Cuz at least Matthyse has a punchers chance, and he has dropped every opponent he has ever faced.
Just how is guerrero gonna beat mayweather? the guy couldnt even finish a blind berto and there is no way he wins a decision, guerrero could be an akward tricky opponent but he has no way of beating floyd.
Matthysse is special
Those punches Guerrerro just missed by inches if Matthysse connects on Floyd with one of them and your hurt bad I don't care who you are
Guerrero's a far better opponent than Matthysse. Lucas would plod forward, punch air and eat counters all night. Guerrero should be relatively competitive for a few rounds at least.
yeah right, the guerrero fight was a joke
mathysse would have been fairly more entertaining, not to mention close
Guerrero's a far better opponent than Matthysse. Lucas would plod forward, punch air and eat counters all night. Guerrero should be relatively competitive for a few rounds at least.
Why would you rather have a guy with only a "puncher's chance" against one of the best defensive fighters of all time?
Saying someone has a puncher's chance isn't a compliment.
:lol1: It's crazy what haters come up with.
That's exactly what is gonna happen, they are gonna say Lucas was bloated, slow and sluggish from the weight gain.
I say let Lucas get a big win at 147 or atlest 1-3 wins at 147 and then maybe he can fight Floyd.
First of all i wasnt saying mathyse would beat floyd. i just think guerrero style has nothing for floyd, it has boring fight written all over it.
Matthysse has fought judah and alexander both good defensive fighters, he lost but hurt both of them, then he showed improvement and learning he fougth 2 good defensive fighters in soto and ajose and this time with a more aggresive style he demolished them, these were all tough fights and both soto and ajose had been ducked alot
Guerrero has been protected alot and unlike mathysse he hasnt fought any defensive fighters that can prepare him for floyd, watch the berto fight again if you disregard the first round it woulda been a very close fight
Again i said I would rather watch this fight than the guerrero one, even if people think its a missmatch, mathhyse would be actively looking for the ko the entire fight, after a while the guerrero vs floyd fight its gonna turn into a clinch fest
Matthysse, as impressive as he has been at 140 w/his KO's, is unproven at 147 and would likely get schooled by Mayweather at this time; no one should be calling for this fight until Lucas proves himself at 147. I'm tired of Floyd fighting guys moving up.
The Guerrero fight might be a horrible match-up as his style is made for Floyd, but at least the guy has a couple fights at welterweight and seems to have grown into the weight unlike Marquez (135) in 2009 or as any 140 pounder moving up for a Floyd fight would.
This fight would be the easiest fight for an ageing Mayweather since he fought and dismantle Gatti, I would just imagine watching Lucas following him around eating jabs, and Mayweather backing him up and landing right hands at will, dumb fight for anyone that cares about Lucas.
Guerrero is a solid fight who presents a lot of problems for floyd southpaw,workrate,good mentality and confidence,stop looking for negatives all the time!!!
its insane how much hype matthysse gets around here. he struggled badly against a past prime judah (i thought judah won) and alexander and you want to talk about mayweather?
btw, how was alexander such an awful fight for floyd but matthysse is a good one? even if you think matthysse beat alexander it was razor close, they are on the same level for sure. so if alexander wasnt on floyds level and had no chance neither does lucas.
and guerrero is much better than matthysse, much more tested, skillfull, well rounded and just a better fighter. lots of fighters had power, hell ortiz had power. it doesnt mean anything if you dont have the tools to connect. you really think floyd is gonna give anyone a free shot? you gotta be good enough to land.
floyd would toy with matthysse. completely different class of fighters. you dont go from ajose and mike dallas to floyd mayweather.
Guerrero beats Matthysse. That's the funny part. And it's not even about who could beat who out of Floyd's opponents, Guerrero has more skill and actually has 2 wins at WW while Matthysse has none.
People will then say, "Well Floyd just beat a guy who was coming up in weight, and anyway he lost to Zab Judah now that I think about it".
Sorry but if Floyd's win over Ricky Hatton at 147 was discredited by his critics, despite Hatton being a former WW champion already, then I don't see how Floyd gets credit for embarrassing, outclassing, and absolutely toying with a worst fighter in Lucas Matthysse. Where Hatton was in his career and who he was in his career in 2007 and the hype he had, was the hype Matthysse has now on steroids. EVERYbody wanted to see that fight, i've seen just a couple of people, a couple of whispers here and there in NSB mentioning Mayweather vs Matthysse. And these people say other highly delusional things about Matthysse.
This ^^^^^
Always fun to see someone on this site for a long time who knows how it's working in here
I think Matthysee is a good fighter but he's certainly overrated by a small following.
Although I felt he beat Judah, it was a relatively close fight. Judah certainly had his moments in the fight and was in it.
If Matthysse is such a beast that would stop Mayweather and stop Pacquaio and beat anyone from 140-147 then you would think he would be able to get a passed prime Judah out of there, wouldn't you?
I'd like to see Matthysse-Bradley. I think that's a good fight.
I think Matthysse, Bradley and Guererro are the best 3 fighters between 140-147 outside of Mayweather, Pacquaio and Marquez at this certain point in time.
I just completely disagree. Lucas has done alot in just a few years on tv.
i agree. In a short time he has accomplished a pretty good bit. Maybe not as much as he would have like to, but surely nothing to frown on!
I just completely disagree. Lucas has done alot in just a few years on tv.
can't think of any decent name Lucas Mathyesse beat Soto is the closest thing to name opponent he has W over
If Matthysse really wants it, which he hasn't expressed any interest in a Floyd fight, then he should come up to 147 beat a couple of guys like at least Malignaggi for starters, there's Ortiz, there's Maidana, there's his countryman Abregu. Beat a couple of these guys, then call out Floyd and see if you could get him in 2014 after Floyd has fought Guerrero and Canelo, who are both better/more dangerous fighters than Matthysse. I don't even see Matthysse getting past Garcia or Peterson if he fights them. Let alone Victor Ortiz. A win over Ortiz would definitely create a lot of buzz for Matthysse like it did for Lopez, but I don't see Matthysse beating Ortiz, Peterson, or Garcia. Way over hyped for no reason.
I just completely disagree. Lucas has done alot in just a few years on tv.
If Matthysse really wants it, which he hasn't expressed any interest in a Floyd fight, then he should come up to 147 beat a couple of guys like at least Malignaggi for starters, there's Ortiz, there's Maidana, there's his countryman Abregu. Beat a couple of these guys, then call out Floyd and see if you could get him in 2014 after Floyd has fought Guerrero and Canelo, who are both better/more dangerous fighters than Matthysse. I don't even see Matthysse getting past Garcia or Peterson if he fights them. Let alone Victor Ortiz. A win over Ortiz would definitely create a lot of buzz for Matthysse like it did for Lopez, but I don't see Matthysse beating Ortiz, Peterson, or Garcia. Way over hyped for no reason.
great post