that he doesn't move his head, doesn't use a jab on his way in and his defense is terrible. Let's remember, he was hit a lot by Bradley. Maidana is now using his jab more but isn't as strong as Provonikov. He's a 140lber, where as the Russian is very strong at 147. I hope you're not talking about Provonikov... that dude moved his head more than a prime Tyson vs Bradley. And Bradley threw A LOT. And his defense wasn't terrible in that fight; again, Bradley threw A LOT. You have to re-watch that fight again.

Ruslan moved up. He acclamated to 147 well but I wouldn't say he's stronger than Maidana Well he looked very strong at 147. He looked bigger than Bradley and I would say that he is stronger than Maidana. Just my opinion.

I don't think he's a plodder at all. He had his moments trapping Bradley on the ropes. A plodder can't do that. In addition he adjusted to Bradley's style multiple times. A plodder just comes forward and makes no adjustments. I do agree however that he needs to work on his defense. He is actually a pretty decent counter puncher when he commits to it. Lastly, a plodder usually throws wide looping shots. Ruslan throws short tight bombs. But I've been watching him for 2 years plus on ESPN.

Quote: Originally Posted by Mike Haynes P'kov is bigger, stronger and faster than Maidana - with a better punch resistance (body and head). P-kov would either kill Alexander or Alexander would set the world record for most clinches in a 12 boxing match. Bold statement. I actually believe Devon has been better at welterweight and i'm almost certain he'd put a thorough beating on Provodnicov. But on the original subject, Ruslan is a skilled pressure fighter through and through. The only problem with him is his conditioning. Pressure fighters live and die by conditioning. If you're a pressure fighter that tires, you won't last long among the elite. How did you make this assessment from him fighting Maidana and Bailey? Let's wait till he fights Brook, someone with actual skills, then see if he's better at WW or JWW. Posted from Boxingscene.com App for Android

I think he showed alot of subtle boxing skills. Small feints, small dips to get in and unload that right hand over and over. Just little nuances in his game that allowed him to compete with Bradley. I'd say, judging on this fight alone, he showed more skills than say Rios has, who I regard as a complete plodder. Rios though has the strength and power to put most guys away. I think Prov's biggest issue is that his face turns into jelly quickly. If someone with more power fights him, I'll kinda be concerned. Imagine Rios or Maidana throwing 1000 bombs and connecting 25-35% of the time

i think we all know & recognize provo's limitations... but i think he has great technique (before he punched himself out). im sure i will get crucified for this statement, but there were some moments where ruslan's bobbing and short hooks looked tyson-esque. ive never seen ruslan before this fight, but i was actually impressed with the guy. his tight combos & explosiveness was highly appreciated. i think with more conditioning and maturity, this dude might be trouble for EVERYONE. I was impressed with Provvy as well. A Maidana vs Provvy is somethin I'd wanna see. Too bad that's logjammed by the network feuds. I think Maidana keeps Prov dog at bay with the jab and Prov dog can't walk thru Chino's punches like bradley's. Fight goes the distance though, probably, and that says a lot right there

You never thought he looked like he wanted to quit is good for you. I didn't think he would quit, I said he looked like it. No matter how you try, it isn't the same. Sounds to me as if you're just engineering a way to be right either way. If Maidana had quit you would say, "I knew he was gonna do that, saw it comin", and since he didn't it switched to "well it looked like he was gonna quit, but I never thought he would" Wtf... Lol but whatever.

i think we all know & recognize provo's limitations... but i think he has great technique (before he punched himself out). im sure i will get crucified for this statement, but there were some moments where ruslan's bobbing and short hooks looked tyson-esque. ive never seen ruslan before this fight, but i was actually impressed with the guy. his tight combos & explosiveness was highly appreciated. i think with more conditioning and maturity, this dude might be trouble for EVERYONE.

In order for someone to look as if they are going to quit you need to accept a slight window of possibility that they would in the first place. That doesn't make any sense. I never thought he looked like he would quit. You are really nitpicking semantics and nuance but what you said is what you said, and I disagree witcha. :biggthump: You never thought he looked like he wanted to quit is good for you. I didn't think he would quit, I said he looked like it. No matter how you try, it isn't the same.

No, it really isn't. I said Maidana ("looked), like he was ready to quit". That does not translate into "I (think) Maidana would quit". This is a fact In order for someone to look as if they are going to quit you need to accept a slight window of possibility that they would in the first place. That doesn't make any sense. I never thought he looked like he would quit. You are really nitpicking semantics and nuance but what you said is what you said, and I disagree witcha. :biggthump:

He is not a boxer but he must have some skills. He was able to score with big punches on Bradley far more often than most of Bradley's other oponents. I am sure he did not land all those hard punches by luck. It took some timing, positioning, and accuracy to land that many hard punches on a good champion.

So who were u talking about its vague No, it really isn't. I said Maidana ("looked), like he was ready to quit". That does not translate into "I (think) Maidana would quit". This is a fact

Really, so that's how you interpret that post huh?? Wow.:pat: Lol So who were u talking about its vague. The post you were replying to had Maidana as the subject. So a reply with "He", naturally makes me think you are speaking on Maidana. So who? Ruslan, Karass? You aren't very clear.

Homie, you think Maidana would quit? Only way he'd quit is if you send him out on a stretcher. Really, so that's how you interpret that post huh?? Wow.:pat:

Honestly he looked like he was ready to quit to me. He has fortitude, that's for sure. Homie, you think Maidana would quit? Only way he'd quit is if you send him out on a stretcher.