Dwyer's Take on Rigo-Donaire

You have to also think that Rigo hasn't really been fighting the most notable guys in the world so far either and I'd venture to guess that he hasn't had the mindset to prepare for his best performance. I'm not saying that Rigo is slacking off in training so much but more so his mind might not have been in the state to where he would be pumped to truly prove himself. I only say this because a guy with his amateur pedigree (I know ams is not the pros) can probably win most of his fights not even being totally committed mentally. I feel Rigo will put forth the most effort he has ever put forth in this fight. I have to agree. It's human nature. You have to remind yourself to put out your best effort against someone you know isn't in your league. It's different from being locked in a cage with a Tiger. You tend to be raised to the highest power in that situation. No mental lapses are even possible.

I actually like this assessment from Dwyer. I didn't think about the jab aspect but I was keen on Rigo's footwork and the fact that Donaire keeps his hands down so much. Also, he is very predictable when he is loading up on his punches which is normally not so much of a problem because he is fast when he punches and the opponents usually get into block mode because of his power. Rigo's punches are very sharp, accurate and hard to spot. I can see him hurting Donaire as Donaire comes in after loading up for a big shot or as Dwyer mentioned, when he is stepping back with his hands down. Because of Rigo's great footwork, I agree that he will try to close the distance gap and counter with that sharp left up the middle as Nonito steps backwards after a big punch (he almost always keeps his hands down and admires his work for a moment after a big shot). Nonito's left hook and Rigo's vulnerability to getting hit with a left is the equalizer for me though. The other thing that sticks out to me is that Donaire is becoming kind of a star in a sense and a big ego comes along with that. I could imagine Donaire thinking that "this guy doesn't have a chance in hell" which is a very, very dangerous mindset to have in general, much less against a guy with Rigo's skillset. Nice breakdown, Math. Always a pleasure to read a post that makes some damn sense around here. :fing02:

He literally does. No...he picked Hernandez over Lara...actually he allways pick everyone over Lara...lol..focker

You have to favor Donaire in this match-up, but I think the call is fairly close, maybe 60/40. I've been researching these guys more closely and reviewing footage these past few days. The more I analyze, the closer I see it. Maybe it's just the fan in me that skews my thoughts in Rigo's favor, but I'm beginning to like his chances more as time goes on. Guillermo is truly talented. Even in the Cordoba fight, which still sickens me to watch, he showed he's far from your average fighter. I think neither Donaire nor Rigo have faced an opponent as impressive as each other. You have to also think that Rigo hasn't really been fighting the most notable guys in the world so far either and I'd venture to guess that he hasn't had the mindset to prepare for his best performance. I'm not saying that Rigo is slacking off in training so much but more so his mind might not have been in the state to where he would be pumped to truly prove himself. I only say this because a guy with his amateur pedigree (I know ams is not the pros) can probably win most of his fights not even being totally committed mentally. I feel Rigo will put forth the most effort he has ever put forth in this fight.

I swear he always picks the black fighter. :lol1: but he predicted romney to win though

I actually like this assessment from Dwyer. I didn't think about the jab aspect but I was keen on Rigo's footwork and the fact that Donaire keeps his hands down so much. Also, he is very predictable when he is loading up on his punches which is normally not so much of a problem because he is fast when he punches and the opponents usually get into block mode because of his power. Rigo's punches are very sharp, accurate and hard to spot. I can see him hurting Donaire as Donaire comes in after loading up for a big shot or as Dwyer mentioned, when he is stepping back with his hands down. Because of Rigo's great footwork, I agree that he will try to close the distance gap and counter with that sharp left up the middle as Nonito steps backwards after a big punch (he almost always keeps his hands down and admires his work for a moment after a big shot). Nonito's left hook and Rigo's vulnerability to getting hit with a left is the equalizer for me though. The other thing that sticks out to me is that Donaire is becoming kind of a star in a sense and a big ego comes along with that. I could imagine Donaire thinking that "this guy doesn't have a chance in hell" which is a very, very dangerous mindset to have in general, much less against a guy with Rigo's skillset.

I am sorry but I can't stand to listen to that guy. He says right about 30 times every video. It takes him 14 minutes to say what he could say in one minute. He picks the black man to win just about every time. He is wrong about 75% of the time. I'll take a wild guess and say he picked Rigondeaux to win and I think he will be wrong again if the fight happens.

Donaire should be a 6 to 1 favorite, no knock on Rigo but Nonito is just that great. I'll give you 6-1 on your 14k right now.

I think when making predictions he looks at the betting line first try's to find a flaw in that and then gives a breakdown to support his claim. It's not an easy thing to do. Ask any football fan right now why their team is going to make it to the Super Bowl this year, once their 45 minute explanation is up show them the actual odds of that happening... Eyebrows will be raised. It's as simple as looking at the Mayweather guererro fight. Mayweather is a -1300 favorite ... Does Mayweather beat guererro 13 times in a row ? Probably not. Guererro is giving +700 odds to win. Could guererro win one fight out of 7 against Mayweather ? Maybe. So there is probably more value in betting guererro than Mayweather. Then you just create a "story" to justify your bet. This above ^^^ was just an example. Switch Mayweather and guererro names out with whoever you like.

It's not that bad a view in that history has shown that when one doesn't engage Donaire, Donaire opts to solely throw big shots as oppose to simply touching his opponent, but this is still the fastest most talented fighter Rigo has ever faced, he's never fought at this level. I wouldn't pick Rigo at all. You have to favor Donaire in this match-up, but I think the call is fairly close, maybe 60/40. I've been researching these guys more closely and reviewing footage these past few days. The more I analyze, the closer I see it. Maybe it's just the fan in me that skews my thoughts in Rigo's favor, but I'm beginning to like his chances more as time goes on. Guillermo is truly talented. Even in the Cordoba fight, which still sickens me to watch, he showed he's far from your average fighter. I think neither Donaire nor Rigo have faced an opponent as impressive as each other.

He's coming from a gambling point of view. He says Rigo wins by UD or get's KO'd, I mean it doesn't take a genius to go that way. What did you think about Dwyer's fight analysis for this bout?

He's coming from a gambling point of view. He says Rigo wins by UD or get's KO'd, I mean it doesn't take a genius to go that way. It's not that bad a view in that history has shown that when one doesn't engage Donaire, Donaire opts to solely throw big shots as oppose to simply touching his opponent, but this is still the fastest most talented fighter Rigo has ever faced, he's never fought at this level. I wouldn't pick Rigo at all.

I'll never understand the fascination that took place with Dawson, his mental weakness, lack of killer instinct, literally dazing off, he was never well alert in the ring...so many failed to see those issues. Young undefeated american fighter with a slick style = hype. It is what it is, he even got endorsement from Floyd as being the best P4P fighter in the world. I just didn't expect hardcore fans to buy that **** though.

He's coming from a gambling point of view. He says Rigo wins by UD or get's KO'd, I mean it doesn't take a genius to go that way.

He literally does. he says guerrero mayweather is a tossup fight

And he's not even overly talented regardless. That too, he literally squared up every time he threw combinations, never understood it. Calzaghe would have beaten him, I say that because there was a period in time where many felt he would beat Joe.

I'll never understand the fascination that took place with Dawson, his mental weakness, lack of killer instinct, literally dazing off, he was never well alert in the ring...so many failed to see those issues. And he's not even overly talented regardless.

Or "Chad Dawson is the most talented fighter in the world" I'll never understand the fascination that took place with Dawson, his mental weakness, lack of killer instinct, literally dazing off, he was never well alert in the ring...so many failed to see those issues.

Yeah, he was pretty good years ago. In the last year or so he's been more miss than hit and made absolutely outlandish statments like; "Bute beats Froch 9 times out of 10" (After the fight) "Devon Alexander has one of the best jabs in Boxing" "Gavin Rees layed out the blue print to beat Adrien Broner" And the list goes on and on and on. Or "Chad Dawson is the most talented fighter in the world"

There was a stretch of time a few years ago where it seemed all of his predictions were on point, then over the past couple years he's been hit and miss. Still he usually has decent break downs or st least has interesting views. Yeah, he was pretty good years ago. In the last year or so he's been more miss than hit and made absolutely outlandish statments like; "Bute beats Froch 9 times out of 10" (After the fight) "Devon Alexander has one of the best jabs in Boxing" "Gavin Rees layed out the blue print to beat Adrien Broner" And the list goes on and on and on. He did get Pirog beating Jacobs though which I agreed with and it seemed he was the only person who agreed with my pick.