Would you consider Floyd an ATG if he defeated Martinez at 160 to become MW champion?

Just like i said. That's the p4p ranking from September 21, 2009. Mosley fought Mayweather in May 2010 after 14 months without boxing. He wasn't a top 10 p4p at the time. http://www.examiner.com/article/boxing-pound-for-pound-for-may-2010-the-reshuffling-has-begun sorry it's true

If he went to 160 and took Sergio's lineal strap, it would give him claim to greatest of this era...as it stands now he, BHop, Roy, kinda Evander and obviously Manny all have good claims to higher rankings...that would elevate Floyd above them all easily IMO

I already consider Mayweather as one of the best boxing has ever seen. That being said, I also believe, to be as talented as he is, Floyd doesn't challenge himself like all-time greats in the past have (see Sugar Ray Robinson). For those who don't consider Floyd an ATG, would moving up in weight and defeating Sergio Martinez to become the middleweight champion of the world change your opinion? Where does Sergio fall if he beats Floyd at 160?

You need to realize you're wasting your time. This guy is a hater. He won't make sense with logical arguments cuz he's predisposed to anything coming from Pacquiao. That "hype job" gave us the fight of the year a few months ago. I agree. He even contradicts himself.

I think Floyd has already proven himself to be an ATG. He gets alot of unfair criticism. I don't think he will get props until he retires. People will always find someone he didn't or should have fought. When comes to his opponents he always fights fighters coming off great victories.

Floyd is already an ATG !!

http://www.pacquiaovideo.com/2009/09/ring-magazine-pound-for-pound-ranking.html the ring had him number 3 p4p4 Just like i said. That's the p4p ranking from September 21, 2009. Mosley fought Mayweather in May 2010 after 14 months without boxing. He wasn't a top 10 p4p at the time.

http://www.pacquiaovideo.com/2009/09/ring-magazine-pound-for-pound-ranking.html the ring had him number 3 p4p4 Just like i said. That's the p4p ranking from September 21, 2009. Mosley fought Mayweather in May 2010 after 14 months without boxing.

I already consider him an all time great that is well past his prime. I don't think he can beat Martinez at 154 or 160 but if he did it would not raise him up much higher than I already have him which is pretty high. At 36 years old I think Floyd will stay at welterweight and that would be wise.

Top WW, for sure. But Top 10 p4p i don't think so. He was ranked #3 in 2009, but due his 14 months without boxing, he was out. http://www.pacquiaovideo.com/2009/09/ring-magazine-pound-for-pound-ranking.html the ring had him number 3 p4p4

mosley was , now let's make up reasons why he shouldn't have been top 10. Top WW, for sure. But Top 10 p4p i don't think so. He was ranked #3 in 2009, but due his 14 months without boxing, he was out.

Speculations? lmao.. Ok, lets see. Did he fought Hatton @ his natural weight class ? Was Baldomir the biggest challenge at the time ? Was his victory against Ortiz a clean one ? Did he fought a prime Mosley ? How many excuses Floyd brought to the table to duck Manny ? Was Ortiz a top 10 p4p ? Mosley ? Guerrero ? That's all i need to know! Next! mosley was , now let's make up reasons why he shouldn't have been top 10.

Thing is your argument is speculation and hype , mine is hard coded fact and numbers , you boys lose reality because of hype , history doesnt . Speculations? lmao.. Ok, lets see. Did he fought Hatton @ his natural weight class ? Was Baldomir the biggest challenge at the time ? Was his victory against Ortiz a clean one ? Did he fought a prime Mosley ? How many excuses Floyd brought to the table to duck Manny ? Was Ortiz a top 10 p4p ? Mosley ? Guerrero ? That's all i need to know! Next!

haha.. Like facing Hatton @147 Ducking Margarito to fight Baldomir. Sucker Punching Ortiz. Ducking Mosley since 2000. Like ducking Pacquiao with the lamest excuses on earth. "Health first. Not interested about boxing. Vacations. No 50-50. No 55-45. No PPV revenue" Your arguments are a joke, just like you are. If he's just a hype job, Why does Mayweather brings all these excuses instead of fighting him and earn that "easy money". That's the question that fanboys like you have never been able to answer. He got his face planted cuz that's the risk you take when you face real opposition and top pound x pound fighters. :bs2: Thing is your argument is speculation and hype , mine is hard coded fact and numbers , you boys lose reality because of hype , history doesnt .

It was big due to who they were. Two great fighters. If one was a hype job, as you put it, it would NOT have great meaning, as again, you put it. Just like Frazier losing to Foreman by a thousand knock downs. That was huge for several reasons. Foreman toyed with someone that beat Ali. Secondly, it put more drama/shock into what was to follow ..... Ali beating Foreman. Did that make Frazier a hype job? Ali a hype job before he beat Foreman? Was Foreman a hype job? No, No and No!!! You need to realize you're wasting your time. This guy is a hater. He won't make sense with logical arguments cuz he's predisposed to anything coming from Pacquiao. That "hype job" gave us the fight of the year a few months ago.

Its not about the KO he had been stopped before , this one had great meaning when you look at the big picture . It was big due to who they were. Two great fighters. If one was a hype job, as you put it, it would NOT have great meaning, as again, you put it. Just like Frazier losing to Foreman by a thousand knock downs. That was huge for several reasons. Foreman toyed with someone that beat Ali. Secondly, it put more drama/shock into what was to follow ..... Ali beating Foreman. Did that make Frazier a hype job? Ali a hype job before he beat Foreman? Was Foreman a hype job? No, No and No!!!

I should elaborate I thought most knew , WW is where he is a fabricated hype job , you want to discuss it ? starting from where ? the ducking off Floyds 50/50 offer , the ducking of Mosley when in form at 143 , the ducking of Cotto WITHOUT a CW , the bribing officials to get Margo a licence and then CW him and put the sloth in 26 ft ring lol , man if you really look past the name value of his WW resume its a rort ! and hense my comment , he got face planted because thats the fate of rorters and hype not ATG WW fighters . haha.. Like facing Hatton @147 Ducking Margarito to fight Baldomir. Sucker Punching Ortiz. Ducking Mosley since 2000. Like ducking Pacquiao with the lamest excuses on earth. "Health first. Not interested about boxing. Vacations. No 50-50. No 55-45. No PPV revenue" Your arguments are a joke, just like you are. If he's just a hype job, Why does Mayweather brings all these excuses instead of fighting him and earn that "easy money". That's the question that fanboys like you have never been able to answer. He got his face planted cuz that's the risk you take when you face real opposition and top pound x pound fighters. :bs2:

:pat: You do realize that a lot of top quality fighters have gone down for the KO? Example: RJJ, Lennox Lewis, Frazier, Tyson, .... Its not about the KO he had been stopped before , this one had great meaning when you look at the big picture .

Hype job? Are you for real, you should be banned from boxing. That's like saying hearns was a hype job because he got KO'd by hagler. Or Joe fraizer is a hype job because he'd been ko'd. No logic at all, you sir are a moron. I should elaborate I thought most knew , WW is where he is a fabricated hype job , you want to discuss it ? starting from where ? the ducking off Floyds 50/50 offer , the ducking of Mosley when in form at 143 , the ducking of Cotto WITHOUT a CW , the bribing officials to get Margo a licence and then CW him and put the sloth in 26 ft ring lol , man if you really look past the name value of his WW resume its a rort ! and hense my comment , he got face planted because thats the fate of rorters and hype not ATG WW fighters .

Floyd is already a top 25 ATG. If he beats Martinez at 160 to become MW champion of the world he becomes top 10.