good pros with bad amateur careers?

Danny Garcia and Brandon rios comes to mind Garcia: 107-13, the five time National Champion Rios: 230-35 and even holds a win over John Molina, Jr. In 2004 Ríos became the U.S. National Amateur Featherweight champion, he was also a United States Olympic alternate at 125 lbs

I kinda doubt it's accurate, I feel like it was exaggerated in the way most guys exaggerate amateur wins :lol1: But it's the only available piece of info, and I remember them saying it on hbo. The problem was, his day job was at Burger King. So turns out he made the right choice, his talents were much better suited to the pros. Actually I wouldn't doubt if it was true, Librado's style is terrible for amateur boxing, he's slow with his punches and on his feet, a 1 dimensional come forward fighter. He isn't a hard hitter either, that head gear really took a lot off his power. He gets his ass kicked practically every fight, however his opponents eventually tire from hitting his iron chin and he manages to walk them down. I remember him telling Edison Miranda that he always gets his ass kicked in sparring and didn't understand why lol.

Danny Garcia and Brandon rios comes to mind Actually both of them were quality (not elite at world level) amateurs, national champs. Rios was an Olympic alternate

Danny Garcia and Brandon rios comes to mind

I kinda doubt it's accurate, I feel like it was exaggerated in the way most guys exaggerate amateur wins :lol1: But it's the only available piece of info, and I remember them saying it on hbo. The problem was, his day job was at Burger King. So turns out he made the right choice, his talents were much better suited to the pros. :lol1: Good choice, indeed!

I think I heard Carlos Molina only had very few amateur fights, not sure if he won most of them or not. He's also not a "Mexican" in the Chavez/Morales/Canelo way, so I'd still count him.

That's very interesting, if accurate. You would think that a guy like that would naturally give it up, or have someone tell them not to quit their day job. lol I kinda doubt it's accurate, I feel like it was exaggerated in the way most guys exaggerate amateur wins :lol1: But it's the only available piece of info, and I remember them saying it on hbo. The problem was, his day job was at Burger King. So turns out he made the right choice, his talents were much better suited to the pros.

I know you said Mexicans don't count, but this Librado Andrade stat is really impressive: "During an HBO telecast of his fight against Yusaf Mack, it was reported that Andrade lost 14 of his 16 amateur bouts" That's very interesting, if accurate. You would think that a guy like that would naturally give it up, or have someone tell them not to quit their day job. lol

An interesting question.... My guess is that there are very few if any fighters like that. While it's certainly not unheard of for a strong amateur not to make it in the pros, I'd say a poor amateur almost certainly can't have professional success. If you're getting beat amongst guys that'll never fight pro (like most amateurs), what can be expected when you take a step up?

I know you said Mexicans don't count, but this Librado Andrade stat is really impressive: "During an HBO telecast of his fight against Yusaf Mack, it was reported that Andrade lost 14 of his 16 amateur bouts"

well not that stellar as pros, I mean the amateur record was not as clean as the pro one. Is there any fighters like this?

Hence them being called "Amateur" and "Professional"

Does that exist?

What do you mean by "bad"