Mayweather isn't a big welter

why does it matter to you that handicaps get lost? your a fan of boxing/floyd, just watch him fight, no need to worry about what keyboard warriors think about him. Because handicaps should not get lost , whats real is always important to me , for instance Id rather see Roy Jones as a MW than fighting Ruiz , just like Roy picking Ruiz , Floyd could beat a lot of the 154s and 160 fighters but he cant give that size away to the best at some point weight becomes a bridge to far , Roy chose Ruiz not a Lewis and thats why he won a HW title , it all relevant and its painfully obvious that Floyd is held to standards way above any other fighter .

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Off course we do but does that mean a challenge must handicap him to do that , and will he get the credit for taking the handicap , I think it would just get lost in it all and if he were too lose that handicap would not get recognized the haters would just revel in the loss , and who is saying that he is not going to fight 154 guys anyway , I believe Canelo has been a lock for a while now , so Floyd in reality is taking more risks with weight than anybody and thats not enough the haters want even bigger opponents , he could have easily CWed them . why does it matter to you that handicaps get lost? your a fan of boxing/floyd, just watch him fight, no need to worry about what keyboard warriors think about him.

Also, people saying that Guerrero is the smaller guy are also wrong. Why? Because long before fighting Berto, Guerrero was a huge featherweight. He usually came in 10-15 pounds heavier on fight night. The HBO and Showtime crew were already talking about him as a "real" WW when he fought Katsidis and Siri (Salido). Guerrero will not be the smaller fighter in May. He will outweigh Floyd on fight night.

Hes not a normal sized welter. He was 151 vs Ortiz's 164 and Ortiz only recently moved to welter. He doesnt LOOK small but weight wize he is. 151 by todays standers IS a small welter. Freakin broner weighed 150 his last fight for lightweight. It was actually 150 and 146.5 at the weigh-in.

No doubt that what he does in the ring is incredible. But surely if youre a Mayweather fan then you want to see him in the most competitive fights possible? So i go back to my post earlier, either you think he would lose at 154lb against Trout, Canelo, and so he should fight at 147 and drop the 154lb belt and no.1 rating. Or you think he would win/be competitive and you should want him to fight those guys. The third option is you think he would be competitive against the bigger guys but you want him to stay away from them anyway. Shouldnt Floyd fans want to see him in the toughest winnable fights possible? Off course we do but does that mean a challenge must handicap him to do that , and will he get the credit for taking the handicap , I think it would just get lost in it all and if he were too lose that handicap would not get recognized the haters would just revel in the loss , and who is saying that he is not going to fight 154 guys anyway , I believe Canelo has been a lock for a while now , so Floyd in reality is taking more risks with weight than anybody and thats not enough the haters want even bigger opponents , he could have easily CWed them .

People keep saying in this thread that floyd should fight bigger fighters, but he HAS been doing that his entire career. He HAS been doing that in all of his recent fights. Out of his last 10 fights the only guy he outweighed was JMM. I am almost certain even hatton weighed more than him on fight night. Judah did (the weigh ins were done on that one). No doubt that what he does in the ring is incredible. But surely if youre a Mayweather fan then you want to see him in the most competitive fights possible? So i go back to my post earlier, either you think he would lose at 154lb against Trout, Canelo, and so he should fight at 147 and drop the 154lb belt and no.1 rating. Or you think he would win/be competitive and you should want him to fight those guys. The third option is you think he would be competitive against the bigger guys but you want him to stay away from them anyway. Shouldnt Floyd fans want to see him in the toughest winnable fights possible?

I see some of you bringing up Duran, but he was blowing up huge in between fights. Even without gorging himself, I'm sure he was walking around in the 170s before he fought Ray Leonard.

Ppl only want Floyd to fight at 160 cuz that his biggest chance of losing. Floyd is a natural WW, he is just filling out. He was smaller in the past but I think he is a good size WW now. People like ORTIZ and Thurman, those fools should be at 154.

I don't know anyone who said he's a beg WW, but if he wants to fight at 54 then he should fight the champs in that division. Have you applied that to all other fighters ?

I don't know anyone who said he's a beg WW, but if he wants to fight at 54 then he should fight the champs in that division.

hes about average id say, but he has a really long reach so that always helps.

He's a normal sized Welter now. When he came up from 140 one could make the argument, but he's not a "small" Welter today. Hes not a normal sized welter. He was 151 vs Ortiz's 164 and Ortiz only recently moved to welter. He doesnt LOOK small but weight wize he is. 151 by todays standers IS a small welter. Freakin broner weighed 150 his last fight for lightweight.

People keep saying in this thread that floyd should fight bigger fighters, but he HAS been doing that his entire career. He HAS been doing that in all of his recent fights. Out of his last 10 fights the only guy he outweighed was JMM. I am almost certain even hatton weighed more than him on fight night. Judah did (the weigh ins were done on that one).

He's a normal sized Welter now. When he came up from 140 one could make the argument, but he's not a "small" Welter today. His ring weights say different the weigh-in weights are very deceiving , its always been LWs come in around 147 , JWWs come in around 150-154 , WWs around 160 , JMW around 165-170 , MWs around 175 . Floyd is also not tall , many big WW are 6ft or more , and Floyd came from 130 , most big WWs start at 135-140 , Floyd is definitely on the smaller end of WW .

He is a small welter, that I will admit. But if he doesn't want to fight the likes of Canelo or Trout or even Martinez then he shouldn't campaign at Junior Middle. Pretty simple. But it would be ok if he demanded a CW that drained them right ?

Floyd Sr. told Fighthype.com “You know Floyd can still fight at 140 if he wanted to. He would be untouchable there.” ~ Oct 2012

Floyd is a big featherweight and a small light-heavyweight.

There comes a point when you have to know your limitations and going beyond them provides diminishing returns~ I would also say Floyd is at the end of his rope at 147, he may be able to pick his spots higher (which is what he has done) but he isn't the same fighter. I would say Floyd is in a much more precarious position given his age and inactivity, so a lot more guys than you think are serious threats to him. There will always be some new challenge out there though as boxing is very fluid~ Point well taken. Fortunately, we had p4p fighters who may not have made it to be the face of boxing/cash cow, but knew no limitations when it came to their legacies. Next time i debate with a delusional floydiot, (not you, much respect), i will point them to this post.

He's a normal sized Welter now. When he came up from 140 one could make the argument, but he's not a "small" Welter today.