..should his ranking and title be removed at 154?
If he has no plans on fighting anyone at 154, I think all traces of Mayweather should be removed there.
Sad thing is, if Mayweather was removed, a Trout-Canelo fight would be for the RING title..... even though Canelo hasn't fought anybody.
Would be interesting to see if Trout gets upgraded to Super champ, or if the WBA are actually serious about them dropping that stupid title, and keeping him as the WBA champ.
Your thoughts?
That's true, however Floyd's fight at 147 will not be sanctioned by the WBA, nor does it look likely that Floyd will be fighting at 154 any time soon, given he usually only fights once, maybe twice (if lucky, doubtful given his age) a year
In fact, the WBA would be making more money by vacating the belt, and letting another 154'er fight for it.
That's what they have Austin Trout for. The "regular" champion. lol
They'll continue to make money from Trout's fights as if he is the champion. Then next time Floyd defends his belt, they'll make that big cash.
**** like this is what's wrong with boxing right now.
Sanctioning fees are taken as a % of purse. Floyd Mayweather holding a belt is good for sanctioning bodies because they collect more money from Floyd than any other fighter. And that is by an extremely wide margin.
It's not fair, but when you have a guy that makes substantially more money than any other fighter in the sport, this is what you get. Cash cows play by different rules than the rest of the field.
That's true, however Floyd's fight at 147 will not be sanctioned by the WBA, nor does it look likely that Floyd will be fighting at 154 any time soon, given he usually only fights once, maybe twice (if lucky, doubtful given his age) a year
In fact, the WBA would be making more money by vacating the belt, and letting another 154'er fight for it.
Sanctioning fees are taken as a % of purse. Floyd Mayweather holding a belt is good for sanctioning bodies because they collect more money from Floyd than any other fighter. And that is by an extremely wide margin.
It's not fair, but when you have a guy that makes substantially more money than any other fighter in the sport, this is what you get. Cash cows play by different rules than the rest of the field.
Some food for thought:
Quoted from the WBA Regulations
Unless otherwise directed by the Championship Committee, a boxer who obtains a title by defeating a champion must defend his title as follows:
a. Non-Heavyweight Division: If the Official Contender, within nine (9) months from the date the title was obtained; if not the Official Contender, within one hundred twenty (120) days.
A boxer’s title, status, or recognition may be lost, removed, or vacated for any of the following reasons:
a. Loss in a bout (see Rule C.15);
b. Violation of Association rules; or
c. Suspension, charges, or criminal conduct alleged or found by a national,
state, or provincial agency.
He has 18 months..meaning till nov this yearUnless a champion has an injury defending your tittle once every 18 month is just wrong. If the WBA says you only need to defend your tittle once every 18 months then they should change that rule to once every 9 months or a year at the most.
Floyds resume at 154 with only 2 fights is better then any one elses there
Floyd can only fight 1 fight at a time..he has to fight at ww first then i cant see his next fight not being canelo..and to be honest i think that will be itI don't think he will ever fight Canelo. Time will tell.
Floyds resume at 154 with only 2 fights is better then any one elses thereYou are putting his win over De La Hoya many years ago together with the Cotto win to say Floyd is the man at 154. You are very devoted to Floyd and defend him to the death. He should pay you a weekly salary.
not crying about it, its just my opinion. if you want to act like a prick then talk to somebody else.
Ignore that guy, (if it's even a guy). I think he's like 12 or something.
everything is about making money. Money rules. Mayweather makes alot of people alot of money. Its the american way. So get out of here you crybaby.
not crying about it, its just my opinion. if you want to act like a prick then talk to somebody else.
Floyd can only fight 1 fight at a time..he has to fight at ww first then i cant see his next fight not being canelo..and to be honest i think that will be it
I don't think so. Its seems at least close to a done deal that Mayweather will fight Alvarez this year at some point. If he doesn't, then he should be removed.
Yes Floyd should be dropped from the 154 rankings. According to his fanbase, he only fights there when there's an easy marketable win to be had. He doesn't go after the best at the weight. So why should he be called the best when he only shows up to collect an easy belt from a crap champ??
This does not mean I have a problem with his Cotto win. It was a smart business move & a very credible victory. Cotto came to fight & proved he had some miles left in the tank. All I'm saying is if Floyd decides to fight at 154 again, it needs to be the best fighter there, not some golden boy hype job.
Floyds resume at 154 with only 2 fights is better then any one elses there
Yes Floyd should be dropped from the 154 rankings. According to his fanbase, he only fights there when there's an easy marketable win to be had. He doesn't go after the best at the weight. So why should he be called the best when he only shows up to collect an easy belt from a crap champ??
This does not mean I have a problem with his Cotto win. It was a smart business move & a very credible victory. Cotto came to fight & proved he had some miles left in the tank. All I'm saying is if Floyd decides to fight at 154 again, it needs to be the best fighter there, not some golden boy hype job.
If he does not fight Guerrero he should lose his WBC 147 pound tittle because he has already kept him waiting long enough. Unless he declared his intention to defend his WBA 154 tittle soon he should lose that tittle too. You should not be champion if you won't defend your tittle more than once every two years or so. I see nothing wrong with Canelo fighting Trout for the ring 154 pound tittle.They are probably the two best and deserve to be rated at the top as much as any other 154 pound fighter. Would you rather see Molina vs.Lara for the ring tittle? Trout really did nothing special at 154. Yes, he beat Cotto at that weight but who did Cotto beat at 154 to be so highly regarded. There is no fighter that has really done much at 154 to really stand out as the clear #1. Canelo has done as much as any of the other 154 pounders which is not much. He is ranked in the top 3 by almost all ranking bodies.
Ever since the ring changed their rules, you don't have to have 1 vs 2 anymore for the ring belt. I'm not sure exactly what the guidelines are, but i think a 1 vs 3, or 2 vs 3 or even 1 vs 4 will suffice...
*EDIT: CHAMPIONSHIP POLICY - Championship vacancies can be filled in the following two ways: 1. THE RING’s Nos. 1 and 2 contenders fight one another. 2. If the Nos. 1 and 2 contenders chose not to fight one another and either of them fights No. 3, No. 4 or No. 5, the winner may be awarded THE RING belt if the Editorial Board deems the contenders worthy
it's actually his 147 title and ranking that should be removed
it's been well over a yr since he fought Ortiz
and he served time
under WBC rules, he shoulda been stripped of their title
he just pays them so much Sulaiman won't do it
he'd technically have a yr before his JMW ranking should be sacked
don't know just how long super champs get to face regular champs
based on the Wlad-Povetkin thing, think it's about 18 months or so