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Shane Mosley wins...this was prime Shane Mosley. We're talking 135 Marquez, the Marquez who fought a FOTY with Juan Diaz and took some punches against Katsidis. Mosley in 1994 at 22 years old was getting used by Julio Cesar Chavez to spar for Meldrick Taylor, footage shows a young, skinny, Shane Mosley getting the best of JCC with his handspeed.
If you want to get more detailed...prime Shane all the way to past prime late 2000s Shane would probably never lose to a guy of Marquez's style, especially not one who he's BIGGER than, much bigger. It's no secret that Mosley's greatest performances came against the best Mexican fighters he's faced, DLH in 2000, Vargas in 2006, Margarito in 2009. Marquez would just end up in that list, and I love JMM. Shane at 5' 9" with his power, speed and reach would beat Marquez at 135 all the way to 147. A bit off topic: Actually, I don't doubt for one second that the CURRENT retired Shane Mosley would all of a sudden look young again against JMM at 147.
Shane was a better fighter. point blank. I think if they fought tomorrow, shane would beat him.
I have Mosley by KO. Forgetting the KO JMM just got on Manny, he did have a tough time with Katsidis and Juan Diaz. Mosley at 135 was fast as sh*t and had power and wasn't a small Lightweight.
And not to mention, Shane was also a devastating body puncher at 135 too. Hypothetically speaking, Mosley would just simply overpower JMM at the weight class because he was an oversized lightweight with too much skill.
Only good answer in this thread. EPO Shane Mosley can rip through almost anyone, but without steroids he's garbage.
Shane looked better off epo. >__>... Unless we're speculating that it was in more than the one fight he came clean for..
Shane was bigger, faster, and stronger as a LW than piss drinker is
don't think Marquez would see the last bell
he doesn't have the jab to deal with Shane like others who beat him
rangy guys with inside strength gave Shane the business
can't see Marquez duplicating that
as a LW, Shane was just as good a combination puncher as Marquez
Shane might not blow him out but he'd stop him eventually
Marquez wouldn't be strong enough to hurt him
he was on EPO.......so all his wins are suspect
Only good answer in this thread. EPO Shane Mosley can rip through almost anyone, but without steroids he's garbage.
he was a "beast" because most of his title defenses and fights in that division were against unranked nobodies. Had he fought some top fighters at LW he wouldn't have looked that great.
No need to fantasize.
He did fight 1 top fighter, Philip Holiday, and he looked dead average.
I keep seeing "If Diaz rocked Marquez at Lightweight, what do you think Mosley would do?"
That's like saying "If Diaz rocked Marquez at Lightweight, what do you think Pacquaio at 147 will do?"
And how about "If Shane couldn't stop Holiday at 135 (The only top fighter he fought there and ranked in general) then how's he going to stop Marquez?"
Shane will catch him and hurt him, perhaps drop him but he's not going to stop him. And he get's throughly outboxed from then on.
jmm's best win at 135 was against diaz, and the guy wasn't really that good. mosley was a beast at 135. he would brutalize jmm into a tko
he was a "beast" because most of his title defenses and fights in that division were against unranked nobodies. Had he fought some top fighters at LW he wouldn't have looked that great.
Shane Mosley wins...this was prime Shane Mosley. We're talking 135 Marquez, the Marquez who fought a FOTY with Juan Diaz and took some punches against Katsidis. Mosley in 1994 at 22 years old was getting used by Julio Cesar Chavez to spar for Meldrick Taylor, footage shows a young, skinny, Shane Mosley getting the best of JCC with his handspeed.
If you want to get more detailed...prime Shane all the way to past prime late 2000s Shane would probably never lose to a guy of Marquez's style, especially not one who he's BIGGER than, much bigger. It's no secret that Mosley's greatest performances came against the best Mexican fighters he's faced, DLH in 2000, Vargas in 2006, Margarito in 2009. Marquez would just end up in that list, and I love JMM. Shane at 5' 9" with his power, speed and reach would beat Marquez at 135 all the way to 147. A bit off topic: Actually, I don't doubt for one second that the CURRENT retired Shane Mosley would all of a sudden look young again against JMM at 147.
probably go with mosley by UD...if they fought at welterweight and if marquez had heredia then i would pick marquez by KO...
Then make it fair and it's EPO Shane lol.
2001 147 Shane beats any version of Marquez imo.
Also...maybe it's just me but..I think Shane overplayed the Pac KD..I think he was looking for a way out..
Shane has taken insane punches throughout his career and kept going. Atg chin. I think the fight plays out similar to floyd vs jmm. Sure different styles but the size/speed/power would be too much in tandem with Shane's skill. JMM gets overwhelmed I feel. Marquez tends to get hurt by the left hook and Shane had a vicious one. Especially the lead left hook.
It's weird when people say jmm "would be stopped" or "will be stopped"...he's never been ko'd. Not saying it's impossible, but you guys who say that... Based on what? The dude always gets up, and always sets a trap.
exactly... hes been hit by bombs and still hasnt been koed
It's weird when people say jmm "would be stopped" or "will be stopped"...he's never been ko'd. Not saying it's impossible, but you guys who say that... Based on what? The dude always gets up, and always sets a trap.
i think they matchup well stylistically. a big puncher with fast hands vs a crafty vet in a 135 JMM. I think these fights would be close wars with mosley knocking down jmm but getting out boxed when he tries to finish him off.
He didn't look like a monster against Holiday, the only good Lightweight he fought.
He did look like a monster against unranked bums though which was 95% of his Lightweight reign.
This is true, but at lightweight JMM would probably be sparked out, at welterweight with the new Marquez body I think he could beat Mosley by decision with his crisp pounching. Pacman was able to drop Mosley at welter but he couldn't drop Marquez, so JMM's chin got much better and he got more muscle now.
Heck how about JMM fights Shane Mosley in a tune up? That would be a good fight now.
Shane was a very good LtWt because he had very good pop and he had size to minipulate his opponents. I think Shane was like 33-0 before he met Forest at 47 and then jumped right to 54 to earn against Winky. Those 4 fights that he lost were pretty incrediable boiuts to take on. The guy was a 35 pounder who fought a few welter bouts and then jumped in with worls class Forest & Winky! I think he beat Oscar in between at 54? Either way Shane to me is the most talented fighter in the 00 to 10 era. He could box he could bang he fought everyone from 35 to 54 and other the "way out of prime" years always handled himself well. Of his 7 or 8 losses I can't remember him ever being stopped! He just didn't skip over 35 as he grew he was their for a while! Ray
I like him over Juan by dcs.